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I find them entertaining yet boring and childish. Kind of like how one can’t not watch a train wreck :D
You are correct that it is the same antics every post - insult, attack, arrogance without basis, post a bunch of links to others work that are 64 paragraphs long so he looks smart because of the volume but he is just citing someone else’s work and thoughts and nobody reads it because it is too long and boring.

What do they say the definition of a genius is - one who is able to reduce the complicated to the simple. Here we have just the opposite - taking the simple and trying to sound smart. Shows me someone who is as another poster put it “has some serious social disorders” and it is extremely evident by the fact they easily post 50+ times a day which means they have nothing else to do rather than work, family..., they use multiple probably 2 dozen screen names) citing the fact that Rivals does not allow more than a certain number of posts for newcomers, yet rather than wait to get past that phase this person (who seemingly has multiple personalities to match the same number of screen names) just keeps making up names and even copies other posters names for his alts. Tell me that is normal. Maybe someone should let the mods know that he is having trouble getting enough posts in, and maybe they can help consolidate them into one or maybe none once they catch on to the lack of email and number or alts on the screen name. [winking]
So this liberal, beta male, cuck created an account to respond to a tennis thread? [roll]
 

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I find them entertaining yet boring and childish. Kind of like how one can’t not watch a train wreck :D
You are correct that it is the same antics every post - insult, attack, arrogance without basis, post a bunch of links to others work that are 64 paragraphs long so he looks smart because of the volume but he is just citing someone else’s work and thoughts and nobody reads it because it is too long and boring.

What do they say the definition of a genius is - one who is able to reduce the complicated to the simple. Here we have just the opposite - taking the simple and trying to sound smart. Shows me someone who is as another poster put it “has some serious social disorders” and it is extremely evident by the fact they easily post 50+ times a day which means they have nothing else to do rather than work, family..., they use multiple probably 2 dozen screen names) citing the fact that Rivals does not allow more than a certain number of posts for newcomers, yet rather than wait to get past that phase this person (who seemingly has multiple personalities to match the same number of screen names) just keeps making up names and even copies other posters names for his alts. Tell me that is normal. Maybe someone should let the mods know that he is having trouble getting enough posts in, and maybe they can help consolidate them into one or maybe none once they catch on to the lack of email and number or alts on the screen name. [winking]

I agree with everything you said, except I don't find his posts entertaining. I quit reading his rambling, bipolar, manic phase ******** last week.
 
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Now you want to play dumb after you are caught disparaging people who work for McD’s and Uber. Everyone knows you were implying that someone who works at these places is not smart enough to understand high level mathematics - don’t have to be Archimedes to know that.

While working at those places is not seen in society as being “worthy” at least it is an honest wage. My dad who was fortunate to make a very good living and retired in his 40’s as a pilot always taught us it was better to be honest and make a clean living than to cheat or do something illegal. You can backtrack all you want but everyone can read what you posted and make their own conclusions, and nothing about your statement was flattering to those workers and you chose them for a reason. Now you are not only arrogant but also a liar, but everyone on here knew that already. Just don’t know screen name/personality to tell it to. Pick name and lane already or we can help do it for you. [roll]
Who is playing dumb? You obviously can't quote where I said these things. I can't help how you interpret things man. That is all on you and your upbringing more than likely. They are honest jobs that provide a good service. They obviously don't pay great and probably would not be ideal jobs to support a family on, but I think nothing less of someone who does them; unlike yourself it appears. I sure as **** don't think it devalues a persons worth. Good lord, what kind of person are you base someones worth on the job they have. That's pathetic!

Who's been advocating for cheating or illegal activities to make a living?
I just simply stated a person working the cash register at McDonald's or an Uber driver isn't likely to be a mathematician or very experienced in math. The registers do the math and in most cases count the change for you. Uber does it all, you don't even handle cash. People with advanced math degrees or abilities are in strong demand in some really good, high paying industries. I highly doubt they would want to work in a lower wage/income industry, when they could likely get a much higher paying job with less negatives. Again, your inability to comprehend without assuming your own degrading thoughts are on you.
 
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In all rankings? No, of course not. However, I do put a lot of faith into accurate polling that considers many factors and most accurately looks at the issued based on testing or per capita numbers. For instance, with your example I would not put much faith into because it demonstrates a couple of biases and doesn’t consider the other factors and forms of healthcare.

Transparency International commissioned the University of Passau's Johann Graf Lambsdorff to produce the CPI.

The 2012 CPI takes into account 16 different surveys and assessments from 12 different institutions. The 13 surveys/assessments are either business people opinion surveys or performance assessments from a group of analysts. Early CPIs used public opinion surveys. The institutions are:

· African Development Bank (based in Ivory Coast)

· Bertelsmann Foundation (based in Germany)

· Economist Intelligence Unit (based in UK)

· Freedom House (based in US)

· Global Insight (based in US)

· International Institute for Management Development (based in Switzerland)

· Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (based in Hong Kong)

· The PRS Group, Inc., (based in US)

· World Economic Forum

· World Bank

· World Justice Project(based in US)

Countries need to be evaluated by at least three sources to appear in the CPI. The CPI measures perception of corruption due to the difficulty of measuring absolute levels of corruption.

Validity

A study published in 2002 found a "very strong significant correlation" between the Corruption Perceptions Index and two other proxies for corruption: black market activity and overabundance of regulation.

All three metrics also had a highly significant correlation with real gross domestic product per capita (RGDP/Cap); the Corruption Perceptions Index correlation with RGDP/Cap was the strongest, explaining over three fourths of the variance. (Note that a lower index on this scale reflects greater corruption, so that countries with higher RGDPs generally had less corruption.)

It sure does seem like it would be an accurate measure. Over a 3rd of the institutions used to measure were in the US. Doesn’t seem to indicate to much a of a bias. Of all the countries, I would agree it’s not too bad, especially considering where we rank in other areas. However, it doesn’t indicate we are the best or even top 10.


Poverty level is measured per capita of the overall population and based of each countries level of poverty. Of course, US poverty level is higher than a lot of others, but that is because the US is a developed nation, so the average wage and cost of living is higher than most. Why is that a horrible measure? Also, this ranking is based off the Purchasing Power Parity, off GDP (PPP), instead of just the nominal GDP rate which if far less accurate. GDP comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than those using nominal GDP when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income. No one is questioning that poorer people in poorer nations don’t have it even worse, but that doesn’t change that fact that per capita we have an incredibly high poverty rate among developed countries. That’s embarrassing and definitely not indicative of the best country in the world.


World’s largest economy? Really? You may want to look that up. China has the world’s largest economy, unless of course you are strictly looking at GDP, which would demonstrate a bias that you were speaking of earlier. Again, GDP comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than those using nominal GDP when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income. among countries. PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index. These surveys such as the International Comparison Program include both tradable and non-tradable goods in an attempt to estimate a representative basket of all goods. However, I must ask you, why would economy dictate energy usage for you. Wouldn’t energy usage be more accurately measure by population. China, who also has a larger economy has 4 times as many people in the use to use energy. As does India. How in the world do you think its rationale that 4.28% of the global populations utilizes over 25% of its energy strictly based on economy?

Again, there are 180+ democracies in the world and most all have the same or similar freedoms to you. Why is crime and gun violence so much greater here than in those counties, regardless of measurement utilized?

I know you won’t address them, because you can’t. That would involve you having to see the truth.

I know you and others don’t care because it goes against what you have been taught and choose to believe. However, no facts prove we are the greatest country on earth. Most every country thinks they are the greatest. Even the North Koreans believe they are the greatest. It’s what has been ingrained in you all since you were children and it’s easier to believe that than to accept the facts that it’s not. When presented with facts, you simply shun them by saying they are inaccurate without any evidence as to why, or just simply say you don’t care or believe them. I, nor anyone else can make you accept something you refuse to accept, but facts remain, we are far from the greatest country in the world.


Just curious, what do you think makes the US the greatest country in the world?
I never said the corruption rankings were biased. I said they are BS. They are basically saying that perception is reality when it comes to corruption. Do you really buy into the validity of that premise? You parrot what they claim as proof of their analysis, but you fail to apply any logical questions to what you are reading. Since actual corruption rates in each country can't be measured, they have to rely on assumptions in order to measure it. In the statistics they cite, they are making a huge assumption that black market activity and government regulation are the primary signs of corruption. If you are arguing that this country has way too many Government regulations and that Government has grown much too large, then I agree wholeheartedly. Aside from that, they will have to prove to me that correlation with those two factors are a good measure of actual corruption in a society. There is no data supporting that assumption. Also, I can find lots of things that are correlated with other things, but it doesn't mean there is causal relationship between the two. Any measure of actual corruption by country is speculative at best. In spite of that, we performed quite well in this particular piece of hokum.

The poverty rankings I have seen compare percent of people who make half or less of the average income in a country. They are not based on relative standards of living. In other words, they are not picking a specific standard of living for what constitutes poverty and then applying that standard to each country. They are assuming that anyone who falls into the category of half the average income or less has a very poor standard of living and is therefore living in poverty. That might be true in countries that have very low average incomes, but it might not be true of countries with higher average income. If you have seen a study that bases the poverty percent on a specific standard of living, then I would love to read it. Not to prove you right or wrong, but simply because I enjoy reading those kinds of things.

If you can't understand that industry consumes large quantities of BTUs, I'm not sure what to tell you. I would expect larger economies to use higher amounts of energy than countries with very little industrial base. You said the USA uses 13 times what china uses. That is completely false. China consumes more BTU's than any country on earth. In 2013, that last year I could find data for, China used 133,200 trillion BTU's of energy, or 22% of the world's consumption of energy. 65% from coal. The USA used 89,920 trillion BTU's of energy, or 20%. The energy consumption of a country will be driven by population, how developed the country is, and how much industry it has.

If you want to get right down to it, the relative size of an economy should be measured on a per capita basis. That's the only thing that takes population differences out of the equation. I have not seen a single measure that puts China remotely close to us on GDP at PPP on a per capita basis. What that tells you is that China still has a lot of room to grow and should pass us by any measure in overall size.

Please show me the democracies that have more rights than we do. I would also love to hear why you think we have more gun violence than they do. I told you why I think we do already. Let's hear why you think we do.
 
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I never said the corruption rankings were biased. I said they are BS. They are basically saying that perception is reality when it comes to corruption. Do you really buy into the validity of that premise? You parrot what they claim as proof of their analysis, but you fail to apply any logical questions to what you are reading. Since actual corruption rates in each country can't be measured, they have to rely on assumptions in order to measure it. In the statistics they cite, they are making a huge assumption that black market activity and government regulation are the primary signs of corruption. If you are arguing that this country has way too many Government regulations and that Government has grown much too large, then I agree wholeheartedly. Aside from that, they will have to prove to me that correlation with those two factors are a good measure of actual corruption in a society. There is no data supporting that assumption. Also, I can find lots of things that are correlated with other things, but it doesn't mean there is causal relationship between the two. Any measure of actual corruption by country is speculative at best. In spite of that, we performed quite well in this particular piece of hokum.

The poverty rankings I have seen compare percent of people who make half or less of the average income in a country. They are not based on relative standards of living. In other words, they are not picking a specific standard of living for what constitutes poverty and then applying that standard to each country. They are assuming that anyone who falls into the category of half the average income or less has a very poor standard of living and is therefore living in poverty. That might be true in countries that have very low average incomes, but it might not be true of countries with higher average income. If you have seen a study that bases the poverty percent on a specific standard of living, then I would love to read it. Not to prove you right or wrong, but simply because I enjoy reading those kinds of things.

If you can't understand that industry consumes large quantities of BTUs, I'm not sure what to tell you. I would expect larger economies to use higher amounts of energy than countries with very little industrial base. You said the USA uses 13 times what china uses. That is completely false. China consumes more BTU's than any country on earth. In 2013, that last year I could find data for, China used 133,200 trillion BTU's of energy, or 22% of the world's consumption of energy. 65% from coal. The USA used 89,920 trillion BTU's of energy, or 20%. The energy consumption of a country will be driven by population, how developed the country is, and how much industry it has.

If you want to get right down to it, the relative size of an economy should be measured on a per capita basis. That's the only thing that takes population differences out of the equation. I have not seen a single measure that puts China remotely close to us on GDP at PPP on a per capita basis. What that tells you is that China still has a lot of room to grow and should pass us by any measure in overall size.

Please show me the democracies that have more rights than we do. I would also love to hear why you think we have more gun violence than they do. I told you why I think we do already. Let's hear why you think we do.
Who said you called it a bias? I just pointed out a bias did not exist. In your initial statement you referenced your Healthcare example of being bias, so I just wanted to point out the lack of bias in mine.

No, they are not. Did you not read it? They note that it isn’t an exact measure because they would be near impossible to evaluate.

They state the 2012 CPI takes into account 16 different surveys and assessments from 12 different institutions. The 13 surveys/assessments are either business people opinion surveys or performance assessments from a group of analysts. Early CPIs used public opinion surveys. The institutions are:

· African Development Bank (based in Ivory Coast)

· Bertelsmann Foundation (based in Germany)

· Economist Intelligence Unit (based in UK)

· Freedom House (based in US)

· Global Insight (based in US)

· International Institute for Management Development (based in Switzerland)

· Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (based in Hong Kong)

· The PRS Group, Inc., (based in US)

· World Economic Forum

· World Bank

· World Justice Project(based in US)

Countries need to be evaluated by at least three sources to appear in the CPI. The CPI measures perception of corruption due to the difficulty of measuring absolute levels of corruption.

A study published in 2002 found a "very strong significant correlation" between the Corruption Perceptions Index and two other proxies for corruption: black market activity and overabundance of regulation.

All three metrics also had a highly significant correlation with real gross domestic product per capita (RGDP/Cap); the Corruption Perceptions Index correlation with RGDP/Cap was the strongest, explaining over three fourths of the variance.
(Note that a lower index on this scale reflects greater corruption, so that countries with higher RGDPs generally had less corruption.)

No one is arguing it is exact but insinuating it as BS is ridiculous. They Measure using 16 different surveys and assessment utilizing 12 institutions globally. A 3rd of which are in the US. Each country has to be evaluated by at least 3 sources to even appear on the CPI. They aren’t just considering the black-market and overabundance of regulations. They are factoring those in because study show a very high level of correlations RDP per capita. Again, please explain how this would be inaccurate. These aren’t assumptions. They are facts.


I don’t know what you have seen, but what posted was measured per capita of the overall population and based of each countries level of poverty. Of course, US poverty level is higher than a lot of others, but that is because the US is a developed nation, so the average wage and cost of living is higher than most. Why is that a horrible measure? Also, this ranking is based off the Purchasing Power Parity, off GDP (PPP), instead of just the nominal GDP rate which if far less accurate. GDP comparisons using PPP are arguably more useful than those using nominal GDP when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income. No one is questioning that poorer people in poorer nations don’t have it even worse, but that doesn’t change that fact that per capita we have an incredibly high poverty rate among developed countries. That’s embarrassing and definitely not indicative of the best country in the world.

The method you are referencing, the poverty line is adjusted annually for inflation and takes into account the number of people in a family: the larger the family size, the higher the poverty line. In 2009, the poverty line for a nonfarming family of four (two adults, two children) was $21,756. A four-person family earning even one more dollar than $21,756 in 2009 was not officially poor, even though its “extra” income hardly lifted it out of dire economic straits. Policy experts have calculated a no-frills budget that enables a family to meet its basic needs in food, clothing, shelter, and so forth; this budget is about twice the poverty line. Families with incomes between the poverty line and twice the poverty line are barely making ends meet, but they are not considered officially poor. When we talk here about the poverty level, keep in mind that we are talking only about official poverty and that there are many families and individuals living in near-poverty who have trouble meeting their basic needs, especially when they face unusually high medical or motor vehicle expenses or the like. For this reason, some analyses use “twice-poverty” data (i.e., family incomes below twice the poverty line) to provide a more accurate understanding of how many Americans face serious financial difficulties.
 

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I never said the corruption rankings were biased. I said they are BS. They are basically saying that perception is reality when it comes to corruption. Do you really buy into the validity of that premise? You parrot what they claim as proof of their analysis, but you fail to apply any logical questions to what you are reading. Since actual corruption rates in each country can't be measured, they have to rely on assumptions in order to measure it. In the statistics they cite, they are making a huge assumption that black market activity and government regulation are the primary signs of corruption. If you are arguing that this country has way too many Government regulations and that Government has grown much too large, then I agree wholeheartedly. Aside from that, they will have to prove to me that correlation with those two factors are a good measure of actual corruption in a society. There is no data supporting that assumption. Also, I can find lots of things that are correlated with other things, but it doesn't mean there is causal relationship between the two. Any measure of actual corruption by country is speculative at best. In spite of that, we performed quite well in this particular piece of hokum.

The poverty rankings I have seen compare percent of people who make half or less of the average income in a country. They are not based on relative standards of living. In other words, they are not picking a specific standard of living for what constitutes poverty and then applying that standard to each country. They are assuming that anyone who falls into the category of half the average income or less has a very poor standard of living and is therefore living in poverty. That might be true in countries that have very low average incomes, but it might not be true of countries with higher average income. If you have seen a study that bases the poverty percent on a specific standard of living, then I would love to read it. Not to prove you right or wrong, but simply because I enjoy reading those kinds of things.

If you can't understand that industry consumes large quantities of BTUs, I'm not sure what to tell you. I would expect larger economies to use higher amounts of energy than countries with very little industrial base. You said the USA uses 13 times what china uses. That is completely false. China consumes more BTU's than any country on earth. In 2013, that last year I could find data for, China used 133,200 trillion BTU's of energy, or 22% of the world's consumption of energy. 65% from coal. The USA used 89,920 trillion BTU's of energy, or 20%. The energy consumption of a country will be driven by population, how developed the country is, and how much industry it has.

If you want to get right down to it, the relative size of an economy should be measured on a per capita basis. That's the only thing that takes population differences out of the equation. I have not seen a single measure that puts China remotely close to us on GDP at PPP on a per capita basis. What that tells you is that China still has a lot of room to grow and should pass us by any measure in overall size.

Please show me the democracies that have more rights than we do. I would also love to hear why you think we have more gun violence than they do. I told you why I think we do already. Let's hear why you think we do.
13 times? WTF are you talking about? Can you please cite where I said this? I said China has 4 times as many people than the US, as does India. India is less developed, so that is why I referenced China. Again, why would we only use 2% less BTU’s than a nation with 4 times as many people and larger economy?

Why? That would limit the actual scope and, Again, GDP comparisons using PPP are considerably more useful than those using nominal GDP when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using international market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income. among countries. PPP is often used to gauge global poverty thresholds and is used by the United Nations in constructing the human development index. These surveys such as the International Comparison Program include both tradable and non-tradable goods in an attempt to estimate a representative basket of all goods

UK, Spain, Germany, Austria, Iceland, Belgium, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Japan, Ireland, Barbados, Portugal, Denmark, Uruguay, New Zealand, Australia, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway and Finland.


Because we have the most, or damn close, ignorant gun laws in the world. We live in a country where people only feel safe if they have a gun because they are in adequate at being able to defend themselves without one and are too lazy and dumb to learn. While I support the 2nd amendment we need more common-sense gun laws to prevent much of the issues we have.


Quite well? You think being ranked out of the top 15 is quite well? Millennial generation I guess?
 

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13 times? WTF are you talking about? Can you please cite where I said this? I said China has 4 times as many people than the US, as does India. India is less developed, so that is why I referenced China. Again, why would we only use 2% less BTU’s than a nation with 4 times as many people and larger economy?

Why? That would limit the actual scope and, Again, GDP comparisons using PPP are considerably more useful than those using nominal GDP when assessing a nation's domestic market because PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country,

 
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Question for "mustnotsleepnow". As a boy growing up my mom would always call bleach "white Monday" Was she a racist and I never knew it?
 

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White Monday was and old brand of bleach according to google. Obviously boys in north Carolina commonly helped their mommies with the laundry instead of working with their fathers in the tobacco . . . like boys always did in Kentucky.

Ok. Then, no. From that story, your mom was not a secret racist.
 

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Nice to see someone not be rewarded for bad behavior.

+1

She has always acted like a thug on the court, and several announcers and former players have condemned her actions and think she is a bully. Has nothing to do with being a woman or a mom, and her crap about I am a mother makes it even worse - great example you are setting for your kids to see. If her kids acted like that in a store would they lie and say they are trying to advance kids rights, or would someone tell them they are acting like their mom at the Open - like s spoiled petulant child who blamed everyone else for her getting a beatdown live on national TV.
 

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Serena acted the fool. She and all her wild eyed apologists can blame sexism or whatever but she still was dead wrong.
 
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He don’t and don’t care. His/ her agenda is to racism in everything they see.

May be the case, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise.

A lot of decent people are misled by the SJW lie, and those peopple are reachable I think... It's not all so black and white as some want to make it.

When the Ferguson BLM rabble rousers came to Charleston a few years ago, it was the black community there that spoke out most loudly and adamantly against them and told them, rightfully so, to pack up and go home.
 
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I know what it means to know something, and therefore I see how they get their information, and I can't believe that they know it; they haven't done the work necessary, haven't done the care necessary. I have a great suspicion that they don't know that stuff they don't know and they are intimidating people by it.

 
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I know what it means to know something, and therefore I see how they get their information, and I can't believe that they know it; they haven't done the work necessary, haven't done the care necessary. I have a great suspicion that they don't know that stuff they don't know and they are intimidating people by it.


Love Richard Feynman.
 
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Man was next level genius...

Stumbled upon that clip today... he quickly and more eloquently/succinctly makes the point I was trying to make in these threads, people like gaffer don't know what they think they know.
 
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May be the case, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise.

A lot of decent people are misled by the SJW lie, and those peopple are reachable I think... It's not all so black and white as some want to make it.

When the Ferguson BLM rabble rousers came to Charleston a few years ago, it was the black community there that spoke out most loudly and adamantly against them and told them, rightfully so, to pack up and go home.
I was there. Charleston handles Charleston business. Our way. Thing is, when the power structure gets out of their lane (I-526, failed nuclear power station) the good ol boy system is exposed. Again. And again.

Returning to the OP. Serena was out of her lane and out of line. Then she played BOTH the wronged woman and the race card. Not well played.
 

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I was there. Charleston handles Charleston business. Our way. Thing is, when the power structure gets out of their lane (I-526, failed nuclear power station) the good ol boy system is exposed. Again. And again.

Returning to the OP. Serena was out of her lane and out of line. Then she played BOTH the wronged woman and the race card. Not well played.

Quite simple - she is just a nasty beast of a person. Like the saying goes - adversity does not build character it reveals it. She is a prime example.
 
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