Settle this for me...is Kentucky considered the south or not?
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OH LOOK AT ME EATING PRETENTIOUS GRITS AT THIS PRETENTIOUS CAFE *insta pic*
Do you have any idea how many tons of grits get thrown away at Cracker Barrel. They come with every meal but only approximately 0.75% of their patrons even touch them.
Put some skrimp on em, scale down the portion, and surround them with fancy decor and they're suddenly picture worthy.
Do you have any idea how many tons of grits get thrown away at Cracker Barrel. They come with every meal but only approximately 0.75% of their patrons even touch them.
Put some skrimp on em, scale down the portion, and surround them with fancy decor and they're suddenly picture worthy.
This.
I've never understood the "I'm a redneck and proud of it" movement, but I also prefer sleeves and teeth, so what do I know?
Gotta love Oconee County! I had some friends who lived on Lake Hartwell near Blackjack Rd, Dr. John's, SC-11 and 123; their address was in Westminster. We would go into Walhalla and Seneca every day; there's nothing like going to the landfill twice a week, because of no trash service! One of them had a relative who owned a restaurant in Walhalla (the Steak House). EVERYONE gets lost going to their house! They have since relocated to another state.
Based of the War of Northers Agression Kentucky was a true border state. Family against family, brother against brother.
Many Eastern Kentuckians fought for both sides.
but very very few owned slaves.
I consider KY a transition/crossroads state, I’ve traveled across the state and met enough to know it’s a combination of both. Most of the state has a midwestern feel more than southern, including western, southern and some parts of central KY. Louisville is just like the dickheads in Indiana, one of two northern areas. Northern KY is Ohio lite, Florence and Covington etc. Eastern KY is its own animal and may be the only region that could be considered southern. There is a cultural convergence here unlike any other state imo
Both my parents are from KY but my pops was in the military and we lived up and down the east coast. I’ve lived here the last 25 years. Saying all that because I’m still flabbergasted on how many people in KY relish being backwards as hell. KY isn’t southern - it’s just a good 10/15 years behind. Most of KY isn’t charming or quaint - it’s backwards.
If west KY isn’t southern then neither is middle and west TN. The cultures are identical.
Would have to be 169 years old even if he enlisted at age 17.
What you got there , Domino 79?
I don't think KY is southern...you could also figure that out from attending UK and then visiting the other schools in the SEC.
KY is Southern in culture, Eastern KY is Appalachian in culture, they are 2 distinct cultures that often times get intermingled.
The Mid Western that I read on here often has been transplanted by people moving in, and the movement of more people into the Louisville and Northern KY region.
Tennessee and Kentucky are almost identical in culture and geography.
The Mid Western that I read on here often has been transplanted by people moving in, and the movement of more people into the Louisville and Northern KY region.
Tennessee and Kentucky are almost identical in culture and geography.
Northern KY is like Cincy
Lexington and central kentucky is Midwest
Louisville is almost north central cities
western kentucky is like kansas/missouri
east and southeast kentucky is a 3rd world country. like somalia except white people
Lexington and central kentucky is Midwest
Louisville is almost north central cities
western kentucky is like kansas/missouri
east and southeast kentucky is a 3rd world country. like somalia except white people
Honestly, knowing the people associated with each... I'll take the south. Every time.
Louisville was a big slave-trade center, but it was more pro-union during most of the lead-up to and during the civil war. It actually became more pro-confederate AFTER the civil war. Because it was a border city and because it was never devastated during the war itself, it became a place many southerners moved to after the war to find jobs, largely in trade and manufacturing, and became far more sympathetic to the southern cause a decade or two after the war ended than it was leading up to it.
Most of those monuments people keep referring to stem from that, as Louisville knew its bread was buttered by north-south trade prior to the war and didn't want to upset that. Despite having large slave-trading markets, Kentucky was never reliant on slave labor like southern states were because there wasn't a large plantation system in Kentucky. It's too mountainous in the east (so, like West Virginia, wasn't very pro-slavery), and the soil doesn't lend itself to the same cash crops the south relied on. So the slave culture in Kentucky was mostly just based on selling slaves to more southern states along the Ohio and Mississippi river, not relying on slave labor in the state itself. Basically, KY profited off the slave trade, but didn't have a big slave-based economy or culture within its own borders.
It also had quite a few Catholics and later immigrants from the north along the river, which led to strong abolition current in all the river cities.
As you move south from the river and west from Appalachia, Kentucky becomes increasingly more southern in culture, and it's largely indistinguishable in parts from northern Tennessee and mid-west river cultures in Missouri. Still, there isn't much of the "deep south" culture in Kentucky ala Alabama, Miss, etc.
It's a border state. There are elements of Midwest, Appalachia, and the south throughout the state depending on where you are. Geographically, it's probably mostly southern, just based on area. But the population is centered around the mid-western influenced areas, so it depends on how you view it.
Most of those monuments people keep referring to stem from that, as Louisville knew its bread was buttered by north-south trade prior to the war and didn't want to upset that. Despite having large slave-trading markets, Kentucky was never reliant on slave labor like southern states were because there wasn't a large plantation system in Kentucky. It's too mountainous in the east (so, like West Virginia, wasn't very pro-slavery), and the soil doesn't lend itself to the same cash crops the south relied on. So the slave culture in Kentucky was mostly just based on selling slaves to more southern states along the Ohio and Mississippi river, not relying on slave labor in the state itself. Basically, KY profited off the slave trade, but didn't have a big slave-based economy or culture within its own borders.
It also had quite a few Catholics and later immigrants from the north along the river, which led to strong abolition current in all the river cities.
As you move south from the river and west from Appalachia, Kentucky becomes increasingly more southern in culture, and it's largely indistinguishable in parts from northern Tennessee and mid-west river cultures in Missouri. Still, there isn't much of the "deep south" culture in Kentucky ala Alabama, Miss, etc.
It's a border state. There are elements of Midwest, Appalachia, and the south throughout the state depending on where you are. Geographically, it's probably mostly southern, just based on area. But the population is centered around the mid-western influenced areas, so it depends on how you view it.
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While I was in college (Denver, CO) I got into a debate with about 15 people.. None from KY. Not one person thought KY was a southern state. Being from Corbin, I was appalled.
Majority said midwest.. Some said northern.
Goes to show.. small sample size but a lot of people who are unfamiliar with the state do not consider KY to be southern.
Majority said midwest.. Some said northern.
Goes to show.. small sample size but a lot of people who are unfamiliar with the state do not consider KY to be southern.
Great great grandpa fought for the South from Taylor County. He was captured and told he could gain his release if he fought for the North which he did. At the time of her death last year my great aunt had the original grave marker detailing his service (regiment, etc). It was found under the church when they renovated as he had purchased another stone to mark his grave. That's just how conflicted Kentucky was in the Civil War.
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No one can settle this for you OP except yourself. What you feel. I have always felt Southern.
KY has always been considered a Southern state. There is a reason for the high number of Confederate statues in the state. The largest monument in the state is for Jefferson Davis. Kentuckians fought on both sides but except for the state government, KY was pro South.
Look at how KY is normally portray in movies. Especially old movies that were made much closer to the end of the war.
Judge Priest, written by Kentuckian Irwin S Cobb couldn't depict us as more old South.
Even later movies like Elizabethtown with Jude Law. All of his relatives had thick Southern accents.
Hell, there was even a reality show 4-5 years ago called Southern Belles of Louisville.
So, someone out there agrees with me.
Unfortunately, the PC culture has taken over and has pushed KY further and further away from its Southern roots.
KY has always been considered a Southern state. There is a reason for the high number of Confederate statues in the state. The largest monument in the state is for Jefferson Davis. Kentuckians fought on both sides but except for the state government, KY was pro South.
Look at how KY is normally portray in movies. Especially old movies that were made much closer to the end of the war.
Judge Priest, written by Kentuckian Irwin S Cobb couldn't depict us as more old South.
Even later movies like Elizabethtown with Jude Law. All of his relatives had thick Southern accents.
Hell, there was even a reality show 4-5 years ago called Southern Belles of Louisville.
So, someone out there agrees with me.
Unfortunately, the PC culture has taken over and has pushed KY further and further away from its Southern roots.
You should research why KY didn't secede, and TN did. The state legislature from both states voted against secession, TN kicked it out to the populace to vote on, and KY did not. If it had KY would've seceded as well.