SEC Coming Off as Weak in Big 12 Mess?
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This guy is just being a whiny reporter that is pissed because the situation hasn't resolved itself yet and A&M's/Big12's future is still in limbo.
Why would the SEC be aggressive here? What good can come from it by rocking the boat even more? Let the Big 12 play their hand and the SEC will go from there. It really comes down to what OU and Texas decide. If OU/UT bail for the Pac-whatever, the conference is going to naturally dissolve. Baylor isn't going to sue every conference that takes former Big 12 members. If OU/UT stay, the conference will likely stay in tact without A&M and Baylor will shuts its trap. Slive is actually playing this smart and letting the other party show its hand first.
Why would the SEC be aggressive here? What good can come from it by rocking the boat even more? Let the Big 12 play their hand and the SEC will go from there. It really comes down to what OU and Texas decide. If OU/UT bail for the Pac-whatever, the conference is going to naturally dissolve. Baylor isn't going to sue every conference that takes former Big 12 members. If OU/UT stay, the conference will likely stay in tact without A&M and Baylor will shuts its trap. Slive is actually playing this smart and letting the other party show its hand first.
Texas A & M would be a great add to the SEC if we could pick up a quality school for the East. That does not
look likely which means we have to probably pick up a second Big 12 school. That now 17's up the SEC and
requires a complete make over. Baylor Law doesn't have crap to do with it, Baylor to Conf USA does. I like the Red Raiders but TT is a snake...
look likely which means we have to probably pick up a second Big 12 school. That now 17's up the SEC and
requires a complete make over. Baylor Law doesn't have crap to do with it, Baylor to Conf USA does. I like the Red Raiders but TT is a snake...
I agree with the author to a point. If the SEC wanted to be patient and let things play out, then they would have done nothing at all. Instead, they made this conditional offer -- they voted to let A&M in provided they can get waivers from everyone -- and that did, in fact, rock the boat.
The SEC is NOT being patient, but instead has taken action. In making the offer conditional, though, they appear to have given all the power to Baylor. I agree it looks weak, and I still cannot figure out why the SEC is so worried about litigation. This wasn't an issue in 1990, and it wasn't an issue last year when the B1G and PAC-# expanded. In the long run, though, the SEC is still holding all the cards.
The SEC is NOT being patient, but instead has taken action. In making the offer conditional, though, they appear to have given all the power to Baylor. I agree it looks weak, and I still cannot figure out why the SEC is so worried about litigation. This wasn't an issue in 1990, and it wasn't an issue last year when the B1G and PAC-# expanded. In the long run, though, the SEC is still holding all the cards.
and everyone wants your seat. I hope the expansion doesn't work, I don't care about more $ or larger TV audience ... why should I as a fan care if my school makes a little more $ ??? We (SEC) don't need to add anyone to "up-grade" our image or perception from the rest of the country.... and these guys from aTm really think very highly of themselves when their last 4 games against SEC opponents = 4 losses
Dawgzilla said:
coming from Baylor. As long as it is just Baylor. Since the SEC got information that Baylor balked at the 11th hour, they then wanted every Big12 school to reaffirm that they would not sue.
I wouldn't think the SEC is worried about fighting just Baylor in court (if it even comes to that) but if they have to take on half the Big12 then it becomes a bigger problem. If they can get all but one or two schools to promise they will not sue, then expect the SEC to accept Texas A&M and start calling bluffs.
The SEC doesn't have to rush anything. A&M said they were out of Big12. We invited them - apparently with some stipulations. Conferencegeddon has not started yet. The SEC isn't as risk of imploding and there's obviously a quality program that wants in. We are simply slow playing it to make sure none of this backfires. That's the right call.
If you go back to your college days, pretty much everyone has a story to tell about some coed that they met at a bar and things were going really well. You've convinced yourself that she's been eying you all night and after you finally get drunk enough to grow a pair and go hit on her, you can hardly believe how receptive she is when you ask her to play a game of pool. Your head starts to swell as the night goes on and the drinks keep coming, but at some point during your one and a half hour game of eight ball, you notice a random dude in the corner of the room that looks like he'd like to take the cue that he's holding and shove it down your throat. You ignore him for awhile, but even though you don't have the coordination to remember whether you're stripes or solids for more than about 15 seconds, you're pretty sure that the guy wants to beat your ***.
Now, this is the point where everyone has their own middle and ending to what normally turns out to be a highly memorable night, but the common denominator for all of them is that it's the standard case of screwing with a guy's woman when you thought that everything that you were doing was kosher. Furthermore, the other common theme is that these nights never, EVER, end well. I cannot stress enough how much I believe that no coed in the world is hot enough to deal with a situation like this, and the best thing to do is to just step away either go hit the Wendy's 99 cent menu or start dialing your late night call if you're so lucky.
So all that was to say this... I think the SEC is obviously highly interested in A&M. I think the Aggies would love to come over to what I consider to be the most powerful conference in the land. However, there's an angry ex that's sitting in the corner, and I think the SEC would rather let A&M take its time and get its **** straight rather than trying to push this thing while Slive is constantly having to look over his shoulder. It's just not worth it, and there's really no reason that I can think of to rush it. Just my opinion...
Now, this is the point where everyone has their own middle and ending to what normally turns out to be a highly memorable night, but the common denominator for all of them is that it's the standard case of screwing with a guy's woman when you thought that everything that you were doing was kosher. Furthermore, the other common theme is that these nights never, EVER, end well. I cannot stress enough how much I believe that no coed in the world is hot enough to deal with a situation like this, and the best thing to do is to just step away either go hit the Wendy's 99 cent menu or start dialing your late night call if you're so lucky.
So all that was to say this... I think the SEC is obviously highly interested in A&M. I think the Aggies would love to come over to what I consider to be the most powerful conference in the land. However, there's an angry ex that's sitting in the corner, and I think the SEC would rather let A&M take its time and get its **** straight rather than trying to push this thing while Slive is constantly having to look over his shoulder. It's just not worth it, and there's really no reason that I can think of to rush it. Just my opinion...
I keep hearing that, but the SEC made a conditional offer to A$M. Slow playing would have been to "check" and do nothing. Instead, the SEC put the Big IX schools into a position of having to waive their legal rights. This allows Baylor to put a crimp in the whole thing by doing.....nothing at all.
Personally, I think they made the conditional offer just as a matter of expedience. The Presidents convened in Atlanta, and only then did they learn that Baylor was reneging on its earlier acquiescence to the move. A true "slow play" would have been to tell A$M, "Sorry, but we won't vote on you until this issue is resolved". But, of course, they would mean sending all the Presidents home and then getting them re-convened at some other date. So - I think - they decided to go ahead and vote and agree that A$M is in if they can get the issues resolved.
Like I said, this just comes off as weak. " Oh, we WANT to expand, but we won't do it unless everyone agrees to it." I agree with the author that this gives too much power to Baylor. But, in the end, the SEC is still in control of the situation.
And I don't blame Baylor for their position one bit. Why should they agree to waive their legal rights? They are getting nothing out of this. Worse, they are getting shafted by all of this. They probably won't ever sue, but why agee to that up front?
Personally, I think they made the conditional offer just as a matter of expedience. The Presidents convened in Atlanta, and only then did they learn that Baylor was reneging on its earlier acquiescence to the move. A true "slow play" would have been to tell A$M, "Sorry, but we won't vote on you until this issue is resolved". But, of course, they would mean sending all the Presidents home and then getting them re-convened at some other date. So - I think - they decided to go ahead and vote and agree that A$M is in if they can get the issues resolved.
Like I said, this just comes off as weak. " Oh, we WANT to expand, but we won't do it unless everyone agrees to it." I agree with the author that this gives too much power to Baylor. But, in the end, the SEC is still in control of the situation.
And I don't blame Baylor for their position one bit. Why should they agree to waive their legal rights? They are getting nothing out of this. Worse, they are getting shafted by all of this. They probably won't ever sue, but why agee to that up front?