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DerHntr

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effect Sidney has truly had on the program over his tenure with MSU. A lot of folks say that he is the cancer of the team. Let's take if from the perspective of any of the other players who have been there since Sidney arrived. An example would be Dee Bost who has been here the entire time. During that time he has watched his coach allow or do the following:

1. Baby sit a very overweight and undertrained Sidney for one year and 9 games as he sat on the bench. The guy continued to gain weight the entire time.
2. During that time constantly talk about how Sidney was one of the absolute best bigs he had ever seen play instead of focusing the people who can play now.
3. Allowed Sid to remain on the team after what we know of were three fights. (if I remember correctly)
4. Sent Bailey packing and not Sidney after the Hawaii incident on national television.
5. Didn't make Sidney work out with the team for the summer.
6. Didn't make Sidney go to Europe. (unbelievable).
7. Personally worked out with Sidney doing p90x.Why the special treatment?
8. Allowed Sid to haveMoultrieKnee this season.
9. Doesn't pull him from the game when he literally walks down the court for defense over and over.
10. Constantly defends him in the press for what everyone else can easily see (I know that a coach should be doing this though).
11. I'm sure I have forgottensomething since there is so much drama about him to remember.

So you are in Bost's shoes or anyone else who has been there for all of this. Why in the world would you do what Rick tells you to do when it appears his focus is preoccupied on one guy who hasn't been able to put together a complete game of basketball thus far? I just think it would be very damn hard to be a leader on the team right now with Sidney on it as well. And Bost has been a captain for two years. It's not very surprising that Bost was an idiot about the NBA draft after a year of seeing the coach place his focus on a guy who is on the bench all year long.

I think that this team was donewhen Sidneydidn't make the Euro trip after a summer of working out elsewhere. The other guys on the team had to believe that it was just more of the same for another year at that point. Also, we had a new bigin Moultrie who hadn't even played with Sidney yet but he was very quickly introduced to how Sidney would be treated differently than anyone else on the team.

I'm not putting all the blame on Sidney. Rick shoulders most of it and should lose his job for it.
 

weblow

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I don't know if it was pictures of the hotdogs we gave him or what he had over Stans and the program but there was something substantial that kept him on this team, and it wasn't his effort or attitude.

This all falls on Stans but the team was never a team. Even the starters were treated differently from Sidney. The guy was absolutely a cancer to the team and his attitude led to where we are now. This is a problem on any sports team but it is the coaches responsibility to demand a certain attitude and work ethic and if that is not followed, there should be a punishment involved.

This entire basketball program is an abortion. Everything is done backwards and we are left with a head coach that has no real explanation for running it like a lunatic.
 

maroonmania

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Deville Smith attempted steal (granted bad play on his part) that left the GA player a wide open clear path to the basket for a layup. It was obvious on the replay that Sidney saw what happened with Deville but then immediately turned his head toward his own man almost seemingly to pretend like he DIDN'T see it I guess so he wouldn't have to put out the energy to run down the lane toward the basket and defend the play (he was located around the free throw line). Don't know if anyone else saw that but I thought there was no other singular play this season that any better demonstrated Sid's laziness.
 

shsdawg

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but we had attitude problems on the team long before Sid. Sid just took it to another level. We have had a bunch of mini Sids the last few years.
 

DerHntr

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People have said that Rick always had a couple of team leaders to make things happen. I believe that Shane Powers also said that in his article about the team. My thought is that I wouldn't give a crap about leading this team when one person is favored so heavily over the others.
 

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Renardo Sidney, Dontae Walker, Tommy Kelly, Kodi Augustus...probably in that order.

Walker and Kelly occurred late in The Kang's career, as did Sidney and Augustus didfor Stansbury. I think lazy players actually getting playing timemight just be an omen for predicting the trajectory of MSU coaching careers. I cantruthfully say I have never seen four lazier individualsANYWHERE take the field or court at any level, let alone for a Division I program. We are.........