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I can tell you Op2 that Revelation can be tested against actual history. Know what?

It's 100% accurate. John has been spot on in every prediction made. The prophecies in the Old Testament were also all 100% accurate and fulfilled with 100% precision through Christ.

I've examined the claims in the Qu'ran, and it's reliability does not hold up to the Bible's historical accuracy. For instance, Israel is not supposed to exist in the Qu'ran. However in Revelation, it was predicted to come out of nowhere toward the end or latter days.

Look a what we have in Israel today, and where it came from after thousands of years. I could go one but to answer your question, yes you are correct...all claims should be tested however not all claims can be true since Truth is not relative.

If you take the time to examine it's claims, I think you will find the Bible's claims to be 100% correct 100% of the time.

Okay, so you claim the Bible is right and the Qu'ran is wrong and Muslims claim the Qu'ran is right and the Bible is wrong. And I don't see evidence that either is right. Fine.
 

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True, so explain the positive results at least while the jury deliberates on the ongoing experiments. All the inner city Government schools have failed.

Why?
You'd have to ask an urban public educator. I'm a fish doctor.
 

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Okay, so you claim the Bible is right and the Qu'ran is wrong and Muslims claim the Qu'ran is right and the Bible is wrong. And I don't see evidence that either is right. Fine.

Nope, reading comprehension issues again Op2. I said the Bible's claims can be tested against history...and when it's measured against what's actually happened as it was predicted, it has proven to be 100% reliable.

The Qu'ran cannot make that same claim. It too has prophecy, but it's claims do not stand up to historical accuracy as the Bible's does.

Big difference. Muslims still do believe (you are correct) that the Prophet Muhammad is correct...infallible in fact. However Muhammad teaches that the land of Judea (Sumaria) will be inhabited by Islam...in fact he says it can't be any other way and never would be!

Well, he is wrong right there, because the Bible says that land (Palestine) would be inhabited by God's chosen people (Jews) who would live in a land called Israel where they are today.

In fact, the Bible says that land once finally occupied by Almighty God's chosen people would remain inhabited by them until Christ returns--and that the World would come to a great War over that to try and prevent it.

We are very near to seeing that prediction fulfilled too Op2.
 

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You'd have to ask an urban public educator. I'm a fish doctor.

OK...I didn't think you had a "chart" to explain it like you so readily whip out the one to explain man made "global warming".

Thanks for trying to explain it anyway, most of your friends on the Left just go away when I ask that question because they don't have an answer either.
 

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Did they get that sample from Nancy Pelosi? Good Lawd she looks like skeletor with a wig.
 

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Nope, reading comprehension issues again Op2. I said the Bible's claims can be tested against history...and when it's measured against what's actually happened as it was predicted, it has proven to be 100% reliable.

The Qu'ran cannot make that same claim. It too has prophecy, but it's claims do not stand up to historical accuracy as the Bible's does.

Big difference. Muslims still do believe (you are correct) that the Prophet Muhammad is correct...infallible in fact. However Muhammad teaches that the land of Judea (Sumaria) will be inhabited by Islam...in fact he says it can't be any other way and never would be!

Well, he is wrong right there, because the Bible says that land (Palestine) would be inhabited by God's chosen people (Jews) who would live in a land called Israel where they are today.

In fact, the Bible says that land once finally occupied by Almighty God's chosen people would remain inhabited by them until Christ returns--and that the World would come to a great War over that to try and prevent it.

We are very near to seeing that prediction fulfilled too Op2.

Oh, okay, so the end is nigh? Again? The end has been nigh for a couple thousand years now. Funny how that works.
 

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Oh, okay, so the end is nigh? Again? The end has been nigh for a couple thousand years now. Funny how that works.

Reading comprehension issues again Op2. I didn't say the end is nigh. I did say that Relevlation predicted that towards the latter days, Israel would be inhabited by Almighty God's chosen people. (it is, so that part is true)

So I said we're close, because the Bible did say this would happen towards the "latter days" when knowledge would explode (it has)...we've learned more in the last 50 years (since Israel's return to existence in 1948) than we have in the last 2000!

So all of that is true.

However I did NOT say the World is about to end. We are near it...but so is the WVU Basketball team near winning an NCAA Championship. I don't know when that will happen, but I sure hope it does before the World is finished.

I can see the conditions Revelation has predicted as a precursor to the end. Cashless society, incredible technological advancement, lovers of hate calling good evil, incredible human arrogance, World about to throw down over Israel, etc...but I can't say when our time is up.

I just know we're a lot closer now than we've ever been in human history, which really isn't all that long anyway.
 

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Reading comprehension issues again Op2. I didn't say the end is nigh. I did say that Relevlation predicted that towards the latter days, Israel would be inhabited by Almighty God's chosen people. (it is, so that part is true)

So I said we're close, because the Bible did say this would happen towards the "latter days" when knowledge would explode (it has)...we've learned more in the last 50 years (since Israel's return to existence in 1948) than we have in the last 2000!

So all of that is true.

However I did NOT say the World is about to end. We are near it...but so is the WVU Basketball team near winning an NCAA Championship. I don't know when that will happen, but I sure hope it does before the World is finished.

I can see the conditions Revelation has predicted as a precursor to the end. Cashless society, incredible technological advancement, lovers of hate calling good evil, incredible human arrogance, World about to throw down over Israel, etc...but I can't say when our time is up.

I just know we're a lot closer now than we've ever been in human history, which really isn't all that long anyway.

The world isn't going to end. It's just going to keep getting better and better and better while people like you just complain more and more and more.
 

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The world isn't going to end. It's just going to keep getting better and better and better while people like you just complain more and more and more.

OK Op2, now who's acting like they "have it all figured out"? I can tell you that as far as the Left is concerned, your prediction is false.

They certainly think we're heading back to Medevil times, and they're certainly not thrilled with their recent political fortunes given their hysteria and fear mongering over Trump's effort to restore some fiscal sanity to Government, and allow Americans more Freedoms from it.
 

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So the Left thinks the world is going to end because humans are causing the apocolypse and the right thinks it's going to end because God is coming back. They're both equally nutty. The world ain't goin' nowhere, except round and round the sun.
 

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So the Left thinks the world is going to end because humans are causing the apocolypse and the right thinks it's going to end because God is coming back. They're both equally nutty. The world ain't goin' nowhere, except round and round the sun.

Currently this is true Op2, but it's not a static situation.

If I had to predict the likelihood of each of your scenarios, I'd say there is much greater chance of Christ's return than Humans being able to remove the Earth off it orbital axis around the Sun by suddenly destroying the planet.

I'd put my money on Christ's return in that bet.
 

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Currently this is true Op2, but it's not a static situation.

If I had to predict the likelihood of each of your scenarios, I'd say there is much greater chance of Christ's return than Human's being able to remove the Earth off it orbital axis around the Sun by suddenly destroying the planet.

I'd put my money on Christ's return in that bet.

And what would you say to the millions of people throughout history, 10, 100, 1000 years ago who said the same thing, namely Jesus is returning soon? Can't you consider the possibility that we're here and we have to take responsibility for ourselves?
 

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And what would you say to the millions of people throughout history, 10, 100, 1000 years ago who said the same thing, namely Jesus is returning soon? Can't you consider the possibility that we're here and we have to take responsibility for ourselves?

Of course I do Op2! We're absolutely responsible for the current condition we find ourselves in...in fact we have no one else to blame but ourselves. We all have to accept that responsibility, you are 100% correct.

What I'd say about folks who lived hundreds and a couple thousand years before us is they were/are being held responsible too. Christ did die for all Sin, but those who came before him weren't covered by his shed Blood. However they are not without blame.

Almighty God explains to us how their Sins will be dealt with but if you don't believe any of it there is no sense in my trying to explain it to you. Just understand, they will be held accountable even though they died in Sin without Christ's forgiveness.

I'm confident that a God of ultimate Justice will treat them fairly and judge them accordingly. The real question Op2 is how will YOU be judged knowing all you do now, and having the full advantages of Christ's free gift of Salvation for your Sin that those folks you're asking me about didn't have?

I wouldn't worry as much about them if I were you my friend, you're in a much better spot.
 
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Of course I do Op2! We're absolutely responsible for the current condition we find ourselves in...in fact we have no one else to blame but ourselves. We all have to accept that responsibility, you are 100% correct.

What I'd say about folks who lived hundreds and a couple thousand years before us is they were/are being held responsible too. Christ did for all Sin, but those who came before him weren't covered by his shed Blood. However they are not without blame.

Almighty God explains to us how their Sins will be dealt with but if you don't believe any of it there is no sense in my trying to explain it to you. Just understand, they will be held accountable even though they died in Sin without Christ's forgiveness.

I'm confident that a God of ultimate Justice will treat them fairly and judge them accordingly. The real question Op2 is how will YOU be judged knowing all you do now, and having the full advantages of Christ's free gift of Salvation for your Sin that those folks you're asking me about didn't have?

I wouldn't worry as much about them if I were you my friend, you're in a much better spot.

You missed the point. You're saying "The end is coming soon." So did people 1,000 years ago. So will people 1,000 years from now. Everybody always says it and they're always wrong.

As far as the condition we're in, we're in pretty great condition and getting better I'd say. No problem with that. And I try to live a good life and if there's a God that can do with me whatever It likes then it will. I have no reason to believe I'd have a worse fate than you on that account.
 

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You missed the point. You're saying "The end is coming soon." So did people 1,000 years ago. So will people 1,000 years from now. Everybody always says it and they're always wrong.

As far as the condition we're in, we're in pretty great condition and getting better I'd say. No problem with that. And I try to live a good life and if there's a God that can do with me whatever It likes then it will. I have no reason to believe I'd have a worse fate than you on that account.

I'm not condemning you Op2, I believe in freedom...live your Life as you see fit. I'll answer your question about the people 1,000 years ago who believed the end was near with them by quoting a little Biblical Scripture if you don't mind?

2 Peter 3:8 reads:

‘But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.’

Hope that explains it as best you may be able to understand being a non believer.