Selmon said the quiet part out loud ….

[Shmuley]

From the Chris Low article:

“I always think of … pre Dak and post Dak, because after that run we had with him in 2014 and 2015, most schools would have doubled down on their football investment,” Selmon said. “We didn’t. Our season ticket sales started really dipping right after Dak. There was mostly investment with the baseball program. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s probably not the best economic decision for the totality of the department…..

So we’ve had to really try to make up a lot of ground as far as investing in football, and that’s what we’ll have to continue to do at warp speed.” - Zac Selmon

 

[Ranchdawg]

The truth for the most part. We did invest in a coach and unfortunately he passed. We decided to go low with Arnett and we are digging out of a hole now.

 

[patdog]

We are our own worst enemy.

 

[curseddawgs]

He could have also said that we hired the least qualified AD in the SEC in 2016

 

[ETK99]

He took over a poop show

 

[Dawgg]

The truth for the most part. We did invest in a coach and unfortunately he passed. We decided to go low with Arnett and we are digging out of a hole now.

We didn’t invest in the initial coach. Gotta remember that we didn’t go straight from Mullen to Leach. We had maybe our most talented team in a generation coached by Moorhead.

 

[40 acres and a mule]

I don't see how anyone can argue with what he said. Cohen massively overspent on baseball, while the sport that pays for everything was basically ignored. My opinion of Selmon is now much improved.

 

[patdog]

I don't see how anyone can argue with what he said. Cohen massively overspent on baseball., while the sport that pays for everything was basically ignored. My opinion of Selmon is now much improved.

And we all wondered why Mullen wanted out so bad. Honestly, I don’t blame him.

 

[Dawgg]

I mean… he’s not wrong. We were on the greatest run in the history of Mississippi State football and we have totally pissed that away. We’re back to where we were in the late 80’s and early 2000’s and one multi-score win over Southern Miss isn’t going to erase that feeling.

That being said, we won the school’s first national championship with baseball. Did we need a brand new stadium and facilities to do that? I dunno, but we got them and we got a natty. I don’t know that I would trade the baseball national championship for an appearance in the BBVA Compass Bowl, even if that’s a net loss financially for the school.

 

[Drebin]

The truth for the most part. We did invest in a coach and unfortunately he passed. We decided to go low with Arnett and we are digging out of a hole now.

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

 

[8dog]

Someone is gonna be getting a call from an Auburn and a Gainesville area code today.

 

[8dog]

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

Yeah he was gonna retire anyway with NIL and portal. He had no time for that.

 

[retire the banner]

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

This is what I’ve been saying since the moment Cohen passed on Sark and hired Leach. An all time Cohen moment, completely overthought the hire.

 

[pseudonym]

This goes against the theory that hiring O’Connor means we’re punting on football.

 

[Xenomorph]

From the Chris Low article:

“I always think of … pre Dak and post Dak, because after that run we had with him in 2014 and 2015, most schools would have doubled down on their football investment,” Selmon said. “We didn’t. Our season ticket sales started really dipping right after Dak. There was mostly investment with the baseball program. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s probably not the best economic decision for the totality of the department…..

So we’ve had to really try to make up a lot of ground as far as investing in football, and that’s what we’ll have to continue to do at warp speed.” - Zac Selmon

“Hey, Norman… this schitt here ain’t my fault!”

 

[Faustdog]

From the Chris Low article:

“I always think of … pre Dak and post Dak, because after that run we had with him in 2014 and 2015, most schools would have doubled down on their football investment,” Selmon said. “We didn’t. Our season ticket sales started really dipping right after Dak. There was mostly investment with the baseball program. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s probably not the best economic decision for the totality of the department…..

So we’ve had to really try to make up a lot of ground as far as investing in football, and that’s what we’ll have to continue to do at warp speed.” - Zac Selmon

Love that he came out and said it.

My theory that we foisted Cohen on Auburn is looking better and better.

 

[retire the banner]

This goes against the theory that hiring O’Connor means we’re punting on football.

Which no one with a brain ever believed we were planning to sacrifice one sport for another because “we are too poor”. That was a theory driven by the usual dorks on here. Selmon is doing his best to rip apart the poor old State mindset that too many fans have.

 

[Xenomorph]

Someone is gonna be getting a call from an Auburn and a Gainesville area code today.

You know Loafers still has a personal cell with a Starkville number. He’ll call from that one to trick Selmon into answering.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

We took the success with Dak and made a natty in baseball. I dont believe for a single second that we would have won a natty in foosball in that same time if we'd put the effort in baseball over to the sport played in dws.

Not apologizing for ib. Just that the game has moved above the table for the most part since then. We were still busy self reporting nonsense.

 

[40 acres and a mule]

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

Leach was personally popular, which made the hire almost impossible to criticize, and took much of the heat off Cohen from the Moorhead hire. We hired him about 15 years past his prime. Leach should had been hired when we hired Croom.

 

[85Bears]

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

Yea what a horrible hire, just a gimmick. i Mean with our blue chip tradition, hall of famers are a Dime a dozen.

 

[HailStout]

I suspect selmon just became a lot more popular to a lot of our fans

 

[retire the banner]

Yea what a horrible hire, just a gimmick. i Mean with our blue chip tradition, hall of famers are a Dime a dozen.

You sound mad because everyone is waking up to what I’ve been saying for two years. The only difference is, it was very unpopular when I said it.

 

[85Bears]

You sound mad because everyone is waking up to what I’ve been saying for two years. The only difference is, it was very unpopular when I said it.

Yes, everyone is waking up to the fact Mike Leach was a bad coach, lol

sorry Leach was late to press inferences and coughed a lot , you can’t seem to get over it.

 

[tc9698]

Leach wasn't an investment. Leach was a gimmick. Yeah, he passed early on us and it was unfortunate. But he wasn't going to be a long termer any way you look at it. He wasn't a program builder here. He was a quick fix, and with the benefit of hindsight, it wasn't a smart hire.

There is a large portion of the fanbase that does not want to hear this but it is 1000% the truth. Nothing against Mike Leach, but that was not the right hire for Mississippi State.

 

[retire the banner]

Yes, everyone is waking up to the fact Mike Leach was a bad coach, lol

sorry Leach was late to press inferences and coughed a lot , you can’t seem to get over it.

You still don’t get it. Sounds like you never will.

 

[retire the banner]

There is a large portion of the fanbase that does not want to hear this but it is 1000% the truth. Nothing against Mike Leach, but that was not the right hire for Mississippi State.

Man where were all of you guys the last two years when I was getting shredded for saying this?

 

[Drebin]

Yes, everyone is waking up to the fact Mike Leach was a bad coach, lol

sorry Leach was late to press inferences and coughed a lot , you can’t seem to get over it.

Nobody said he was a bad coach. Nobody said anything about his personal habits.

this is the problem with so many of you message board warriors. You're incapable of critical thought.

 

[campshelbydog1116]

Cohen is the worst hire this school has ever made for anything ever. Gross incompetence. A lot of people have been saying this about baseball for a long time.

 

[85Bears]

Nobody said he was a bad coach. Nobody said anything about his personal habits.

this is the problem with so many of you message board warriors. You're incapable of critical thought.

No you are conflating cohen with the man he hired. If you think Mike Leach is nothing more than a gimmick , you lack understanding of football.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

You sound mad because everyone is waking up to what I’ve been saying for two years. The only difference is, it was very unpopular when I said it.

If there’s a Mike Leach thread, 85Bears and Goat will be here within seconds.

 

[Drebin]

There is a large portion of the fanbase that does not want to hear this but it is 1000% the truth. Nothing against Mike Leach, but that was not the right hire for Mississippi State.

Yes, it's not a criticism of Leach. There were some fun times in there.

It was a disastrous decision by Cohen though. He took the easy way out and got a cheap pop out of it. Then he left us holding the bag.

 

[Drebin]

No you are conflating cohen with the man he hired. If you think Mike Leach is nothing more than a gimmick , you lack understanding of football.

He was a gimmick. A lazy hire. A "quick fix" if you will. It wasn't a strategic hire. It wasn't a decision intended to set Mississippi State football up for a sustained period. It was a quick fix from Cohen to try and get the Moorhead heat off himself.

The fact that you can't understand this now, after seeing the state of our program talent-wise post Leach, is really telling. You shouldn't be criticizing anyone else's understanding of football.

 

[85Bears]

Yes, it's not a criticism of Leach. There were some fun times in there.

It was a disastrous decision by Cohen though. He took the easy way out and got a cheap pop out of it. Then he left us holding the bag.

I’ll agree with you on one thing, Leach taking this job is the worst career decision he ever made. now that Leach has been gone three years, we should be 9-4 or better in no time, since he was such a disaster*

 

[Drebin]

I’ll agree with you on one thing, Leach taking this job is the worst career decision he ever made. now that Leach has been gone three years, we should be 9-4 or better in no time, since he was such a disaster

It sounds like you're agreeing with yourself because I didn't say that.

You're not very good at this.

 

[85Bears]

It sounds like you're agreeing with yourself because I didn't say that.

You're not very good at this.

whats Happening here is Cohen is being blamed for The demise of the football program , so by extension Mike Leach as his hire is being thrown under the bus. that’s a fallacy, but it’s something that was laid at Leach’s feet the whole time he was here, and very unfairly.

You can call out Cohen without gratuitously bashing Leach as a gimmick and a bad hire, that’s complete BS. The results since his passing and for the foreseeable future demonstrate this.

 

[retire the banner]

whats Happening here is Cohen is being blamed for The demise of the football program , so by extension Mike Leach as his hire is being thrown under the bus. that’s a fallacy, but it’s something that was laid at Leach’s feet the whole time he was here, and very unfairly.

You can call out Cohen without gratuitously bashing Leach as a gimmick and a bad hire, that’s complete BS. The results since his passing and for the foreseeable future demonstrate this.

I don’t think anyone is saying Leach is a bad coach. It was the wrong coach at the wrong time. 60 year old Leach in 2020 in the era of NIL & transfer portal was not the right hire for Mississippi State. 2000s Texas Tech Leach was a different person, in a different era of CFB, that was more suited for him.

 

[Drebin]

whats Happening here is Cohen is being blamed for The demise of the football program , so by extension Mike Leach as his hire is being thrown under the bus. that’s a fallacy, but it’s something that was laid at Leach’s feet the whole time he was here, and very unfairly.

You can call out Cohen without gratuitously bashing Leach as a gimmick and a bad hire, that’s complete BS. The results since his passing and for the foreseeable future demonstrate this.

The results since his passing prove it was a gimmick. We were devoid of talent because he was a horrible recruiter. He wanted a certain type of OL, a certain type of QB, a certain type of WR, and had no interest in defense. And when he died, there was nobody who could step in and coach those certain types of players a certain type of way, and we were devoid of talent, particularly defensive talent - a void we're still trying to dig our way out of.

Start reading instead of emoting like a 10 year old girl, and maybe you'll learn something.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

If there’s a Mike Leach thread, 85Bears and Goat will be here within seconds.

like knats on a dogs butthole

 

[85Bears]

He was a gimmick. A lazy hire. A "quick fix" if you will. It wasn't a strategic hire. It wasn't a decision intended to set Mississippi State football up for a sustained period. It was a quick fix from Cohen to try and get the Moorhead heat off himself.

The fact that you can't understand this now, after seeing the state of our program talent-wise post Leach, is really telling. You shouldn't be criticizing anyone else's understanding of football.

The results since his passing prove it was a gimmick. We were devoid of talent because he was a horrible recruiter. He wanted a certain type of OL, a certain type of QB, a certain type of WR, and had no interest in defense. And when he died, there was nobody who could step in and coach those certain types of players a certain type of way, and we were devoid of talent, particularly defensive talent - a void we're still trying to dig our way out of.

Start reading instead of emoting like a 10 year old girl, and maybe you'll learn something.

So, now you are blaming the current results on the field on Mike Leachs recruiting ?

There is something called the transfer portal where teams overturn their roster in one season now, that argument is not going to fly.

The lack of nil funds at this program has nothing to do with Leach, it just knee capped him, but he won anyway.

you fail to mention Arnett nuking the progrm with our good ol boy boosters, very convenient.

you have reverted to your genespage ways, sorry to see. it’s a dishonest view.