SEC-ESPN/ABC Contract

Bhamdawg1725

Junior
Dec 15, 2023
144
272
63


Should the ADs and Presidents be having a serious conversation with the league office about this contract Sankey negotiated? This looks to be the 3rd or 4th rights contract in a row that the SEC severely undersold the value.

Part of the issue is we kinda let the B1G set the market while also limiting our options. CBS and Fox were never in our negotiations, truthfully, bc of the damaged relationship with CBS and bc Fox already locked in BIG. That limited competing offers.

ABC is laughing all the way to the bank
 
  • Like
Reactions: Seinfeld and patdog

olblue

All-Conference
Aug 17, 2011
3,573
1,805
113


Should the ADs and Presidents be having a serious conversation with the league office about this contract Sankey negotiated? This looks to be the 3rd or 4th rights contract in a row that the SEC severely undersold the value.

Part of the issue is we kinda let the B1G set the market while also limiting our options. CBS and Fox were never in our negotiations, truthfully, bc of the damaged relationship with CBS and bc Fox already locked in BIG. That limited competing offers.

ABC is laughing all the way to the bank

Are ADs and Presidents even capable of having a serious conversation about optimizing revenue? Sankey has convinced them that he’s the guy while getting his *** kicked time after time. And with the B1G out in front with their discussions with PE, it is about to happen again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: patdog

Maroon13

All-Conference
Sep 29, 2022
3,592
3,691
113
What discussions with PE? Do you have a link?

It is all very interesting. Notice the teams you see and don't see in that graphic too. Tells me conferences aren't as important as important matchups for ratings. I'm guessing TV with 50 years of modern football history, knows who draws ratings and will adjust their contracts in the future.

State is already getting a hint of that, being relegated to sec network every week.
 

CaptainFalcon

All-Conference
Apr 30, 2025
986
1,636
93
If my memory serves correct, the SEC wanted to stick with CBS and CBS lowballed them. And then CBS ended up having to pay huge money for the number 2 or number 3 Big 10 games each week.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
56,705
26,040
113
If my memory serves correct, the SEC wanted to stick with CBS and CBS lowballed them. And then CBS ended up having to pay huge money for the number 2 or number 3 Big 10 games each week.
SEC was always leaving CBS after they wouldn’t renegotiate when SEC added A&M and Missouri. CBS would had to overpay to keep the SEC. But they got 10 years at a very good price for them.
 

onewoof

Heisman
Mar 4, 2008
14,886
12,993
113
You are correct in the top 10 most watched but what you do not show is the # of TV subscribers. The Midwest kicks the ever living hell out of the South in total population and therefore total TV subscribers. Not a single person could watch a Big 10 game and they get paid the same. The ad revenue is better on ABC for top 10 games but the average regular season game numbers are higher with Big10 than SEC.
 

Bhamdawg1725

Junior
Dec 15, 2023
144
272
63
You are correct in the top 10 most watched but what you do not show is the # of TV subscribers. The Midwest kicks the ever living hell out of the South in total population and therefore total TV subscribers. Not a single person could watch a Big 10 game and they get paid the same. The ad revenue is better on ABC for top 10 games but the average regular season game numbers are higher with Big10 than SEC.
With admittedly no research, my assumption is the network’s ad revenue dwarfs the subscription revenue. Especially considering most of the bigger games are on network TV and not cable.
 

olblue

All-Conference
Aug 17, 2011
3,573
1,805
113
What discussions with PE? Do you have a link?

It is all very interesting. Notice the teams you see and don't see in that graphic too. Tells me conferences aren't as important as important matchups for ratings. I'm guessing TV with 50 years of modern football history, knows who draws ratings and will adjust their contracts in the future.

State is already getting a hint of that, being relegated to sec network every week.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Maroon13

Dawgg

Heisman
Sep 9, 2012
10,535
10,793
113
If I recall correctly, Sankey had reportedly warned the school presidents against having one media partner control all of their rights, but the presidents wanted the flexibility and longer “look ahead” scheduling windows that would have been available in the all Disney deal. I could have that wrong, but it seems like I remember reading that.

It also meant they don’t have to renegotiate with multiple partners if/when expansion happens. The hodgepodge of media rights deals is why the B1G couldn’t pay full shares to Oregon and Washington when they came aboard. They had to renegotiate 3 different contracts individually and at least one (though likely all) of the media partners balked at the pro-rata, so the new teams get a smaller share. The Big 12 ran into the same issue as well. They have a pro-rata agreement for accepting existing Power 5 teams from ESPN, but not Fox, so any new Big 12 teams have to be re-negotiated for Fox.

The SEC can add whoever it wants and ESPN has pay up as part of the contract. It’s a primary factor that will make the SEC more attractive than the Big Ten when the inevitable ACC collapse happens.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bulldog from Birth

Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
11,122
6,942
113


Should the ADs and Presidents be having a serious conversation with the league office about this contract Sankey negotiated? This looks to be the 3rd or 4th rights contract in a row that the SEC severely undersold the value.

Part of the issue is we kinda let the B1G set the market while also limiting our options. CBS and Fox were never in our negotiations, truthfully, bc of the damaged relationship with CBS and bc Fox already locked in BIG. That limited competing offers.

ABC is laughing all the way to the bank

It has seemed for years as if every time we catch up with B1G on media rights, they announce a new one that is double whatever Sankey got