Serena Williams
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What thing, Serena or the cartoon? What happened with Serena has absolutely zero to do with history, but I like the way you are thinking now more. The cartoon thing for me is neither here nor there, but to me it looked like an old cartoon but even still, white country bumpkins are made fun of in similar manner for their lack of sophistication or whatever else, history shouldn't make a difference on free expression of the arts or speech going forward as that is fundamental AMerican right not to be infringed upon.
Most of the (subjectively) best comedians are African-American, no restrictions should be placed on their or anyone elses freedom of expression regardless of historical sensibilities. That is merely a difference of opinion wrt to western ideals and has nothing to do with racism.
Yes, there are problems with racism still in this country and yes there are various problems in justice and judging tennis matches.
The ven diagram where these things overlap is very small.
In an attempt to be more clear, I personally would not draw such a cartoon because I am aware how people like you might perceive it, regardless if my intention to make such a cartoon had no bearing whatsover on how you took it.
It is a very slippery slope however when we start disallowing such expression merely because people might be offended. You don't have the right to tell people what or how to think, what they can say or do. I am tell you essentially it is not what happens to you but how you respond to it, not what to think but to think harder.
It is a very slippery slope however when we start disallowing such expression merely because people might be offended. You don't have the right to tell people what or how to think, what they can say or do. I am tell you essentially it is not what happens to you but how you respond to it, not what to think but to think harder.
America is great because it not only has freedom, its willing to fight so that other nations can be free. And, it has no desire to rule the nations it has fought for. As General Powell famously said, the only foreign soil America occupies after a war is a few acres of land where we buried our dead.
Interesting response.
I am in no way talking about the judgement of the tennis match. I'm merely speaking about the cartoon.
Of course, everyone has the freedom to draw whatever they want. However, that doesn't eliminate the possibly of that drawing being racist.
I was not advocating censorship. I was advocating calling out racist ******** when it appears.
I am in no way talking about the judgement of the tennis match. I'm merely speaking about the cartoon.
Of course, everyone has the freedom to draw whatever they want. However, that doesn't eliminate the possibly of that drawing being racist.
I was not advocating censorship. I was advocating calling out racist ******** when it appears.
Yes, but where is something intrinsically racist vs racist by perception?
How do you know the intent of the author and does it matter to you?
How do you know the intent of the author and does it matter to you?
Um, other counties besides Americs won't fight for others, and only want to claim them if they do? Can you support this with actual evidence? I'll wait!
Drawings can't be racist. People can be racist.
If you choose to see nothing but race in a goddam cartoon that the vast majority of people see nothing wrong with, you're likely a racist. You'll argue you're not, but when you go through life looking at nothing but race, you got a pretty big hill to overcome to claim you aren't a racist.
Like the one guy in the cop thread who said not complying with orders and large silhouette is code word for black people. Uh maybe you should take a step back and wonder why those words make you think of black peopl.
Did you just wake up after a very long nap? If you want to be upset over a cartoon, why not throw a tantrum over how our Presidents are depicted? Both the current President and his predecessor were and are ridiculed in cartoons that exaggerate their body features and depicts them in the worst possible light.. You seem to think Serena is somehow above all this and must receive the same treatment that radical Muslims demand for Mohammed. You do realize that this is all part of the freedoms we enjoy, don't you?
This is not complicated. Serena just needed to calm down.
Actually, I didn't write that America was the only country that would do so. But, examples are hard to find. Other than France helping America get free from England, no country comes to mind. And, France was always looking for an excuse to hurt England. Maybe you can name a few?
Yes, intent does matter. Do you know the intent of the author?
However, good intentions are not all that matters.
This is just plain stupid.
I don't see race or go looking for race in everything. This time, however, it is plain as day.
How did it become racist to call something out that is racist?
I don't, but I believe it's better to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Most of the time people with malicious intent are easy to spot from the outset; they can't help but reveal it. When you go looking for it in everyone and everywhere you get the chance, not saying you specifically most the time I am speaking about the idea not you personally, it is more a reflection of your (impersonal you) eyes than theirs.
Anyway, I got to take off. Thanks for the convo... it's like this through honest and earnest dialogue anything can actually improve in society as a whole, not the various antics the other guy tries to pull to persuade.
Most of the time people with malicious intent are easy to spot from the outset; they can't help but reveal it. When you go looking for it in everyone and everywhere you get the chance, not saying you specifically most the time I am speaking about the idea not you personally, it is more a reflection of your (impersonal you) eyes than theirs.
Anyway, I got to take off. Thanks for the convo... it's like this through honest and earnest dialogue anything can actually improve in society as a whole, not the various antics the other guy tries to pull to persuade.
Reasons America is the greatest country in the world
- We invented the internet. Millions of jobs and life improvements for nearly every single person on the planet
- We invented the cell phone
- We invented the machine gun
- We build the freaking Panama Canal
- We connected the telegraph/telephone from NA to Europe
- We built/created nuclear power, lightning rod, cotton gin, steamboats, electric lights
- Model T was first mass produced car
- First in flight
- Went to the moon
- How many jobs/changed lives have US companies improved across the world? Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Coke, Budweiser, the list is pages long. Global jobs, improvement of lives, etc.
- Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Freedom of Worship
- Melting pot, open-ness to immigration - like no other country
- Jazz/blues
- Literature achievements - Poe, Twain, Dickinson, Hemmingway, etc
- Feminist movement
You implied they were the greatest simply for this inaccurate fact. First off, I'm not sure you really wants to use war and violence as a way to demonstrate we are the greatest. Especially not when one of the 3 things we rank highest in is military spending. In which, we spend more than the next 25 counties combined. Most of which are allies.
However, since you asked. Britain, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India, the Soviet Union and China all fought alongside each other in ww2.
Britain, France, Russia and Italy were allies in Ww2.
In Vietnam, we fought alongside South Korea, and Australia.
In desert storm we have the aid of 35 other counties.
In Iraq we had the aid of the UK, Australia, Spain and Poland.
In Afghanistan, we initially had the support of UK and Canada, then a coalition of 35 countries joined us.
That's just the counties who have fought alongside or came to our aid of the US in the last century.
Umpires might boycott Serena Williams matches over her behavior
It's truly amazing Serena thinks it's the referee's fault that she completely lost her mind and behaved like a privileged spoiled brat.
He don’t and don’t care. His/ her agenda is to racism in everything they see.
Nope. Again, things aren't racist. People are. Specifically you.
Maybe one day you'll grow out of your ignorance and realize there's more to people besides the color of their skin.
The vast majority of people don't think that cartoon is racist. But you can't imagine a world where a black person is anything but a skin color and could actually be caricatured for something they did. It's shameful, really. Wake up.
What do find so offensive, the big lips? Do you refuse to acknowledge that on average black people have thicker lips than other races??
- We invented the internet. Millions of jobs and life improvements for nearly every single person on the planet
Initial concepts of wide area networking originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, United Kingdom, and France.
- We build the freaking Panama Canal
- We built/created nuclear power, lightning rod, cotton gin, steamboats, electric lights
The same year, his doctoral student James Chadwick discovered the neutron,[9] which was immediately recognized as a potential tool for nuclear experimentation because of its lack of an electric charge. Experimentation with bombardment of materials with neutrons led Frédéric and Irène Joliot-Curie to discover induced radioactivity in 1934, which allowed the creation of radium-like elements at much less the price of natural radium.[10] Further work by Enrico Fermi in the 1930s focused on using slow neutrons to increase the effectiveness of induced radioactivity. Experiments bombarding uranium with neutrons led Fermi to believe he had created a new, transuranic element, which was dubbed hesperium.[11]
In 1938, German chemists Otto Hahn[12] and Fritz Strassmann, along with Austrian physicist Lise Meitner[13] and Meitner's nephew, Otto Robert Frisch,[14] conducted experiments with the products of neutron-bombarded uranium, as a means of further investigating Fermi's claims. They determined that the relatively tiny neutron split the nucleus of the massive uranium atoms into two roughly equal pieces, contradicting Fermi.[11] This was an extremely surprising result: all other forms of nuclear decay involved only small changes to the mass of the nucleus, whereas this process—dubbed "fission" as a reference to biology—involved a complete rupture of the nucleus. Numerous scientists, including Leó Szilárd, who was one of the first, recognized that if fission reactions released additional neutrons, a self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction could result. Once this was experimentally confirmed and announced by Frédéric Joliot-Curie in 1939, scientists in many countries (including the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and the Soviet Union) petitioned their governments for support of nuclear fission research, just on the cusp of World War II, for the development of a nuclear weapon.[15]
First nuclear reactor
In the United States, where Fermi and Szilárd had both emigrated, the discovery of the nuclear chain reaction led to the creation of the first man-made reactor, known as Chicago Pile-1, which achieved criticality on December 2, 1942. This work became part of the Manhattan Project, a massive secret U.S. government military project to make enriched uranium and by building large production reactors to produce (breed) plutonium for use in the first nuclear weapons. The United States would test an atom bomb in July 1945 with the Trinity test, and eventually two such weapons were used in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Humphry Davy developed the first incandescent light in 1802, followed by the first practical electric arc light in 1806.
- First in flight
Jane's All The World's Aircraft claims in its 100th anniversary edition that German aviation pioneer Gustav Weisskopf was actually the first man to successfully build and fly his 'Condor' plane in August 1901.
- How many jobs/changed lives have US companies improved across the world? Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Coke, Budweiser, the list is pages long. Global jobs, improvement of lives, etc.
- Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Freedom of Worship
- Melting pot, open-ness to immigration - like no other country
- Jazz/blues
- Literature achievements - Poe, Twain, Dickinson, Hemmingway, etc
- Feminist movement
The US's accomplishments dwarf any other country's - despite being relatively young. Since 1776, our resume stands out against any other country's accomplishments. The fact that some of you liberals don't recognize American exceptionalism is offensive.
1. Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than the people in other countries, and yet gun control is still not being sufficiently regulated despite the US gun-related murders rating 25 times higher than all of the high-income countries.
2. America is number 16 in the world's corruption list. 1 being the least corrupt and 100 being the most corrupt. We're beaten by Belgium, Austria, Denmark, and 13 other countries. The fact is that America is corrupted and needs to get things together.
3. America is home to the highest number of overweight and obese people. Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people. Health wise, we're a mess. Also, Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily. We're not only greedy, but wasteful.
4. America is the top 10 most racist country in the world. Must be the reason why Donald Trump is still in the running for president of the United States.
5. Fact: 34% of billionaires are Americans. Fact: the US poverty level is the highest in the developed world. That gap in social classes is sick. If billionaires would maybe use their money to help people instead of using it for bribery, yachts, and 2.4 million dollar bottles of wine, maybe that gap wouldn't be as noticeable.
6. The US scored 16th in literacy proficiency, 21st in numeracy proficiency, and 14th in problem solving in technology-rich environments in a survey that tested 23 developed countries. That's dangerously low in education. America is not properly educating their children.
7. America makes up 37 percent of the 1.6 trillion dollars spent globally on military expenditures. The US military budget is the largest in the world. It's roughly the size of of the next 7 largest military budgets around the world combined. That's money that could've gone to finding a cure for cancer. Instead of violence, spread love. We certainly can see where American priorities lie.
8. US college students face tuition rates that far outrun inflation rates and more than $1.2 trillion in student debt. Students in Germany, Finland, France, Sweden, Norway, Slovenia, Brazil, Luxembourg, and Iceland, however, are receiving a quality education that's free. Just goes to show why Americans don't meet average intelligence. It's because they can't afford an education.
9. Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy. America uses up twice as much energy as Japan, six times more than Mexico, and 13 times more than China. We don't need that much energy. That rate of consumption is wasteful and hurtful to the environment.
10. Even after all of these proven facts, we still think that we're the greatest country in the world.
- America ranks 13th in starting a business, according to the Doing Business rankings compiled by The World Bank.
- The U.S. ranks 47th in press freedom, according to Reporters Without Borders. So much for freedom of the press.
- The U.S. ranks 20th in international trade, according to the Doing Business rankings compiled by The World Bank.
- The U.S., which ranks 15th in dealing with debt insolvencyaccording to the Doing Business rankings.
- The U.S. is ranked 10th in economic freedom, according to The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal.
- The U.S. is 25th among 43 developing countries for the best place to be a mother, according to Save The Children.
- The U.S. is only the 11th happiest country in the world, according Columbia University's Earth Institute.
- There are 21 countries better than America in freedom from corruption, according to Heritage.org.
- The U.S. was ranked 24th in perceived honesty, according to Transparency.org.
- America is ranked 39th in income inequality according to the CIA World Factbook.
- Need a Hepatitis B vaccination? The U.S. is ranked 89th in percentage of children who have been vaccinated according to the World Health Organization.
- The U.S. is only 47th in infant survival? That's true, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- Want to live a long life? Don't live in the U.S., which is 50th in life expectancy according to the CIA World Factbook.
- How well is our economy growing? The U.S. GDP growth rate is ranked 169th out of 216 countries, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- Our GDP per capita is only 12th in the world, behind Qatar and Liechtenstein, says the CIA World Factbook.
- Our unemployment percentage is worse than 102 of the 200 countries listed by the CIA World Factbook.
- The U.S. is an embarrassing 142nd out of 150 countries in infrastructure investment, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- America's budget deficit is ranked 192nd in debt relative to GDP, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- The growth rate of our industrial production is ranked 79th,according to the CIA World Factbook.
- The U.S. is only 11th in oil exports, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- Our oil reserves is only the 13th most in the world, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- The U.S. is ranked 192nd, dead last, in the net trade of goods and services, according to the CIA World Factbook.
- Our reserve of foreign exchange and gold is ranked 19th,according to the CIA World Factbook, right behind Indonesia.
- The U.S. is ranked the 28th best soccer team by FIFA.
- In terms of the percentage of women holding public office, the U.S. ranks 79th out of 147 countries, says the IPU.
You might want to read your history books again. In no case in the last century has the US been threatened and a country come to her aid. In the WWll events cited you have it backward: The US went to the aid of countries that were invaded, not the other way around. Those countries assisted the US as well as they could in their own self-interest. England and its colonies fought for the future of England, not for the US. Every other case mentioned resulted from an individual country's treaty obligation to the US. Maintaining such treaties is overwhelmingly in those countries self-interest and failing to honor them would not be tolerated by the US.
You should really cite your copy and paste authors...very rude of you - Maya Manzanero-Lopez is going to be pissed.
:joy: How many wars have been fought on US soil in the last century?
You do realize the US invaded Afghanistan because they because of 9/11 and their connection to Bin Laden, particularly the Taliban. So all those countries that joined forces and fought along side of us don't matter because it wasn't us Soil? :joy:
How about in Iraq? We invaded them and were backed and supported by several other countries and their troop. But I guess it doesn't count because it wasn't fought in Merica! :joy:
Um, the US didn't join the fray in WW2 until we were attacked by Japan on US soil. Then, 4 days later, the US decided to act because they realized it was only a matter of time if the Nazis won before the US would be invaded. And there would be no one left to aid us. Talk about your history books, Jesus!
Haha, so using your logic, the US was helping to be nice and not because of any treaties or self-interest, but the other countries were just looking out for themselves and doing it because they had too? That makes perfect sense!! [pfftt]
Can you tell us more about history from your perspective. This ***** entertaining.
Also, can you point out where I said the US had been invaded in the last century.
Click on the blue words and letters. I'll give you a secret; they are links. [winking]
Are we the only country in the world where it's citizens love pissing on it's own greatness?
Very strange mindset. Is it some sort of guilt or what?
Very strange mindset. Is it some sort of guilt or what?
No, we are just one of the only countries in the world where honesty is viewed as a bad thing we should fear or be ashamed of.
Progress can't be made in an area without knowing the deficiencies and how to improve them. America has done many many great things, but we have also don'e many bad and lowered our standards over time. We have regressed in many ways as a nation, while improving in only some. If we want to truly be great, we have to identify our deficiencies and strive to improve them. Only then we can truly become GREAT.
Nice utopian reply.
Have you posted what you actually think is great about this country (I have a feeling i can guess 1 of them)? Feel free to do so.
And would love to see where you think we have regressed as well.
I'll give you a secret - Maya compiled all of that information in her 10 reasons and you stole her writing word for word.
And it is also weird that you are using multiple screen names. Grab your sack and stick to one.
I did, huh? Where did I say it was my word? This isn't a paper or essay being submitted officially. It's a message board. Don't you think if I was going to copy it for my own word I might try to change a few things so you couldn't search it?
Why would I leave the hyperlinks for the other stuff if I was trying to take credit for myself?
Can't! They only let new accounts post 5 times before being blocked from posting again for a few hours. Up to 24hrs sometimes.
I think we have superior medical care, even though the cost are outrageous and need to be made more affordable. I am not in support of Universal Healthcare because we honestly can't afford it, but we do have to figure out the best way to make healthcare affordable and prescription drugs as well. We also have to end the medication dependency in this country.
I think in general our colleges are superior to most countries. Obviously there are some renowned international schools, but on the whole, we have superior. However, the cost of this is out of control as well.
Athletically, particularly athletic entertainment, we are superior to almost every country in sports besides Soccer, Cricket and Rugby, maybe a few other no on knows about. Again, I love this.
There's a few for you.
I already posted many of the regressions and stats that support them. You'll have to see the previous posts for that.
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Read this in a blog, implying there's a double standard at play here. My guess is he's right:
“Jeff Danziger, whose cartoons are syndicated in The New York Times, had a caricature of ‘a big-lipped, barely literate Condoleezza Rice, nursing the aluminum tubes cited by the White House as evidence of Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons.’” Then there’s Ted Rall, who called Condi Rice President Bush’s “house nigga.”
But that’s different. Condi’s a Republican, after all."
Here's one of Rice - there are too many to pick from. How many that are wailing about the Serena cartoon were defensive of this one?
“Jeff Danziger, whose cartoons are syndicated in The New York Times, had a caricature of ‘a big-lipped, barely literate Condoleezza Rice, nursing the aluminum tubes cited by the White House as evidence of Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons.’” Then there’s Ted Rall, who called Condi Rice President Bush’s “house nigga.”
But that’s different. Condi’s a Republican, after all."
Here's one of Rice - there are too many to pick from. How many that are wailing about the Serena cartoon were defensive of this one?
So 3 things? With 2 having caveats? Damn. What a **** country you must think this is. If I felt the same, and had the means, I'd move my *** out of here.
In no way am I going back through this thread to read copy/paste diatribes. Was hoping you could just bullet point (may be too long a list, so I get it).
Wow, big surprise that some of you spent so much time trying to remove America's accomplishments. I hope at the end of the day today, you realize what a great use of your time that was.
Just pathetic.
Just pathetic.