SEC basketball records the last 10 years....

[Coach34]

1. Kentucky- 115-45
2. Florida- 108-52
3. Tennessee- 97-63
4. State- 87-73
5. Bammer- 81- 79

6. LSU- 77-83
7. UPig- 72-88
8. Vandy- 69-91
9. Aub- 66-94
10. Georgia- 65-95
11. Mississippi- 65-95
12. SC- 55-105

We are the 4th best team in the SEC the last 10 years, not 3rd as many of you like to spout. Also, you see by records how winning the West isnt that big of a deal- only one other team in the West even has a winning record the last 10 years and they barely made that. The West hasnt had a winning record vs the East since 1999.
Winning the West means 4th place in the East
You also have to feel sorry for SC, Vandy, and Georgia- they have to play the Big 3 twice a year, not once like the West does

 

[Coach34]

1. Kentucky- 115-45
2. Florida- 108-52
3. Tennessee- 97-63
4. State- 87-73
5. Bammer- 81- 79

6. LSU- 77-83
7. UPig- 72-88
8. Vandy- 69-91
9. Aub- 66-94
10. Georgia- 65-95
11. Mississippi- 65-95
12. SC- 55-105

We are the 4th best team in the SEC the last 10 years, not 3rd as many of you like to spout. Also, you see by records how winning the West isnt that big of a deal- only one other team in the West even has a winning record the last 10 years and they barely made that. The West hasnt had a winning record vs the East since 1999.
Winning the West means 4th place in the East
You also have to feel sorry for SC, Vandy, and Georgia- they have to play the Big 3 twice a year, not once like the West does

 

[merkin2]

That is interesting bit of facts. I believe I have heard Stans himself champion we are 3rd in SEC wins behind Kentucky & Fla. ( 10 yr. period )

 

[Stormrider81]

I can't for the life of me understand why you insist on writing off the West titles. No, the West hasn't been great lately, but I have a few points to make there:
- You used to tout two coaches in this division to be better than Stans but neither have 4 West titles, and one lost his job
- In 2004 we won the whole conference and defeated 2 of the 3 best East teams so I feel confident we would have won that division
- We are in the West so why are we even discussing the East?
- Your hatred of all things Stansbury seems to be reaching an unhealthy level

I noticed that you earlier stated we could easily find a coach that could match Stansbury's performance. Would you mind compiling a list? I'm curious as to who you think we can land that would be better than Rick.</p>

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Is this counting the SEC tourney? Richard Williams had a notorious habit of conveniently leaving out the tourney games and last I checked, they count too.</p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

that's kind of sad

 

[Bdog9090]

<table class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;"> <tbody> <tr> <th>Season</th> <th>Team</th> <th>Overall</th> <th>Conference</th> <th>Standing</th> <th>Postseason</th> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); background: rgb(221, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" colspan="9" align="center">Mississippi State (Southeastern Conference) (1998-present)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1998-1999</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>20-13</td> <td>8-8</td> <td>T-3rd (West)</td> <td>NIT 1st Round</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1999-2000</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>14-16</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>T-5th (West)</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2000-2001</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>18-13</td> <td>7-9</td> <td>T-4th (West)</td> <td>NIT Quarterfinals</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(255, 255, 153) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td>2001-2002</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>27-8</td> <td>10-6</td> <td>2nd (West)</td> <td>NCAA 2nd Round</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(187, 255, 255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td>2002-2003</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>21-10</td> <td>9-7</td> <td>1st (West)</td> <td>NCAA 1st Round</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(255, 221, 153) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td>2003-2004</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>26-4</td> <td>14-2</td> <td>1st (SEC)</td> <td>NCAA 2nd Round</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2004-2005</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>23-11</td> <td>9-7</td> <td>3rd (West)</td> <td>NCAA 2nd Round</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2005-2006</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>15-15</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>5th (West)</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(187, 255, 255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td>2006-2007</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>21-14</td> <td>8-8</td> <td>T-1st (West)</td> <td>NIT Final Four</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(187, 255, 255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td>2007-2008</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>23-11</td> <td>12-4</td> <td>1st (West)</td> <td>NCAA 2nd Round</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2008-2009</td> <td>Mississippi State</td> <td>5-2</td> <td>0-0</td> <td>Season in Progress</td> <td>Season in Progress</td> </tr> <tr style="border-top: 2px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); background: rgb(250, 250, 250) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td colspan="2" align="center">Mississippi State:</td> <td>212-115</td> <td>87-73</td> <td colspan="5">
</td> </tr> <tr style="background: rgb(221, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center;">Total:</td> <td>212-115</td> <td colspan="7">
</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

 

[Fletch Fletcher]

We are the 4th best team in the SEC the last 10 years, not 3rd as many of you like to spout.

What are the conference records during that time? I believe when Stans talks about this, he says we are only behind UK and UF in conference wins during that time.

 

[Coach34]

We are the 4th best team in the SEC the last 10 years, not 3rd as many of you like to spout.

What are the conference records during that time? I believe when Stans talks about this, he says we are only behind UK and UF in conference wins during that time.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...I hope you realize when you list MSU as 4th in SEC wins over a 10 year period, it does not support your arguement to fire Stansbury.

In fact, it does the opposite.

If you are going to bring the stats that downplay Stansbury, then don't list the fact he is 4th in wins in the SEC over the last 10 years.

Put it this way: Over the last 10 years, where do you think MSU football & baseball ranks as compared to the rests of the SEC?

Answer: A long way from 4th.

 

[Coach34]

that winning the West is pretty overblown and not that big of an accomplishment...Basketball and Baseball are about conference championships- not division...finishing 7th in the conference can get you in the postseason, so winning a division isnt that big of a deal

 

[MSUCostanza]

where I asked him that last week, and he said he would give us a list in March of 2010 when we're actively looking for a replacement.

KB34, you are a goddamn moron.

 

[MSUCostanza]

who you constantly say are superior to Stansbury simply based on tournament runs, have far worse SEC records than the terrible Stansbury? Yeah, way to make your point, KB.

 

[TBonewannabe]

I know football we would be glad to win the SEC overall and SEC Championship. And would be happy to win the West but that is more significant in football.

We were 4th behind UK (one of the top programs Alltime in Bball), UF (several national titles in last few years), and UT who reached the elite eight? for the first time ever in their program's history last year. We were ahead of LSU who has alot more tradition in bball, Alabama who has a coach that was better than Stans a few years ago. Vandy is traditionally good and has alot of tourney experience.

So please list your expectations so we can hold Stans accountable. I know if my boss said I wasn't meeting expectations, I would ask what those were. I would hate to be like Auburn and fire TT because he only went to a few BCS games and then get Chiznik who just had the worst team in the Big 12.</p>

 

[Coach34]

who you constantly say are superior to Stansbury simply based on tournament runs, have far worse SEC records than the terrible Stansbury? Yeah, way to make your point, KB.

Elite Eight > SEC West title
Final Four > SEC West title

Say what you want, but they have something Stansbury never will

 

[GBryne4Heisman]

not win the West than win it periodically?

Sure State probably has underachieved in the Tournament some, but whatever. For some reason I'd guess if State had made a sweet 16, then your argument would change to 'Only 1 Sweet 16 in 10 years is unacceptable!!'

My stance is as long as your hanging banners and putting dates on the ones up, I don't care beyond that.

 

[Coach34]

1. Win an SEC title once every 5 years
2. Make the NCAA Tourney 3 out of every 5 years
3. Advance to a Sweet 16 once every 5 years

For the "4th best program" the last 10 years, those arent unrealistic expectations.
We are about to be 1 for our last 4 come March, with no SEC titles and no Sweet 16's

 

[Coach34]

is seed you for the SEC Tourney and a possible berth to the NCAA Tourney. 3rd place in the West can get you into the NCAA Tourney just like 1st can.

1st in the SEC West got us a 9th seed in the NCAA Tourney, thats how important an SEC West title is.

 

[sparky36]

is seed you for the SEC Tourney and a possible berth to the NCAA Tourney. 3rd place in the West can get you into the NCAA Tourney just like 1st can.

1st in the SEC West got us a 9th seed in the NCAA Tourney, thats how important an SEC West title is.

Considering only 2 SEC West teams - MSU and Arkansas - got into the NCAA Tournament last year, this kind of contradicts itself.

 

[TBonewannabe]

He made the sweet sixteen in 2000. He didn't make it again till 2006. No SEC titles to speak of. So he made one goal of yours.

 

[Coach34]

which is more than Ricky can say...making one gets you a little leeway...How many NCAA appearances did he have from 2001-2005?

 

[wpnetdawg]

having made a Sweet Sixteen before.

So had we won any one of the following games - Texas, Xavier, Memphis, or Duke - Stansbury would get a lifetime pass from you. Arbitrarily picking one of these games outweigh four seasons in which we won a division title over a 16-game schedule. Seriously?

 

[Keyser Soze.sixpack]

nm

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and have three west titles (four if you go back to 97, and '07 split with the dogs)

so as bad as we are, we even have 3 west titles, and a trip to the sweet 16 in that span.

 

[Nicky Santoro]

I can only you hope you spend tomorrow alone at home wondering what your life has become. You are a sad, sad little man.

 

[Coach34]

having made a Sweet Sixteen before.

So had we won any one of the following games - Texas, Xavier, Memphis, or Duke - Stansbury would get a lifetime pass from you. Arbitrarily picking one of these games outweigh four seasons in which we won a division title over a 16-game schedule. Seriously?

have given us an NIT bid and a 9 seed in the NCAA Tourney. While important to you, it doesnt appear this feat carries alot of weight in the college basketball world

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

that time frame?

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[wpnetdawg]

nm

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

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[wpnetdawg]

That was in response to Vanderbilt's record.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

and use Ole Miss' record/results (22 less wins and 1 Sweet Sixteen) then I can't imagine how he'd trade with Vandy but not Ole Miss.

But, I'm sure he would try to argue that he draws the line at 21 less wins and 1 more Sweet Sixteen. Crossing that would be crazy!

 

[Coach34]

1 Sweet 16 = 2 West titles

Cant really say I'd trade with Mississippi, but making 2 Sweet 16's for 20 less conference wins is a no-brainer....would trade as fast as I could before they changed their mind.</p>

aGAIN- when our last 2 West titles have gotten us an NIT bid and a 9 seed, its obvious they really dont mean ****...It means we play in a very weak side of the conference. There is a reason we lead the West in wins the last 10 years but are 4th overall- we feast on the worst teams in the conference, getting two games with each</p>

 

[LR1400]

1. Kentucky- 115-45
2. Florida- 108-52
3. Tennessee- 97-63
4. State- 87-73
5. Bammer- 81- 79

6. LSU- 77-83
7. UPig- 72-88
8. Vandy- 69-91
9. Aub- 66-94
10. Georgia- 65-95
11. Mississippi- 65-95
12. SC- 55-105

We are the 4th best team in the SEC the last 10 years, not 3rd as many of you like to spout. Also, you see by records how winning the West isnt that big of a deal- only one other team in the West even has a winning record the last 10 years and they barely made that. The West hasnt had a winning record vs the East since 1999.
Winning the West means 4th place in the East
You also have to feel sorry for SC, Vandy, and Georgia- they have to play the Big 3 twice a year, not once like the West does

That is fine to say we are 4th best in the East and FIRST in the West. The West is weaker, etc.

Here is the deal......Who are you going to get that is going to do better...? Who can we hire that we can feel very sure that they can get us to 1st in the East level? I am not confident we can get that hire. I see it as a Tuberville move were we to fire him this year or next. We can damn sure do a lot worse.

And before you go saying I have a loser's mentality know that I grew up during the JWS years, Richard Williams years, and grew up as a Bama football fan so I EXPECT us to win.

In my opinion you showed concrete evidence that Stans should be given some credit for what he has done and should be given some leeway, at least more than most fans will give him.

In my opinion a lot of our lack of every year success has to do with a former AD not emphaszing and not helping to push our basketbal team. The fact our players have to request time at the Hump and reserve courts at the Sanderson to play in the off season is absolutely ridiculous and shows we are doing better than many would expect.

I have agreed with you on Croom from the Maine game on for the most part but Stans is not Croom.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

That alone trumps Stans accomplishments. I'm sure Georgia State wouldn't require any kind of buyout at this point.</p>

 

[bullysleftnut]

1 Sweet 16 = 2 West titles

By your math Rick Stansbury's been to 2 Sweet Sixteens. So what are you complaining about?

 

[Todd4State]

pissed off that we're beating the "weak" teams in the conference? Isn't that what we're "supposed" to do? All I know is that I'm happy beating the people in our conference regularly and we're beating a lot of East teams pretty regularly to- including people like UK and UF.

I don't see a tangible, sane reason to fire Stansbury. Honestly, if Byrne fired him tommorrow, I wouldn't support that, and I would want an explanation- which better be something along the lines of doing something that Kennedy did. He's had, what? one losing season in his whole career- and that was his second year. And he wins 20 games most years. A "down" year for his teams are 18. Plus, his teams always have gotten better as the season has gone along. Even if this years team doesn't get better, it would be the first time in a while.

He's no John Wooden, but overall he's a darn good coach. If he was at UK, I have no doubt that they would be winning SEC Championships and doing well in the tournament every year.

Doesn't the fact that no one agrees with you tell you something? Doesn't the fact that you have to dig up some obscure stat like "Ricky has a losing record on Dec. 5" tell you anything? There is no way you can twist it, Stansbury has done a good job and doesn't deserve to be fired. Hell, if any of our coaches SHOULD get a pass it's Stansbury for having to put up with LT giving him the shaft all these years. LT wouldn't even give him video equipment, much less a practice facility. And you talk about expectations, I would say Stansbury has raised them since he has been there. LT told him to basically make the NIT once every three years or so and everyone would love him. Well, now we all pretty much expect to make the big Dance every year, and that's because of Stansbury.

 

[BlindDawg]

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[Henry Kissinger]

26-32 for regular season

31-39 including sec tournament

Against:

Kentucky 2-8
Florida 4-6
Tennessee 3-7
Georgia 5-5
Vanderbilt 7-3
SC 6-4

 

[wpnetdawg]

The real irony in that is that Stansbury's winning pct. is better against the East than Kevin Stallings winning pct. is against the east and the west.