Serious question . . .

cestrup

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What will need to happen is what happened at the end 2021. Dannen will have to meddle with making changes to the staff. This is never a good thing as it further demonstrates the incompetence of the HC.
For the third year in a row we have to force him to make changes. Does this sound like a guy who is trying his best to win?
 

Shimmer003

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Anyone that thinks it’s a good idea for Nebraska to enter the coaching search world this cycle is nuts. It’s going to be a laundry list of better jobs than Nebraska. We’ve already got Penn state and Florida open and it’s the middle of October. Florida state is imminent. Auburn will be open. There’s a chance LSU could part with Kelly. Even usc and Oklahoma could open up if they can’t navigate tough schedules to end the year.
 

konaki

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I do blame Rhule for the mess leading into this game because all he had to do was make a call live on TV with Kraft and tell him if he was thinking about offering him please take him off his list because he won't accept. Unfortunately Rhule was way to cagey and the players I believe picked up on it, I believe and it led to a week of uncertainty and turmoil.

I really don't believe it was a case of Minnesota being a better team, for me it was a case of a team that's heads were all screwed up and they played like it. There is no way Nebraska should have lost that game if their minds are clear and focused now it's up to Rhule to set the record strait or he will lose this team for the remainder of the season or be fired before it's over. jmo
 

SuperBigFan69

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Anyone that thinks it’s a good idea for Nebraska to enter the coaching search world this cycle is nuts. It’s going to be a laundry list of better jobs than Nebraska. We’ve already got Penn state and Florida open and it’s the middle of October. Florida state is imminent. Auburn will be open. There’s a chance LSU could part with Kelly. Even usc and Oklahoma could open up if they can’t navigate tough schedules to end the year.
Yeah, I get that but I think the idea of "better job" has really shifted.

Indiana will pay 12 million a year and you can clearly win there with ZERO pressure.
Would I rather coach at IU for 12 million a year and no pressure or LSU for 12 million a year and tons of pressure?
 

oldjar07

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Yeah, I get that but I think the idea of "better job" has really shifted.

Indiana will pay 12 million a year and you can clearly win there with ZERO pressure.
Would I rather coach at IU for 12 million a year and no pressure or LSU for 12 million a year and tons of pressure?
Unless you want to go to a high pressure place and get fired... Not a bad early retirement plan.
 
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Weird! I haven’t seen a whole lot that want Rhule fired. However, if he decides to leave on his own accord I don’t think there would be alot of tears shed if that happens.

You don’t have to pay a coach too much to go 6-6 and 7-5 on a regular basis (which is all that Rhule has done so far). The schedule is practically set up to achieve just that with just a little bit of effort.
 
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This board is incredible.

In one thread we have dudes asking how much money we need to keep Rhule, and in the next thread is how much money can we spend to fire him.

Phucking amazing. (y)
In fairness to Jarvis, he said his post was sarcasm, and I believe that.

But otherwise, this board is quite amazing, to put it gently.
 

Hans81

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I do blame Rhule for the mess leading into this game because all he had to do was make a call live on TV with Kraft and tell him if he was thinking about offering him please take him off his list because he won't accept. Unfortunately Rhule was way to cagey and the players I believe picked up on it, I believe and it led to a week of uncertainty and turmoil.

I really don't believe it was a case of Minnesota being a better team, for me it was a case of a team that's heads were all screwed up and they played like it. There is no way Nebraska should have lost that game if their minds are clear and focused now it's up to Rhule to set the record strait or he will lose this team for the remainder of the season or be fired before it's over. jmo
I believe you have your Husker “red glasses” on in your analysis. Mn had better o-line and d-line than Nebraska. That’s where games are generally won (or lost), so no amount of additional focus the prior week was going to really help Nebraska win that match-up. I’ve also been impressed with MN’s young QB this season…he throws a good ball and doesn’t get too easily flustered.
 
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I do blame Rhule for the mess leading into this game because all he had to do was make a call live on TV with Kraft and tell him if he was thinking about offering him please take him off his list because he won't accept. Unfortunately Rhule was way to cagey and the players I believe picked up on it, I believe and it led to a week of uncertainty and turmoil.

I really don't believe it was a case of Minnesota being a better team, for me it was a case of a team that's heads were all screwed up and they played like it. There is no way Nebraska should have lost that game if their minds are clear and focused now it's up to Rhule to set the record strait or he will lose this team for the remainder of the season or be fired before it's over. jmo
The interesting thing is that nearly every coach rumoured to be of interest lost this week.

The distraction was real. That is human nature to become distracted when something you dream for suddenly appears out of no where.

This was a dangerous game for us before the Franklin drama. That only made it moreso.
 
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realHuskerDrew

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We can’t fire him for another 3 years at least.
Anyway, we will **** up the hire.. so more of this sh*t.
Nebraska is a clownshow and I really don’t even give a crap anymore. And no more NIL donations from me for at least 5 years.
I am just glad I lived through the glory years of the 90s… those will never be back
 

Redscarlet

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We can’t fire him for another 3 years at least.
Anyway, we will **** up the hire.. so more of this sh*t.
Nebraska is a clownshow and I really don’t even give a crap anymore. And no more NIL donations from me for at least 5 years.
I am just glad I lived through the glory years of the 90s… those will never be back
Enjoyed the 60’s 70’s 80’s 90’s when we were a hard noised physical football program.

Always knew after Devaney and Osborne it would be hard to keep feeding the monster that was created by these two.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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What will need to happen is what happened at the end 2021. Dannen will have to meddle with making changes to the staff. This is never a good thing as it further demonstrates the incompetence of the HC.
Unfortunately, IF NU were to lose to NW on Saturday we are going to see the same panicked look in Matt's eyes as we seen last year prior to the week of finally beating Wiscy and getting bowl eligible. A loss Saturday and Matt and Dannen are gonna have another struggle session and changes likely will be on the table.

You can't have a coach and AD constantly panhandling for more and more money, while at the same time failing to produce enough wins to justify that request/demand from people. A vision is not reality, actually winning football games are a huge part of the "deal."

After the blow out at IND, then the close loss to OSU followed by the home loss to UCLA revealed a pathetic side of Matt that wasn't fun to watch. Despite his normal demeanor, you could tell he had been told by Dannen that changes had to be made or those money requests were gonna dry up.

Presto, suddenly Dana appears on the scene.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Anyone that thinks it’s a good idea for Nebraska to enter the coaching search world this cycle is nuts. It’s going to be a laundry list of better jobs than Nebraska. We’ve already got Penn state and Florida open and it’s the middle of October. Florida state is imminent. Auburn will be open. There’s a chance LSU could part with Kelly. Even usc and Oklahoma could open up if they can’t navigate tough schedules to end the year.
I'm not, nor have I been onboad with firing Matt, that's not gonna happen. Is Matt the answer to the long term issue of becoming a national contender? No, but Matt's gonna have 2-3 more years regardless.
 

Redscarlet

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I was called a "senile old fuhk" by someone here recently, but remember all 5 of our Championships well. Watched first two on black and white TV.

Senile as I am, I guess, I am so glad to have all those memories. Those years were pretty special.
I was fortunate enough seeing the first two in living color.😉
My father fixed TV’s part time believe he bought the first one in 1969.
 
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orclover11

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For those wanting Rhule gone. If we don't have donors who will pony up for a 40 million dollar roster, do you expect donors to pick up 56 million in a buyout scenario?

I'm disappointed with Friday, but I don't think it's scrap and start over time.
I would not be surprised if Penn State still offers the job to Rhule if he can win 7 or 8 this year. It is still hard to recruit to the north and there isn't a lot of talent in the NE...the FSU, Florida, UCLA jobs will just be more pleasant. That gets down to their likely 3 or 4th option..and Rhule is in the top 5 for PSU for sure. I mean NU hired Reilly, who was about to be fired at Oregon state to replace a very successful coach. A guy who hadn't won anything to replace a guy who was being fired for not winning anything.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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I do blame Rhule for the mess leading into this game because all he had to do was make a call live on TV with Kraft and tell him if he was thinking about offering him please take him off his list because he won't accept. Unfortunately Rhule was way to cagey and the players I believe picked up on it, I believe and it led to a week of uncertainty and turmoil.

I really don't believe it was a case of Minnesota being a better team, for me it was a case of a team that's heads were all screwed up and they played like it. There is no way Nebraska should have lost that game if their minds are clear and focused now it's up to Rhule to set the record strait or he will lose this team for the remainder of the season or be fired before it's over. jmo
You would have thought after Coach Rhules' PR man, (QB Dylan Raiola) had asssured the state and the team that Matt wasn't going anywhere the team was ready to respond and play a great game against Minnesota. I guess not, cause I remember after the MICH loss Dylan assured everyone the team was ready to regroup and do something "scary." I guess he was right about that.
 

Redscarlet

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I would not be surprised if Penn State still offers the job to Rhule if he can win 7 or 8 this year. It is still hard to recruit to the north and there isn't a lot of talent in the NE...the FSU, Florida, UCLA jobs will just be more pleasant. That gets down to their likely 3 or 4th option..and Rhule is in the top 5 for PSU for sure. I mean NU hired Reilly, who was about to be fired at Oregon state to replace a very successful coach. A guy who hadn't won anything to replace a guy who was being fired for not winning anything.
So you really think that Kraft is as obtuse as Eichorst was?
 
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I was fortunate enough seeing the first two in living color.😉
My father fixed TV’s part time believe he bought the first one in 1969.
We had a box tube with rabbit ears. I grew up in Lincoln, across the street from LSE. There were a fair amount of TV towers on houses then. They did not last long as they were like a big lightning rod attached to your house, and electrical system.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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I was called a "senile old fuhk" by someone here recently, but remember all 5 of our Championships well. Watched first two on black and white TV.

Senile as I am, I guess, I am so glad to have all those memories. Those years were pretty special.
Recent conversation between Spectrum and another board member:

Spectrum, "Man, my memory is so bad."
Member, "Why is that?"
Spectrum, "Why is what?"
 

K Rod

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The Ped state job is a complicated situation. They have only had three coaches in the last 61 years if my math is correct. A rabid fan base. Yet your up against Michigan, OSU, Oregon, and about 8 other legitimate programs that in any given season are a threat. Expectations are high. Very high. Similar to NU when TO retired. Great resources. Great stadium and training facilities. Yet the pressure to win fast will be immense. People who see Cignetti come in and win from day one will expect the same results to some degree. And I also suspect PSU will have a hard time finding just the "right" candidate. My first thought after the Minnesota shitfest was that Ruhle was out of the discussion there. Now I am not so sure. Ruhle did not seem that bothered by the wretched performance. He has not made any staff changes ( Uncle Donny ). If he intends to be here, at some point you would think he would want to send a message to the rest of the staff. In his presser the other day he struck me as being a little thin skinned. He complained about fans cracking on Satt last year ( as well they should have BTW ). He then went on to lobby for more NIL money. My thoughts at the time were " suck it up butter cup, this is not Baylor or Temple. If he leaves, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
 

Husker88

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I would not be surprised if Penn State still offers the job to Rhule if he can win 7 or 8 this year. It is still hard to recruit to the north and there isn't a lot of talent in the NE...the FSU, Florida, UCLA jobs will just be more pleasant. That gets down to their likely 3 or 4th option..and Rhule is in the top 5 for PSU for sure. I mean NU hired Reilly, who was about to be fired at Oregon state to replace a very successful coach. A guy who hadn't won anything to replace a guy who was being fired for not winning anything.

This might be the absolute worst take I've ever seen on this site. And that is saying something.

There is a **** ton of talent in the Northeast and Penn State is the flagship go to school for that talent.

And it was Riley for phucks sake.
 
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BugsAreQualityProtein

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Unfortunately, IF NU were to lose to NW on Saturday we are going to see the same panicked look in Matt's eyes as we seen last year prior to the week of finally beating Wiscy and getting bowl eligible. A loss Saturday and Matt and Dannen are gonna have another struggle session and changes likely will be on the table.

You can't have a coach and AD constantly panhandling for more and more money, while at the same time failing to produce enough wins to justify that request/demand from people. A vision is not reality, actually winning football games are a huge part of the "deal."

After the blow out at IND, then the close loss to OSU followed by the home loss to UCLA revealed a pathetic side of Matt that wasn't fun to watch. Despite his normal demeanor, you could tell he had been told by Dannen that changes had to be made or those money requests were gonna dry up.

Presto, suddenly Dana appears on the scene.
I’m talking to the point where there could be multiple new coaches on both sides of the ball. Perhaps even two new coordinators going into year 4.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Real question is if we lose to NW how many people will turn on Rhule.
I don't think people "turning" on Matt is the issue, many already have. The level of frustration has gotten a lot higher because many feel they can pinpoint a couple reasons why we sh*t the bed in MINN and then will be the dread of "here we go again" with the likely second half season collapse.

Losing to NW won't get Matt fired, but boy, the heat will really start to intensify.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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The Ped state job is a complicated situation. They have only had three coaches in the last 61 years if my math is correct. A rabid fan base. Yet your up against Michigan, OSU, Oregon, and about 8 other legitimate programs that in any given season are a threat. Expectations are high. Very high. Similar to NU when TO retired. Great resources. Great stadium and training facilities. Yet the pressure to win fast will be immense. People who see Cignetti come in and win from day one will expect the same results to some degree. And I also suspect PSU will have a hard time finding just the "right" candidate. My first thought after the Minnesota shitfest was that Ruhle was out of the discussion there. Now I am not so sure. Ruhle did not seem that bothered by the wretched performance. He has not made any staff changes ( Uncle Donny ). If he intends to be here, at some point you would think he would want to send a message to the rest of the staff. In his presser the other day he struck me as being a little thin skinned. He complained about fans cracking on Satt last year ( as well they should have BTW ). He then went on to lobby for more NIL money. My thoughts at the time were " suck it up butter cup, this is not Baylor or Temple. If he leaves, I'm not going to lose any sleep.
I thought the weakest part of the whole thing was acting as if NU lost the game because we don't have enough NIL money, but to me, the point was, we're talking about beating MINN here buddy.
 

Shimmer003

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Yeah, I get that but I think the idea of "better job" has really shifted.

Indiana will pay 12 million a year and you can clearly win there with ZERO pressure.
Would I rather coach at IU for 12 million a year and no pressure or LSU for 12 million a year and tons of pressure?
No big name coach will consider the school with no recruiting base, that hasn’t won anything in over 20 years and boosters are too cheap to spend at an elite level due to “optics” to be better than the jobs I listed above
 

inthedeed

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judging by what seems to be the mindset of many of the posters on here it's really little wonder where we have found ourselves.