Sellers Leaving or Staying?

[ThinnyJ]

He was great last year... No so much this year... NFL stock has certainly dropped I would think.

Do you think Beamer is using his staying to lure a good OC? I would think it attracts more up-and-comers, cause he has the potential to make them look good (look at last year and why Shula was retained).

If he stays, I'd think it would affect QB recruiting.

I just hope we don't have tons of guys flee to the portal... Maybe Beamer can pull a rabbit out of his hat with the portal himself this year?

I find myself feeling more and more like Sellers stays.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Hard to say. The Ole Miss game was his ugliest by far in his time here. Could be it was just the accumulation of a QB who has been on the run for the great majority of the year and the wheels finally falling off. If he can rebound and look ok in the final 3 games, I think scouts will be able to write that game off. If the Ole Miss game was indicative of his play down the stretch, I think his draft stock will fall tremendously.

Scouts aren't dumb, though. They know he hasn't been well-coached this year (heck, even the announcers were flatly calling us poorly coached) and that he has been victimized by the OL all season long.

If he stays, you can count on likely Noland transferring out. But we have Duckworth coming in (as of now).

 

[Lurker123]

He would be a good enticement for attracting an OC. If you want to make a splash, getting an athlete like that going would make your resume look really good.

As for going pro, there are people that still swear up and down that its a dine deal that he is leaving for the NFL. I thought last year was borderline, and that he would get drafted pretty much on his athleticism and strong arm. Its been done.

But as we've all seen, hes regressed badly this year. Maybe NFL teams think they can coach him up to his potential. But I imagine the high draft spots should be out of reach for him now.

If I had to guess, I'd say he leaves though.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

If I was advising Sellers, first thing I would ask him to do is get a feel of how many existing players are thinking about transferring out,
if it is in the range of 15+, then it would be in his best interest to seriously consider doing the same. Also, when a new OC is announced try to
find out everything you can about his style of offense, and will it fit the style of play you like.
Then make your decision based on the above. Remember young man, this is a very small window that could determine your future trajectory.

 

[Piscis]

No good OC is going to take a job so he can rehabilitate Sellers for one year. Sellers isn't that good of a qb and any competent OC can see that. I think Beamer is going to have to hire a hope and a prayer at OC. He needs to find a G5 OC who will make the move for the one year money and the resume boost. No good P4 OC is going to jump on the sinking ship that Carolina football currently is.

DCs have cracked the code on Sellers, Illinois figured him out and so has every team since them. If Sellers can go in the first two rounds, he should leave.

 

[Lurker123]

If I was advising Sellers, first thing I would ask him to do is get a feel of how many existing players are thinking about transferring out,
if it is in the range of 15+, then it would be in his best interest to seriously consider doing the same. Also, when a new OC is announced try to
find out everything you can about his style of offense, and will it fit the style of play you like.
Then make your decision based on the above. Remember young man, this is a very small window that could determine your future trajectory.

9ne other variable is what Piscis said.

What is his draft grade? If some NFL team wants to roll the dice on an early round with him? Take it and run.

 

[92Pony]

I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I'd be shocked if he were to be drafted after this season.

 

[Lurker123]

I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I'd be shocked if he were to be drafted after this season.

As much as certain poster was WAY off talking about Sellers being the best qb in this year's draft, he did have one point.

The NFL will reach sometimes on a qb with raw physical talent. He's probably out of the first round, but if he gets a 2nd or 3rd round grade? Based off being athletic and having a strong arm?

 

[treyno2722]

No good OC is going to take a job so he can rehabilitate Sellers for one year. Sellers isn't that good of a qb

I agree, he missed a wide open Faison and Jacobs on Saturday night.

 

[Forkcock]

I agree, he missed a wide open Faison and Jacobs on Saturday night.

The one to Jacobs was ridiculous.

 

[Hoganman1]

This is a very interesting topic. I have no idea what Sellers will do. Obviously, his draft stock has dropped and there are a lot of QBs that are more attractive that will be available at years end. Frankly, I'm really surprised he looks so different from the guy we saw last year. Of course the offensive line cannot seem to protect him but is our OL that much worse than say Vanderbilt's? Maybe they are and that's the problem. Anyway, before NIL jumping to the NFL was a slam dunk. Now the financial incentives are not as great. I hope he will stay. A lot depends on who we get to run our offense and who is advising him on his options. Who knows. Maybe playing one more year with his little brother is part of the decision.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If he's first 2 rounds, he'll go. And I'm sure he still is. No matter what, he's playing for a new OC next year. Here, at another school or in the NFL.

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

This season has been a disaster, this isn't just about Ole Miss. He is missing open receivers, holding onto the ball, fumbling in key situations... I can't imagine a world where he leaves for the NFL.

 

[Piscis]

The blush is off the rose with Sellers. He was a one hit wonder last season when opposing DCs didn't really know about him. He was a 3 star recruit and he looks like a 3 star player now. He is a poor passer and doesn't appear to be too bright when it comes to processing what is going on around him and what to do to avoid a disaster. Sellers should transfer to another P4 team and become a running back.

Rattler was a real qb, the difference in Rattler and Sellers is like the difference in real crab and krab.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The blush is off the rose with Sellers. He was a one hit wonder last season when opposing DCs didn't really know about him. He was a 3 star recruit and he looks like a 3 star player now. He is a poor passer and doesn't appear to be too bright when it comes to processing what is going on around him and what to do to avoid a disaster. Sellers should transfer to another P4 team and become a running back.

Rattler was a real qb, the difference in Rattler and Sellers is like the difference in real crab and krab.

Harsh but funny, and maybe true.

I just can't help but wonder how much of a role coaching played in Sellers' regression. He was absolutely dynamic in our final 5 regular season games last year. Shula took over for the bowl game and he's been pedestrian (or worse) ever since. The contrast from the Clemson game to the bowl game was remarkable. Like a flip was switched. Some of that, as you suggest, I chalk up to opposing coaches having a better game plan for him. Even so, he's just been shell of the player he was the 2nd half of last year and it directly coincides with Shula taking over.

Can one coach single-handedly destroy such a talented player?

 

[Lurker123]

Like a flip was switched.

Or a switch was flipped.

 

[HI Cock1]

The one thing that would make him stay would be to play with his brother for another year. Jayden has really come on this year despite all the talent in the WR room (some of them will portal out for sure), so if Jayden stays, Sellers will, too.

And some of that will depend on the OC hire.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

The one thing that would make him stay would be to play with his brother for another year. Jayden has really come on this year despite all the talent in the WR room (some of them will portal out for sure), so if Jayden stays, Sellers will, too.

And some of that will depend on the OC hire.

Jayden might just follow where LaNorris goes.

 

[Ole Cockeye]

If Sellers or any other player is considering leaving, they should consider the possibility that they were the problem this year, not the coaches or the program.

 

[I4CtheFuture]

IMHO, he needs to stay. He's clearly not ready for the NFL and if he leaves for another program, he'll just be viewed as quitting on his team. A team where he was the #1 guy. Not a good look.

 

[Lurker123]

IMHO, he needs to stay. He's clearly not ready for the NFL and if he leaves for another program, he'll just be viewed as quitting on his team. A team where he was the #1 guy. Not a good look.

The NFL has picked guys that flat out quit on their team for bowls. I dont think they necessarily view the portal as quitting on the team the way we do.

 

[Cockofdawn]

I would have bet my Life Savings he would leave with a 1/2 way decent Season, i fill he may want to redeem himself next year, either here or elsewhere. So leaving SC possible, leaving college football, IMO nope

 

[Piscis]

Harsh but funny, and maybe true.

I just can't help but wonder how much of a role coaching played in Sellers' regression. He was absolutely dynamic in our final 5 regular season games last year. Shula took over for the bowl game and he's been pedestrian (or worse) ever since. The contrast from the Clemson game to the bowl game was remarkable. Like a flip was switched. Some of that, as you suggest, I chalk up to opposing coaches having a better game plan for him. Even so, he's just been shell of the player he was the 2nd half of last year and it directly coincides with Shula taking over.

Can one coach single-handedly destroy such a talented player?

I think he has struggled with dealing with other teams defense scheming to stop him from taking off and running for big gains. When he feels pressure and the primary receiver isn't there, his default setting is to pull the ball down and run. Last season, he had open field to work with. This season, he looks up and a LB or safety or some other player is waiting for him to run and I think he freezes up. When the easy scramble for yards isn't there, he does the spin/retreat/run around to buy time and ends up being sacked or running out of bounds for a loss.

Illinois was the first defense who dedicated a spy to him and they shut him down. Other DCs watched that tape and knew how to contain him.

 

[HI Cock1]

Illinois was the first defense who dedicated a spy to him and they shut him down. Other DCs watched that tape and knew how to contain him.

This isn't really true. Illinois certainly put a spy on him, but if you compare the tape, it was clear that Sellers was direction to stay in the pocket and go through progressions. They also didn't call plays specifically for him to run. The game plan changed after DLog left.

With that said, Sellers wasn't a great passer last year and he didn't get any better this year. That's the development we would have liked to see. His % isn't terrible, but he doesn't pass the eye test - as a passer or a decision maker. A lot of that is on the OL/scheme/OC. Shula was trying to force a pro-style offense on the not-pro OL with a raw QB.