SEC projected to send 13 teams to NCAAT

[18IsTheMan]

Darn near the entire conference. The SEC will comprise 20% of the entire field of 64.

If someone told you before the start of the season that the SEC would send 13 of its 16 teams to the NCAAT, how confident would you have been that we would be one of those teams?

 

[Piscis]

The SEC has really stepped up its basketball game over the last 20 years. I remember when basketball in the SEC meant Kentucky and maybe one other team that had an outlier great team for one season.

The ACC and the Big East were the royal families of college basketball for a long time.

 

[Cybercock]

Darn near the entire conference. The SEC will comprise 20% of the entire field of 64.

If someone told you before the start of the season that the SEC would send 13 of its 16 teams to the NCAAT, how confident would you have been that we would be one of those teams?

No team thats under .500 in any conference should make the field in my opinion.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Darn near the entire conference. The SEC will comprise 20% of the entire field of 64.

If someone told you before the start of the season that the SEC would send 13 of its 16 teams to the NCAAT, how confident would you have been that we would be one of those teams?

Anybody that paid attention would’ve known we likely weren’t going to be in the top 13. Fans are always optimistic, but heading into the season the conference was loaded and we lost a ton off of last year’s team.

Entering conference play “the experts” predicted we’d do well to win 4-6 games. We didn’t do well obviously. This team didn’t have the players to be successful this season. Have to recruit better. And many will point out we were in a lot of close games, but that’s when the cream rises to the top and our worst basketball was always played when the game was on the line.

No way around it, the season was a failure. Did the strength of the conference contribute to it? Sure. Could we have been a bubble team in another conference? Possibly. But we don’t play in those other conferences and the real bottom line is if we want to win championships, we have to build a better team anyway.

Not sure where to go from here. This program is historically pitiful. If not for one magical run in 2017 it would probably be the worst major basketball program in the country over the past 20-25 years. It continues to amaze me how bad we’ve been. Paris has to win next season. Hoping our new AD is able to hire a good coach. We should’ve hired Bob Richey from Furman…he’s the one that has built a consistent winner. Paris just had a good run over 2-3 weeks.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Anybody that paid attention would’ve known we likely weren’t going to be in the top 13. Fans are always optimistic, but heading into the season the conference was loaded and we lost a ton off of last year’s team.

Entering conference play “the experts” predicted we’d do well to win 4-6 games. We didn’t do well obviously. This team didn’t have the players to be successful this season. Have to recruit better. And many will point out we were in a lot of close games, but that’s when the cream rises to the top and our worst basketball was always played when the game was on the line.

No way around it, the season was a failure. Did the strength of the conference contribute to it? Sure. Could we have been a bubble team in another conference? Possibly. But we don’t play in those other conferences and the real bottom line is if we want to win championships, we have to build a better team anyway.

Not sure where to go from here. This program is historically pitiful. If not for one magical run in 2017 it would probably be the worst major basketball program in the country over the past 20-25 years. It continues to amaze me how bad we’ve been. Paris has to win next season. Hoping our new AD is able to hire a good coach. We should’ve hired Bob Richey from Furman…he’s the one that has built a consistent winner. Paris just had a good run over 2-3 weeks.

As to the close game argument from others that you reference, people only lean on that when you lose a lot. Like in football, coaches will talk about the number of single score games they lost but ignore the number of single score games they won that could have gone the other way.

I don't see it as a positive when you lose every close game you were involved in. For some reason, that gives some fans hope. Doesn't for me. We could not coach or play our way to win a single close game this year.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Now with 14 teams projected to make it. Obviously, there are not 14 deserving teams, but that's how many will likely go anyway.

That's 22% of the entire field. If an SEC team doesn't win the whole thing, it will be the most colossal failure in sports.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

No team thats under .500 in any conference should make the field in my opinion.

All conferences aren't made equal. I bet you loved the CFP committee's bracket they gave this past football season.

 

[18IsTheMan]

All conferences aren't made equal. I bet you loved the CFP committee's bracket they gave this past football season.

I agree to an extent. I think 2-16 in conference play should disqualify you from even the make believe postseason tournaments.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

I agree to an extent. I think 2-16 in conference play should disqualify you from even the make believe postseason tournaments.

2-16 conference play should lead to mandatory rectal exams.

 

[Thunderstick]

2-16 conference play should lead to cancellation of next year’s schedule.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

Did we get in?

 

[Cybercock]

All conferences aren't made equal. I bet you loved the CFP committee's bracket they gave this past football season.

So thev "lesser" conferences suffer so a team that got beat by more teams in their conference than they beat gets a shot?

 

[18IsTheMan]

It's absurd that Texas could get in at 19-15 (6-12). OU and Arkansas at 20-13 is silly too.

 

[Cackmandu]

Funny thing, we had more wins in the ACC than the SEC. We were 3-0 in the ACC!

 

[Uscg1984]

Funny thing, we had more wins in the ACC than the SEC. We were 3-0 in the ACC!

Yes, we did our part in contributing to the SEC's 30-4 record against the ACC this year.

I see the SEC also went 14-2 against the Big XII.

This appears to be an unprecedentedly good conference, which explains the unprecedentedly high number of of teams in the tournament.

 

[atl-cock]

Darn near the entire conference. The SEC will comprise 20% of the entire field of 64.

If someone told you before the start of the season that the SEC would send 13 of its 16 teams to the NCAAT, how confident would you have been that we would be one of those teams?

In which sport?

 

[ScWildthing61]

All I know is we're one of two SEC teams that'll be sitting home this postseason. When you have the bracket potentially matching conference rivals up in the sweet 16, and even the round of 32, a conference has too many damn members! Conference rivals really shouldn't be facing off until at least the Elite 8.

These Conferences should be no less than 8 members, but no more than 12 and the conference affiliations should make geographical sense. The NCAA tournament used to be exciting not just because of the potential upsets, but the possibility of power teams meeting in the later rounds that otherwise wouldn't face off in the regular season. Now the NCAA tournament just feels watered down. All that conference realignment garbage ruined it.

 

[Cybercock]

All I know is we're one of two SEC teams that'll be sitting home this postseason. When you have the bracket potentially matching conference rivals up in the sweet 16, and even the round of 32, a conference has too many damn members! Conference rivals really shouldn't be facing off until at least the Elite 8.

These Conferences should be no less than 8 members, but no more than 12 and the conference affiliations should make geographical sense. The NCAA tournament used to be exciting not just because of the potential upsets, but the possibility of power teams meeting in the later rounds that otherwise wouldn't face off in the regular season. Now the NCAA tournament just feels watered down. All that conference realignment garbage ruined it.

Exactly... all about $$$$

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

All I know is we're one of two SEC teams that'll be sitting home this postseason. When you have the bracket potentially matching conference rivals up in the sweet 16, and even the round of 32, a conference has too many damn members! Conference rivals really shouldn't be facing off until at least the Elite 8.

These Conferences should be no less than 8 members, but no more than 12 and the conference affiliations should make geographical sense. The NCAA tournament used to be exciting not just because of the potential upsets, but the possibility of power teams meeting in the later rounds that otherwise wouldn't face off in the regular season. Now the NCAA tournament just feels watered down. All that conference realignment garbage ruined it.

I don't know about limiting # of schools in each conference, but we just watched the SEC tournament, I have no appetite to see some of these schools face off again in the tournament. I'll be pulling for some major "March Madness" starting this weekend.
It would be beyond satisfying to see another Auburn-Yale outcome occur once again.

 

[Piscis]

It's absurd that Texas could get in at 19-15 (6-12). OU and Arkansas at 20-13 is silly too.

When you have a tournament with a ridiculous 68 teams in it, there is no way to not take some teams that clearly have no business being in any sort of post season play. Football is the same way with the absurd number of bowls.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

When you have a tournament with a ridiculous 68 teams in it, there is no way to not take some teams that clearly have no business being in any sort of post season play. Football is the same way with the absurd number of bowls.

Don't worry, they're trying to remedy that... by expanding even further.

Before long they'll have to recruit NAIA schools to fill out the bracket because there won't be enough D1 schools with basketball programs to fill them all.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Don't worry, they're trying to remedy that... by expanding even further.

Before long they'll have to recruit NAIA schools to fill out the bracket because there won't be enough D1 schools with basketball programs to fill them all.

You've missed the point entirely. The point of contention is that there were more deserving teams that should have been included, than Texas and UNC, not there were not enough quality teams to fill out the brackets.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

You've missed the point entirely. The point of contention is that there were more deserving teams that should have been included, than Texas and UNC, not there were not enough quality teams to fill out the brackets.

Actually, I didn't miss the point entirely - I commented on the, "When you have a tournament with a ridiculous 68 teams in it, there is no way to not take some teams that clearly have no business being in any sort of post season play" portion and remarked that because they're planning further expansion, no one will be left out, deserving or not. So, if you think there are undeserving teams in and deserving teams left out with 68 in the field, wait until the number of spots is greater than the number of member schools... where everyone and then some get in the tourney. It was meant to be somewhat humorous by way of absurdity (the planned expansions), but we all know it ain't funny when you have to 'splain it.

Sorry that you missed my point since I apparently wasn't clear enough to begin with.

 

[Beanerball]

West Virginia should have got in over UNC. But, SEC gage should be how many teams make the elite 8, whether you win the whole thing or not. Sure, based on our # of teams in I think one will win it all, not necessarily pulling for it because we have to recruit against these guys. Make no mistake though, SEC MBB was the best league by far this year and don’t see that changing next year.

 

[Cybercock]

West Virginia should have got in over UNC. But, SEC gage should be how many teams make the elite 8, whether you win the whole thing or not. Sure, based on our # of teams in I think one will win it all, not necessarily pulling for it because we have to recruit against these guys. Make no mistake though, SEC MBB was the best league by far this year and don’t see that changing next year.

He who has the cash will be the victor.
Sad but here we are....making teenagers rich.

 

[Beanerball]

Yep

 

[Piscis]

West Virginia should have got in over UNC. But, SEC gage should be how many teams make the elite 8, whether you win the whole thing or not. Sure, based on our # of teams in I think one will win it all, not necessarily pulling for it because we have to recruit against these guys. Make no mistake though, SEC MBB was the best league by far this year and don’t see that changing next year.

All schools are recruiting against all other schools now. A kid making $1million a year to play a game isn't concerned about travel distances for momma. He can charter a plane to bring her to every game.

 

[atl-cock]

All I know is we're one of two SEC teams that'll be sitting home this postseason. When you have the bracket potentially matching conference rivals up in the sweet 16, and even the round of 32, a conference has too many damn members! Conference rivals really shouldn't be facing off until at least the Elite 8.

These Conferences should be no less than 8 members, but no more than 12 and the conference affiliations should make geographical sense. The NCAA tournament used to be exciting not just because of the potential upsets, but the possibility of power teams meeting in the later rounds that otherwise wouldn't face off in the regular season. Now the NCAA tournament just feels watered down. All that conference realignment garbage ruined it.

Yes - historically and traditionally, an athletic conference is composed of "like minded" schools in roughly the same geographical footprint.
South Carolina and Oklahoma are not in the same geographical footprint. Nor are North Carolina and California.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Yes - historically and traditionally, an athletic conference is composed of "like minded" schools in roughly the same geographical footprint.
South Carolina and Oklahoma are not in the same geographical foor print. Nor are North Carolina and California.

Nor West Virginia and Utah, Nor Oregon/Washington and Michigan/Ohio , but this is the world we now live in.

 

[atl-cock]

Nor West Virginia and Utah, Nor Oregon/Washington and Michigan/Ohio , but this is the world we now live in.

The Ivy League, and I suspect most NCAA D-II, D-III, and NAIA conferences are still geographically based.