SEC Network eventually worth $70+ Mill per team?
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I'm telling you guys, the federal government has its eye on that money. It's just a matter of time until that stuff is taxed.
I wonder where the SEC ranks amongst the likes of the Catholic Church or the United Way in terms of revenue.
I guess charities are to be punished when they are too successful in making the poor successful (with college degrees or pro sports careers).
Longevity in charity can only be attained by being mostly unsuccessful in getting the needy out of poverty or at least into substinance.
I guess charities are to be punished when they are too successful in making the poor successful (with college degrees or pro sports careers).
Longevity in charity can only be attained by being mostly unsuccessful in getting the needy out of poverty or at least into substinance.
the feds have their eyes on ALL the money they can see......
i've read (don't know for sure its true) that Obamacare gives the feds direct, realtime access to all bank accounts. someone else may comment on the accuracy but some may ask what does that have to do with medical coverage. well, nothing but when did that stop the gov't. and by the by, THIS is why they are all about gun control. they're not worried about our kids and neighborhoods they don't want us to be able to fight back against big brother.
i've read (don't know for sure its true) that Obamacare gives the feds direct, realtime access to all bank accounts. someone else may comment on the accuracy but some may ask what does that have to do with medical coverage. well, nothing but when did that stop the gov't. and by the by, THIS is why they are all about gun control. they're not worried about our kids and neighborhoods they don't want us to be able to fight back against big brother.
I was intrigued by your question...
SEC: 261 million in 2011; probably into the Billions now or in near future with new contracts.
United Way: Donations of 5.4 Billion in 2011 (which is somehow different than revenue at $96 million)
Catholic Church: Hard to say, but The Economist estimated they SPENT $170 Billion in 2010. So it's safe to say they are much larger than the other two, if not much larger than every other non-government entity.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...e-catholic-church-spent-171600000000-in-2010/
The Clarion Ledger has an online story on how much it will help UM and MSU. The article said Big 10 teams actually received more per team than the SEC teams, because of their network. It won't help parity in smaller conferences, but it should boost parity within the SEC itself. Bama will be richer, of course, but there is eventually a point at which the extra bucks don't mean as much. Hopefully, this gets us closer to that. http://www.clarionledger.com/articl...unclear-will-boost-Mississippi-State-Ole-Miss
Not only that, the Catholic Church has lots of gold and "facilities". The SEC's money is practically all paper money. For what that's worth ....
News Flash ...
All of that $$ is already taxed. And, it will continue to be taxed. Right now, UTube is exploring charging for 'premium' content. As long as the SEC is the #1 show in CFB, it will prosper.
Here in Virginia, a Norfolk TV station shows SEC football & BB games and has never had a problem with selling ads.
All of that $$ is already taxed. And, it will continue to be taxed. Right now, UTube is exploring charging for 'premium' content. As long as the SEC is the #1 show in CFB, it will prosper.
Here in Virginia, a Norfolk TV station shows SEC football & BB games and has never had a problem with selling ads.
That was my thinking the last time the SEC signed a big ESPN contract. But it didn't contribute to parity at all. Instead, the good got even more dominant.
I think it drew more national talent to the SEC and the best teams had even better players to cherry pick.
This could be a downside for MSU,OM,Vandy & UK
remember I said COULD BE....I don`t claim to know
The Big Ten will move to at least nine conference football games per season and possibly 10 according to league commissioner Jim Delany. The move has been rumored for several weeks, but Delany confirmed the decision yesterday:
“There’s real recognition that we now live in two regions of the country, and we want to make sure those are bound together as best we can, so more games (makes sense). Eight games is not on the table. It’s nine or 10.”
Ohio State AD Gene Smith also said: “There’s television considerations there when you have intriguing conference matchups that are better than some of our non-conference matchups, that’s an important piece.”
That could also be an important piece for the SEC moving forward. Under current plans, the Big Ten, Pac-12, and Big XII will all be playing at least nine conference games per year. The SEC currently plays eight league games. The SEC’s format results in one more cupcake game per year for each school and fewer visits to and from conference rivals.
Eventually — as we’ve stated for more than a year — the Southeastern Conference will move to a nine-game schedule. It will have to (barring a scheduling alliance with another conference). Its television partners and the league’s own SEC Network will require such a move for content purposes.
remember I said COULD BE....I don`t claim to know
The Big Ten will move to at least nine conference football games per season and possibly 10 according to league commissioner Jim Delany. The move has been rumored for several weeks, but Delany confirmed the decision yesterday:
“There’s real recognition that we now live in two regions of the country, and we want to make sure those are bound together as best we can, so more games (makes sense). Eight games is not on the table. It’s nine or 10.”
Ohio State AD Gene Smith also said: “There’s television considerations there when you have intriguing conference matchups that are better than some of our non-conference matchups, that’s an important piece.”
That could also be an important piece for the SEC moving forward. Under current plans, the Big Ten, Pac-12, and Big XII will all be playing at least nine conference games per year. The SEC currently plays eight league games. The SEC’s format results in one more cupcake game per year for each school and fewer visits to and from conference rivals.
Eventually — as we’ve stated for more than a year — the Southeastern Conference will move to a nine-game schedule. It will have to (barring a scheduling alliance with another conference). Its television partners and the league’s own SEC Network will require such a move for content purposes.
There is no doubt the Big 10 is going to 9 games starting in 2016 (give or take a year). It's already been approved. The SEC is a different animal than any of those other leagues, though. They're going to 9 games because they have to to generate decent TV games. That's not the case with the SEC.
9-10 games is totally a B1G thing. Their own self importance and delusions of grandeur demand such thinking. They should learn from North Korea that isolationism is bad.
The SEC will never do that. It is too profitable to schedule W's for national championship seeding.
Worst case the SEC has some deal for season openers against the Big 12 or something.
The SEC will never do that. It is too profitable to schedule W's for national championship seeding.
Worst case the SEC has some deal for season openers against the Big 12 or something.
I disagree, Flab. There has already been an increase in parity in the SEC in the(only 3 i believe) years since the first huge contract was signed.
- Vanderbilt is at an all-time high on every level.
- OM just put together arguably the best class in history by a non traditional power.
- USCe is at a totally different level than they've ever been to in every regard.
- Arky went to the greatest height in their modern era by making a bcs games.
- UK renovating the stadium and recruiting on a different level than they ever have.
- We are recruiting up a tier from what we had become accustomed... And are expanding the stadium. We are on our second best 4 yr run in 70 years.
Now, that doesn't mean that any of us are suddenly a distinct threat to the big6 -- which we haven't been for 50 years anyway...
I doubt seriously the SEC now will move to a 9-game conference schedule and it was mentioned in OKTC. And it's the first time I've seen someone point this out: "That's 56 conference games, 56 out of conference games, and the SEC title game. (Interestingly, playing nine conference games actually decreases the SEC's football game inventory by seven games)."
Additional conference games mean less games to televise and less money for the SEC. So I doubt the SEC will go to a 9-game conference schedule. Universities may be encouraged to play power conference teams in non-conference games though.
Additional conference games mean less games to televise and less money for the SEC. So I doubt the SEC will go to a 9-game conference schedule. Universities may be encouraged to play power conference teams in non-conference games though.
Sure, spending is up.
USC is reaching a level of winning that people have said they were capable of since joining the SEC.
Ole Miss, Our State - are farther from the top now than the average of either team was throughout the 90s. Middle of the pack is mind blowing success for any of these schools. Same for UK and Vandy.
Arkansas finally got over the Nutt, who had lightening in a bottle with McFadden and Jones, and thrived with one of the best offensive coaches in the nation. Lets see if they repeat.
The bottom tier of the SEC is farther away from Bama, LSU, and Georgia than they have ever been. Just a couple years ago, the #1, 2, 3 teams in the nation were in the SEC West while Our State and Ole Miss were quite pedestrian.
Gap = wider despite unprecedented spending across all schools.
Do you think we could see all the best coaches in the SEC? Other than a Texas, Ohio State, etc, the SEC ought to out bid everybody for coaches.
Which brings me to our assistants. We reached a competitive salary level with Mullen. When in the sam hell are we gonna pay competitive rates for assistants? Sure would be nice to be able to keep a Brick Haley or aspiring and talented offensive and defensive coordinator.
Yeah we think we like Collins. Get back to me after he pans out and stays here more than a couple years.
When we start paying assistants, we have a chance at taking the program up a notch.
Which brings me to our assistants. We reached a competitive salary level with Mullen. When in the sam hell are we gonna pay competitive rates for assistants? Sure would be nice to be able to keep a Brick Haley or aspiring and talented offensive and defensive coordinator.
Yeah we think we like Collins. Get back to me after he pans out and stays here more than a couple years.
When we start paying assistants, we have a chance at taking the program up a notch.
You`re getting where the SEC stands competition-wise vs money wise mixed up. While the competitive edge in football is obvious the income difference is not going to be that great long term. We are fact substantially lower than the B1G and PAC right now in per team pay-outs but about to move ahead of them for some period of time but that period ain`t necessarily forever. They`ll re-negotiate contracts too. The SEC`s dominance in football right now is as much about the "all in" attitude within the conference that goes all the way to the SEC front offices as it is finances. AND at some point the SEC has got to get basketball off of it`s *** and back in the national limelight as something other than a one team league. Football will struggle to support this network all by itself.
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I don't think we are better than Sherrill's average 90's teams.
In almost any given year, a 90s Sherrill team could beat or almost beat any other team in the SEC. Including Alabama, LSU, or a good UF team. We aren't close to that now.
I think that is more about the rich getting richer than us getting worse.
Steve Spurrier agrees with me. He said the difference between the SEC now and several years ago is that a few teams get all the best players.
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Totally agree. While the overall state of our program, Vandy's, UM's, and maybe UK's is better now that perhaps they ever been since integration, we're all still miles (and Sabans) away from being consistently able to beat those upper tier teams. In the early to mid 2000s I heard it described as hammers and nails. LSU, Bama, Florida, UGA, Auburn and UT were the hammers at that time. The other six were the nails. There's some fluctuation of course with most every team. Even Bama was average for a while and we were able to chalk up some wins against them. For the most part though, over the long haul we are nails in a hammer league and while we may be more equipped to take on OOC opponents, we've got our work cut out for us being .500 in the conference for the forseeable future.
I agree the rising tide will likely lift all boats. It is also my impression that the "little guys" have more to gain. At the end of the day, it's all about recruiting. Do that well, and the rest falls into place. Being able to update facilities so that there is not such a stark comparison between the "have-mores" and "have-lesses" (there are no SEC "have nots") has to be a good thing for the Mississippi schools. It's one thing to have a small campus in a small town, but run down facilities or something "cheap" looking or rinky-dink makes it worse. The MSU and UM ADs think it's a plus for the schools, but then again, what else were they going to say?
I don't know about that. Sherrill coached in a much weaker SEC than the one Mullen is coaching in. LSU sucked back then and Sherrill still couldn't beat them. My point wasn't so much about us specifically and it was about the bottom teams as a group. Today, pretty much every school in the conference is going to put a competitive team on the field most years.
You guys need to do a google news search on "SEC 9 conference games" . I hope and pray you`re right about the 8 games but there is a hell of a lot of chatter.
Nowhere close. Like not even in the same solar system, much less the same planet.
Just a random baseless claim by you, or is there actual stats to back this up?
The SEC isnt a charity. Universities arent a charity. And since neither of those are charities, a university's athletics department is anything but a charity. This is a business. This business is trying everything possible both within the rules and outside the rules to gain a larger market share from its competitors(other teams). All this is done for direct financial gain and brand recognition(indirect financial gain).
Nothing about this is charitable. Nothing about this is for the betterment of individuals. Nothing about this is altruistic.
Wow, quite the pessimist, eh? Longevity in charity is not reliant on failing to succeed. As long as there are people that need help, charity can be sustained. And thru all of history, people have needed help. People will always need help, even when it isnt the same people each time.
The worst case scenario is exactly what I see except that I think that SEC teams will likely play ACC teams since they also have eight conference games (plus Notre Dame). Carolina and Clemson play as does Florida already plays Florida State and Georgia & Georgia Tech-- not to mention that Kentucky vs. Louisville will be a SEC-ACC matchup in the future. The Big 12 has committed to a round robin 9-game conference schedule.
Right. Unless there's major upsets, I see an SEC representative among the four invited. The worst thing that could happen would be if a school has a late 1990s era schedule. The SEC will have an 8-game schedule until 2015. When people see how selections are made, the SEC will react accordingly if it helps get a second school in the playoff.
Yeah, there's chatter but you have Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina who are mandated to play Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Clemson and Kentucky - Louisville is a rivalry as well. I think what will happen is that the SEC and ACC will have an informal scheduling partnership. The ACC schools not playing Notre Dame (and who don't already have rivalry games) and would like to play an SEC school could be available. It could be as many as nine or as few as five-- since the Irish are mandated to play five ACC teams per season.
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There is a reason that the SEC was weaker back then....it had more to do with the good players going to traditional powers outside the SEC....Florida State, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Michigan, etc. Somewhere along the line, that changed, and all of those powers are in the SEC. Most things are cyclical, but I think we've reached a tipping point where the SEC may never be surpassed again in terms of conference strength. Recruits know, if you want to be the best, you play the best. And if you want to play in the league, you go where the spotlight is brighter. That mindset will never change, and the SEC is that place...and will be for some time. Because of that, Alabama and LSU have widened the gap with the rest of the conference, but we are all much better. Yes, rising tides lift all boats.
For all the chatter, there has been no action. 90%+ of the chatter is nothing more than speculation from people who really don't know what's going on and pushing their own agenda for the SEC. Maroon Eagle is right. The SEC will stay at 8 through at least 2015 and would only adjust if the 8-game schedule was hurting its chances to get 2 teams in the playoff. That will not be the case, though. A 9-game schedule is better for trying to get 1 team in the playoff rather than none. But an 8-game schedule will turn out to be better for your chances of getting 2 teams in rather than 1.
