Security cameras?

roadtrasheer

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Going to be installing some cameras around my place .
What's a good option?
I'm thinking solar , but I can do direct wire if need be .
Any ideas?
 

TarHeelEer

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Going to be installing some cameras around my place .
What's a good option?
I'm thinking solar , but I can do direct wire if need be .
Any ideas?

Blink, Nest, Zmoto have all worked for me in the past and now.

I'm getting a solar system in about a month. Off-grid here I come. The only wired system I'll rely on at that point is internet.
 

Hillbilly Tea

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These are some of the best on the market. I am not a proponent of solar or battery operated. Direct wire, POE is the best option. Takes more time, but the reliability is worth it.

SCW Security Systems
 

roadtrasheer

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Blink, Nest, Zmoto have all worked for me in the past and now.

I'm getting a solar system in about a month. Off-grid here I come. The only wired system I'll rely on at that point is internet.
I was thinking solar . Dont trust the grid . What camera is the simplest to operate? I'm very mechanically inclined but a technology mongoloid.
 

TarHeelEer

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I was thinking solar . Dont trust the grid . What camera is the simplest to operate? I'm very mechanically inclined but a technology mongoloid.

I don't care for individual solar components. I'd go with a wired solution, but get a solar system for your entire structure. With the tax break, you can easily break even if you want to still be dependent on the grid. It's going to cost me some, I'm getting whole house battery backup. Those run about 15k each.
 

cam_blev

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These are some of the best on the market. I am not a proponent of solar or battery operated. Direct wire, POE is the best option. Takes more time, but the reliability is worth it.

SCW Security Systems
Is this self hosted or is it some cloud like solution like Ring, etc?


I want to set up a server and start self hosting all of my personal services.
 

cam_blev

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I want to keep surveillance footage but I don't want to store it with Amazon or any other cloud system that just hands the data over to government no questions asked. From my understanding in a lot of places (most?) police don't even have to have a warrant to get your ring footage from amazon.


If I set up a smart house I don't want any of those controls to go through a third party major tech company. I will just run my own server that can do these things for me.
 

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I want to keep surveillance footage but I don't want to store it with Amazon or any other cloud system that just hands the data over to government no questions asked. From my understanding in a lot of places (most?) police don't even have to have a warrant to get your ring footage from amazon.


If I set up a smart house I don't want any of those controls to go through a third party major tech company. I will just run my own server that can do these things for me.
It’s amazing how willingly we’ve turned over our privacy for security. You don’t need a ******* security camera or system. FFS.
 

TarHeelEer

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It’s amazing how willingly we’ve turned over our privacy for security. You don’t need a ******* security camera or system. FFS.

Right now about the only use for them I have is spotting wildlife real close to the house. SHTF, they're coming down.
 

Mntneer

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Going to be installing some cameras around my place .
What's a good option?
I'm thinking solar , but I can do direct wire if need be .
Any ideas?

We typically install a brand called Luma, but we've also worked with Lilin and Clare. Price ranges from a couple hundred per camera, to a thousand per camera. It all depends on a number of factors, such as the resolution of the camera and whether or not it has a varifocal lens. Varifocal lenses are very handy when it comes to installation as it allows you to "zoom" in and out of an image to better refine coverage area.

Always, always, always, when possible, hardwire your cameras. We run Cat6 to each camera location and power our cameras via POE. Solar option can work in a pinch, but be prepared for failing batteries or cameras not getting enough of a charge off the solar when the sun is not out.

Do NOT go with a cloud based system. They gobble up data and require solid upload speeds in order to be efficient. You have two options to record your data, either an NVR (Network Video Recorder) or installing SD cards in each camera and saving recordings to those. We do both when the client's budget allows. Recording to each camera means that the criminals would have to steal the camera in order to get to the recording. When the budget allows we always recommend an NVR, which in many simple installs can be used to provide the needed POE power for each camera.

Avoid Dome cameras and go for Turret or Bullet cameras if you plan on using IR lighting at night. In Dome cameras the slightest amount of dust can collect on the inside of the dome, which when illuminated by the IR light washes out the image, creating a smudged or smeared look. Turret cameras don't suffer from this nearly as badly. On the flip side, if you want real good IR lighting at night we typically recommend secondary IR lights to be installed around your property, and not rely on the IR lights within the cameras themselves.

I want to keep surveillance footage but I don't want to store it with Amazon or any other cloud system that just hands the data over to government no questions asked. From my understanding in a lot of places (most?) police don't even have to have a warrant to get your ring footage from amazon.


If I set up a smart house I don't want any of those controls to go through a third party major tech company. I will just run my own server that can do these things for me.

If you want a smart house then go with a reputable control company, like Control4. We carry both Control4 and Josh (a voice control system). Both are extremely secure and provide much better security than multiple systems hobbled together, systems that can leave opening or vulnerabilities.

It’s amazing how willingly we’ve turned over our privacy for security. You don’t need a ******* security camera or system. FFS.

We design all of our systems to be private first, especially considering many people in our area have **** for internet. That's why we start with networking first and work out from there. But far too often I've seen people go WAY overboard with wanting more cameras than they need and wanting more security sensors than they need. Got a client that wants every door and window covered, and he's got a TON of windows.
 

roadtrasheer

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We typically install a brand called Luma, but we've also worked with Lilin and Clare. Price ranges from a couple hundred per camera, to a thousand per camera. It all depends on a number of factors, such as the resolution of the camera and whether or not it has a varifocal lens. Varifocal lenses are very handy when it comes to installation as it allows you to "zoom" in and out of an image to better refine coverage area.

Always, always, always, when possible, hardwire your cameras. We run Cat6 to each camera location and power our cameras via POE. Solar option can work in a pinch, but be prepared for failing batteries or cameras not getting enough of a charge off the solar when the sun is not out.

Do NOT go with a cloud based system. They gobble up data and require solid upload speeds in order to be efficient. You have two options to record your data, either an NVR (Network Video Recorder) or installing SD cards in each camera and saving recordings to those. We do both when the client's budget allows. Recording to each camera means that the criminals would have to steal the camera in order to get to the recording. When the budget allows we always recommend an NVR, which in many simple installs can be used to provide the needed POE power for each camera.

Avoid Dome cameras and go for Turret or Bullet cameras if you plan on using IR lighting at night. In Dome cameras the slightest amount of dust can collect on the inside of the dome, which when illuminated by the IR light washes out the image, creating a smudged or smeared look. Turret cameras don't suffer from this nearly as badly. On the flip side, if you want real good IR lighting at night we typically recommend secondary IR lights to be installed around your property, and not rely on the IR lights within the cameras themselves.



If you want a smart house then go with a reputable control company, like Control4. We carry both Control4 and Josh (a voice control system). Both are extremely secure and provide much better security than multiple systems hobbled together, systems that can leave opening or vulnerabilities.



We design all of our systems to be private first, especially considering many people in our area have **** for internet. That's why we start with networking first and work out from there. But far too often I've seen people go WAY overboard with wanting more cameras than they need and wanting more security sensors than they need. Got a client that wants every door and window covered, and he's got a TON of windows.
Thanks .
 

roadtrasheer

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It’s amazing how willingly we’ve turned over our privacy for security. You don’t need a ******* security camera or system. FFS.
I'm wanting it for my shop that's 350 ' from the house & my pool .
Other than that my dogs take care of the house. Alert my crazy *** wife & **** will hit the fan .
 

cam_blev

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It’s amazing how willingly we’ve turned over our privacy for security. You don’t need a ******* security camera or system. FFS.
I run my business/bitcoin miners from my basement and those things aren't cheap. I'm the only one living in the house so if I'm ever not there I would like to be able to keep an eye on the place.

I like the features of the ring doorbells and cameras. I just don't want Amazon to have access to my stuff.