send Cohen packing....

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
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First off, unless Cohen turns in a performance like 2015, I think he's probably safe.

Secondly, if Cohen does **** the bed, it's going to leave a lot of people scratching their heads. He was successful prior to MSU, he's got facilities, he's pulled in talent. Not sure where the weak link would be.
 

rugbdawg

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Oct 10, 2006
5,251
0
0
I think your second point is questionable. He is

unproven at the SEC level. He did win the SEC championship one year at Kentucky...but his other years were mediocre. His SEC winning percentage at UK was .426. At Msstate, his SEC winning percentage has been .418. His time at Msstate is VERY comparable to his time at UK. One year of bottled lightning surrounded by mediocre years. Cohen has consistently been a mediocre coach. I DO realize he built the UK program.
 

rugbdawg

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Oct 10, 2006
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Added: In the 6 years at UK since Cohen left, they have had a 43 percent SEC winning percentage...
 

rugbdawg

Redshirt
Oct 10, 2006
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All of this doesn't matter of course. He has the talent to get it done this year. If he doesn't, he is gone. Him being an ******* is not what holds him back. It is his constant meddling with the lineup and philosophy with bunting/hitting. Baseball is a mental game and I have never seen a coach at any level screw more with the lineup than Cohen. It's insanity.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
You'll have to leave off his first two years at MSU when talking about his performance. There isn't anything to be learned from those seasons.
 

Bulldogg31

Redshirt
Dec 9, 2013
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I'll Be honest, I'm tired of looking at the guy and listening to his post game wonderings. Enough already.
 

rugbdawg

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Oct 10, 2006
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Then take away John's UK first two years. He won 14 SEC games at UK in the first two years. He won 15 SEC games at MSU his first two years. Got anything else?
 

BoDawg.sixpack

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2010
5,982
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He is sort of the opposite of Dan in my view

Good recruiter, not so good at developing talent, and can't put together a consistent lineup or game plan. MSU baseball deserves better than this after seven years of Cohen ball.
 

57stratdawg

Heisman
Dec 1, 2004
148,782
24,668
113
So, if we take out his first two years at MSU, he's got 5 post season appearances in 6 years, two Supers, one CWS, and a .500 SEC record.

Thats pretty solid.
 

Joe Schmedlap

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Aug 11, 2010
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You'll have to leave off his first two years at MSU when talking about his performance. There isn't anything to be learned from those seasons.

That is definitely true. Last year's crapfest though...

Cohen in my book had been successful everywhere and at every level from player to head coach before he was hired at State. I thought he was a can't miss project, a home run hire. Now it is puzzling to see our program struggle so badly for so long under J.C.'s direction. That home run hire has become a failed sacrifice bunt year in and year out. I hope the team does well this year, and they might be solid. One cannot judge an entire upcoming season on the opening weekend. There is little room for error for Cohen ball though at this point of his tenure. It is put up or shut up time. Must stop doing less with more game in and game out. This is going to be a very interesting season at Dudy Noble Field.
 

121Josey

Redshirt
Oct 30, 2012
7,503
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So, if we take out his first two years at MSU, he's got 5 post season appearances in 6 years, two Supers, one CWS, and a .500 SEC record.

Thats pretty solid.

Solid, yes. But the 1 of 6 came last year and it was the opposite achievement of the CWS run. If he doesn't make post-season this season, 2 of 6 is stronger than 4 of 6 given what he has to work with.

One of the Supers should be assimilated into the CWS run.
 

Carbaryl

Redshirt
Aug 15, 2013
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Cohen is the guy if you want to stay at Polk #2 levels and nothing really wrong with that if that is your goal.If you want to take the next step then Cohen is not your guy.In year eight you know what you have and what you see out of Cohen is what he's always going to be.
 

preacher_dawg

All-Conference
Nov 12, 2014
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If we do fire him, can we hire him as recruiting coordinator for football. Just joking (a liitle).
 

ronpolk

All-American
May 6, 2009
9,455
5,481
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All of this doesn't matter of course. He has the talent to get it done this year. If he doesn't, he is gone. Him being an ******* is not what holds him back. It is his constant meddling with the lineup and philosophy with bunting/hitting. Baseball is a mental game and I have never seen a coach at any level screw more with the lineup than Cohen. It's insanity.

I don't know if this has ever happened but I agree with you. Getting talent is not his problem it's putting the talent in the right spot and sticking with it. You got all of fall and a good bit in the spring to figure out your best 8 position players. It shouldn't take a new lineup in every game.
 

preacher_dawg

All-Conference
Nov 12, 2014
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Nope, i have enough trouble with my sinful tongue here on SPS. I couldn't take elitedawgs.
 
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