SEC teams in hot pursuit of QBC champ Mac Jones

[*Bleedingblue*]

I didn't even write the article you guys have linked here. Did you actually read it? Or just the headline?

Based on your rambling theory here, I want kids not to go to Kentucky and somehow that influences my reporting on kids who might go to Georgia? Where exactly do you think I want kids to go and why?

Our front page has literally been filled with stories praising Mac Jones for the past three days, including an in-depth interview I did with him that you can only find here.

Grumpy was just commenting from the Georgia fan base point of view. He is a regular poster who visits here from time to time and posts his views on our team and the state of the SEC. We have several posters here who are fans of other programs like rammerjammer (Bama), wildcard or steelers (Louisville) or Grumpy (Georgia) who you are familiar with. Those are just a couple names as their are many more.

We UK fans battle each other a good bit on here so when you visit here you better bring your pads
You should see some of the arguments I get in discussing the OL and DL coaches. Don't even want to touch on the Tubby Smith wars in rafters. Haha

I think it's humorous reading guys responses to you and you come back and blast them right back. Makes me love the board even more

But hey we do all this in fun with each other and not everybody is going to have the same opinions as each other and this is what makes this board kinda fun.

 

[RivalsWoody]

Thx BB, I knew something had to have happened somewhere alone the way, He may have asked Pruitt a question he didn't like, I can't imagine that going well. But he purposely tries to stir the pot on our recruiting board, and is very successful. I don't think we have anyone on staff now that would be unusually rude to him, but no doubt in my mind Pruitt would be, turning the other cheek isn't is strength. Richt couldn't keep him in check, don't think Kirby wanted to try, Saban is probably the only one with a chance to keep him in check.

Pruitt and I have never had much of a relationship, whether it's been at FSU, Alabama or Georgia.

Last summer at Georgia's camp I got scolded by compliance, despite not doing anything different than any other reporter in attendance.

As for the new staff, I've met Kirby Smart a few times and we have a cordial relationship. He may even be making an appearance on the podcast sometime soon.

 

[RivalsWoody]

I did some surfing around and found a video of the interview instead of the podcast. He talks about a Georgia incident between the 3-4 min mark.
Sounds like somebody in the Georgia compliance office or one of the coaches was stepping on Woody's toes

https://n.rivals.com/news/commitment-issues-podcast-kentucky-qb-commit-mac-jones

The incident Mac and I are discussing here is when he came up to say hello to me and then I was told if I spoke to him I would be kicked out of the camp.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Pruitt and I have never had much of a relationship, whether it's been at FSU, Alabama or Georgia.

Last summer at Georgia's camp I got scolded by compliance, despite not doing anything different than any other reporter in attendance.

As for the new staff, I've met Kirby Smart a few times and we have a cordial relationship. He may even be making an appearance on the podcast sometime soon.

So you like messing with UGA fans to get even for being scolded by the compliance office. Maybe they have seen your work and decided to treat you the way you treat UGA and the fans. Its been on going for years, now you are running back and forth to different boards defending yourself.

 

[JayCatz44]

So you like messing with UGA fans to get even for being scolded by the compliance office. Maybe they have seen your work and decided to treat you the way you treat UGA and the fans. Its been on going for years, now you are running back and forth to different boards defending yourself.

I've yet to see any credentials that back-up Woody as a legitimate talent scout. He graduated college. So have many of us here. That makes us just as qualified to scout talent. I doubt he's played the game other than maybe on ST.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I've yet to see any credentials that back-up Woody as a legitimate talent scout. He graduated college. So have many of us here. That makes us just as qualified to scout talent. I doubt he's played the game other than maybe on ST.

I would say that any scout is paid on their merit of having a good eye. Of course not every kid who is ranked high by Woody or the others is going to be a guaranteed producer as their are a lot of other intangibles in place when they get to college. It will be quite noticeable when you have some average Joe trying to do rankings of players who has no eye what so ever. Those type of guys quickly lose their job, or just do not get any offers.

I'm no expert by no means on football prospects but I can say I'm pretty good on basketball players. I was on rafters talking about players like Otto Porter, Jamal Murray etc waayyyy before they even got on the radar nationally. I come on rafters proclaiming that Murray is one of the best skilled guards I have watched, wasn't overly athletic but he was a tremendous player who was going to be a star. That was at the beginning of his Junior year. Same thing with Otto Porter, nobody had heard of him and I was singing his praises.
Some guys are highly ranked but I didn't like them that much like the Harrison twins for example. I watched them several times in HS while both were top 7 and I thought they were 4 star talents. Said back then I'd have them ranked in the 40's.

Just an art to it. Their is no school you go to that can teach you that.

 

[UKCatNnc]

Yuck! Wommack is a dud. I sure wouldn't want to listen to him very often. Go Cats!!

 

[fuzz77]

Do any of you really think that what some writer at Rivals or any of the other similar sites is going to affect the decision a kid makes as where to go to school?

Do you really care if they raise or lower a kid's ranking??? If anything, a lower ranking could only serve to inspire a kid to prove those who ranked him lower, wrong. I know fans want to brag about their recruiting class rankings...but I'd rather just win games.

Mac is going to go to school wherever he chooses...I really doubt that any article or interview is going to influence that decision.

 

[JayCatz44]

I would say that any scout is paid on their merit of having a good eye. Of course not every kid who is ranked high by Woody or the others is going to be a guaranteed producer as their are a lot of other intangibles in place when they get to college. It will be quite noticeable when you have some average Joe trying to do rankings of players who has no eye what so ever. Those type of guys quickly lose their job, or just do not get any offers.

I'm no expert by no means on football prospects but I can say I'm pretty good on basketball players. I was on rafters talking about players like Otto Porter, Jamal Murray etc waayyyy before they even got on the radar nationally. I come on rafters proclaiming that Murray is one of the best skilled guards I have watched, wasn't overly athletic but he was a tremendous player who was going to be a star. That was at the beginning of his Junior year. Same thing with Otto Porter, nobody had heard of him and I was singing his praises.
Some guys are highly ranked but I didn't like them that much like the Harrison twins for example. I watched them several times in HS while both were top 7 and I thought they were 4 star talents. Said back then I'd have them ranked in the 40's.

Just an art to it. Their is no school you go to that can teach you that.

No, but playing the game and being around it your whole life can go a long way in being a good scout.

 

[rudd1]

-everyone knows the more hair product you use the better internet recruiting guru you are. It's scientifically proven.

 

[Shydog]

No, but playing the game and being around it your whole life can go a long way in being a good scout.

this is why I am amazed that many of our fans will take the word of the "analysts" over the judgement of our coaches! Amazed!!!

 

[JayCatz44]

this is why I am amazed that many of our fans will take the word of the "analysts" over the judgement of our coaches! Amazed!!!

Yeah, me as well. Our coaching staff has an eye for talent.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Bama don't care bout no 'cruitin bump when they're hoisting the hardware every other year. It just shows they got enough talent to win it all.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Bama don't care bout no 'cruitin bump when they're hoisting the hardware every other year. It just shows they got enough talent to win it all.

And after today's revelations of their DL coach bending some rules they might be sweating a little bit.

 

[jauk11]

Do any of you really think that what some writer at Rivals or any of the other similar sites is going to affect the decision a kid makes as where to go to school?

Do you really care if they raise or lower a kid's ranking??? If anything, a lower ranking could only serve to inspire a kid to prove those who ranked him lower, wrong. I know fans want to brag about their recruiting class rankings...but I'd rather just win games.

Mac is going to go to school wherever he chooses...I really doubt that any article or interview is going to influence that decision.

No, but our low (still lowest in the SEC?) COA may sway some top recruits (and commits) and directly affect commitments from players like Mac whether they care a lot about the COA or not.

Another penny wise and pound foolish decision by UK, wherever the fault may lie, as far as the football program is concerned------and millions of dollars are at stake.

 

[fuzz77]

No, but our low (still lowest in the SEC?) COA may sway some top recruits (and commits) and directly affect commitments from players like Mac whether they care a lot about the COA or not.

Another penny wise and pound foolish decision by UK, wherever the fault may lie, as far as the football program is concerned------and millions of dollars are at stake.

jauk, you know next to nothing about COA...of course that has never stopped you from commenting about something in the past.

 

[jauk11]

jauk, you know next to nothing about COA...of course that has never stopped you from commenting about something in the past.

I didn't claim to know a lot about the COA, a very complicated subject from what I do know.

But are the articles I have read and quoted all wrong, is UK close to bringing up the rear of the pack in the SEC or not, are the fair cities of Cincy, Louisville, and Knoxville all home of Universities (or City Colleges) that are among the top ten in COA or not.

Was Bama and Auburn in almost exactly the same situation as UK and Louisville to start with, and didn't Bama correct that situation almost immediately? Wouldn't FOOTBALL have been a great investment LONG before our AD got off his butt (sorry, I still think you must work for him or someone at UK) and wouldn't investing even a little money in it to keep the peons happy have saved a whole bunch of money (lot of ticket holders gone forever) from the empty seats and cancelled season tickets that could have and SHOULD have been avoided.

Go back to celebrating how much money UK has saved from future "possible" lawsuits from rape victims by throwing the he say she say rapist out of school------and hope like hell he doesn't end up suing UK himself.

Do you think football players are exempt from needing some extra cash, it is LEGAL and IS a factor, lots of them weren't born well to do and can't afford a closet full of new shoes for show.

 

[fuzz77]

I didn't claim to know a lot about the COA, a very complicated subject from what I do know.

But are the articles I have read and quoted all wrong, is UK close to bringing up the rear of the pack in the SEC or not, are the fair cities of Cincy, Louisville, and Knoxville all home of Universities (or City Colleges) that are among the top ten in COA or not.

Was Bama and Auburn in almost exactly the same situation as UK and Louisville to start with, and didn't Bama correct that situation almost immediately? Wouldn't FOOTBALL have been a great investment LONG before our AD got off his butt (sorry, I still think you must work for him or someone at UK) and wouldn't investing even a little money in it to keep the peons happy have saved a whole bunch of money (lot of ticket holders gone forever) from the empty seats and cancelled season tickets that could have and SHOULD have been avoided.

Go back to celebrating how much money UK has saved from future "possible" lawsuits from rape victims by throwing the he say she say rapist out of school------and hope like hell he doesn't end up suing UK himself.

Do you think football players are exempt from needing some extra cash, it is LEGAL and IS a factor, lots of them weren't born well to do and can't afford a closet full of new shoes for show.

Athletic Directors do not set the COA, it is set by the Admissions office. Perhaps at some schools the Admissions office is run by Athletics, not at UK. Besides, schools have 101 ways of providing athletes who need it more money.
You are forever stuck in the past. It must really suck to be you.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Athletic Directors do not set the COA, it is set by the Admissions office. Perhaps at some schools the Admissions office is run by Athletics, not at UK. Besides, schools have 101 ways of providing athletes who need it more money.
You are forever stuck in the past. It must really suck to be you.

So you think Auburn Alabama is the most expensive place in the SEC to attend college? The place is a dump, if not for the college it would be a ghost town. I guess AU was able to include shopping trips to buy a shirt if you needed something besides a t-shirt with an AU logo on it. To think it cost twice as much to attend AU and other schools in the SEC is naive, it is near the bottom behind only MSST in real cost. AU saw a way to give themself an advantage and took it, Bama saw what they did and immediately adjusted their COA to be more in line. Hell its one of the poorest states in the country, but it cost more to attend college there than SEC schools in places like Nashville, Lexington or Columbia? They include transportation back and forth from home, roughly 300$ a month, when half the year athletes can't even go home because of their seasons and spring practice. AU isn't considered an outlaw school for nothing.

 

[DACats86]

Athletic Directors do not set the COA, it is set by the Admissions office. Perhaps at some schools the Admissions office is run by Athletics, not at UK. Besides, schools have 101 ways of providing athletes who need it more money.
You are forever stuck in the past. It must really suck to be you.

Very naive.

 

[JHB4UK]

Athletic Directors do not set the COA, it is set by the Admissions office. Perhaps at some schools the Admissions office is run by Athletics, not at UK. Besides, schools have 101 ways of providing athletes who need it more money.

just a complete accident all of UK's opponents in the SEC & UL have exorbitantly high COA's as compared to the rural low cost area they are located. Don't know what you think you gain by trying to play Pollyanna on this issue for years now. pretending the world is a pristine ethical place where egghead admission office pukes who make 80,000 a year set with pure independence the amount Nick Saban pays out to his football players? tell it someplace where it might be believed, that ain't happening with this audience.

Noone who reads your repeated denial-of-reality diatribes that the COA process isnt ripe with corrupted believes you, and instead think you a fool - or a pathetic troll intentionally telling lies.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Hmmm. Mac Jones hopes for TAMU offer.
https://www.seccountry.com/recruiting/kentucky-commit-mac-jones-hoping-for-an-offer-from-texas-am

 

[fuzz77]

just a complete accident all of UK's opponents in the SEC & UL have exorbitantly high COA's as compared to the rural low cost area they are located. Don't know what you think you gain by trying to play Pollyanna on this issue for years now. pretending the world is a pristine ethical place where egghead admission office pukes who make 80,000 a year set with pure independence the amount Nick Saban pays out to his football players? tell it someplace where it might be believed, that ain't happening with this audience.

Noone who reads your repeated denial-of-reality diatribes that the COA process isnt ripe with corrupted believes you, and instead think you a fool - or a pathetic troll intentionally telling lies.

Is the process corrupt? I'm sure it is. I challenge you to find anywhere I have claimed otherwise. (Why do I doubt you'll take that challenge?) But because schools A,B and C use corrupt means or are heavily influenced by the need for athletics to win pissing contest doesn't mean that is the case at every school. Most all of the schools in the SEC and as we all know, UL have their athletics budgets supplemented by the university general fund...i.e. they require their students to all pay fees that supplement the athletics budget of that school. UK doesn't. Not only does UK athletics not take money from the students, it is overly generous to the University and assumed $65 million in bond payments to build facilities for those students. You're welcomed to start a list below of other schools that have done likewise.

With all the crying and whining by fans about COA it hasn't really made any differences in the recruiting wars that we can see. Has it? Cal has recruited as well as ever and Stoops continues to recruit remarkably well, especially given that he has only won 12 games in 3 years.

Financial Aid offices are free to use their "professional judgment" to make variances to COA on a case-by-case basis. Perhaps UK is using this loophole in order to do what they need to do.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Hmmm. Mac Jones hopes for TAMU offer.
https://www.seccountry.com/recruiting/kentucky-commit-mac-jones-hoping-for-an-offer-from-texas-am

Won't be over until ink hits paper, but if I am a recruit, I am hoping every team in the country offers me.

 

[Beatle Bum]

just a complete accident all of UK's opponents in the SEC & UL have exorbitantly high COA's as compared to the rural low cost area they are located. Don't know what you think you gain by trying to play Pollyanna on this issue for years now. pretending the world is a pristine ethical place where egghead admission office pukes who make 80,000 a year set with pure independence the amount Nick Saban pays out to his football players? tell it someplace where it might be believed, that ain't happening with this audience.

Noone who reads your repeated denial-of-reality diatribes that the COA process isnt ripe with corrupted believes you, and instead think you a fool - or a pathetic troll intentionally telling lies.

If UK changed its position and a fan attacked or criticized the decision, he would be here in full defense mode.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Won't be over until ink hits paper, but if I am a recruit, I am hoping every team in the country offers me.

WOW...that is certainly uncomfortable from UK's standpointif if the article is accurate...dosen't seem like he is as solidly committed as it seems...his last visit he told MS he was shutting down his recruiting and was solid with UK according to Smashcat's post and I don't see how you can read it any other way...sure hope it is not the case

 

[DACats86]

If UK changed its position and a fan attacked or criticized the decision, he would be here in full defense mode.

Yes, he is either Mitch or has relationships with him...

 

[seccats04]

Hmmm. Mac Jones hopes for TAMU offer.
https://www.seccountry.com/recruiting/kentucky-commit-mac-jones-hoping-for-an-offer-from-texas-am

I read this too. It doesn't sound like he's committed to UK if he's flirting with other schools like this.

 

[JHB4UK]

Hmmm. Mac Jones hopes for TAMU offer.

I read this too. It doesn't sound like he's committed to UK if he's flirting with other schools like this.

why don't both of you 2 actually read the brutally long 4 paragraph story linked and see that he in fact did not say anything at all about hoping or wanting or begging for an offer from Tejas A&M?

Or, be miserable empty barrels clunking along, your choice

 

[DACats86]

why don't both of you 2 actually read the brutally long 4 paragraph story linked and see that he in fact did not say anything at all about hoping or wanting or begging for an offer from Tejas A&M?

Or, be miserable empty barrels clunking along, your choice

Jumping to conclusions and rumor-mongering are much easier...

 

[seccats04]

why don't both of you 2 actually read the brutally long 4 paragraph story linked and see that he in fact did not say anything at all about hoping or wanting or begging for an offer from Tejas A&M?

Or, be miserable empty barrels clunking along, your choice

Where there's smoke there's usually fire. Not always but usually. If this kid keeps talking to other schools it's not set in stone that he's coming here. It said in the article that if they offer he will set up a visit there. That doesn't sound committed to UK to me.

Look, I hope he does come here because I want to see us win but I've got the battered wife syndrome because I've gotten hyped up for every season for the past 30 years and we've never won more than 7 games in a regular season. So I just expect the worst and hope for the best.