Shaka Smart already has more Tourney wins than The Recruiter...
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He only shows that seeding really doesn't matter in the tournament. An 11 seed in the Final 4 just blows my mind... while knocking off a very good 1 seed... I hate the "Memphis was a 1 seed" argument... Shaka is showing that it doesn't matter if you come ready to play.
drt7891 said:
is the "Stans just had bad luck in the Tourney" excuse...****, he's been there 6 times- it's not bad luck, he just cant get the job done. Bad luck is losing by a halfcourt shot or a long 3 at the buzzer- not playing a team 200 miles from their home gym
VCU had "bad luck" this year and made it to the Final 4... so did Butler... None of them made excuses. They seized opportunity and ran with it, not sat there and said "well it was Memphis, they were a 1 seed" or "well, we are 3,000 miles from home in a building we have never played in... maybe next year." You take opportunity and go with it, not sit around and just be happy you got seeded somewhere and say "We reached our goal. We made the tourney."
I don't believe that Stansbury can get us where we need to go and we should be making his seat hot and looking for another coach, but Shaka Smart? Let's see him do something over a few years and not try to hire a Stan Heath all over again after one NCAA run. Kansas has great talent and pretty good coaching, but are not in the elite eight every year and have one championship to their name in the past twenty years. Give it a rest for once.
He cleans up Richardson's mess and has to deal with all the BS in UPig's administration- makes the NCAA Tourney his last 2 seasons- and gets fired...now his discipline left alot to be desired and he wasnt great by any means, but he was not near as bad as people try to make him out to be...
He left UPig with an NCAA team- you guys need to find a better punching bag to use- UPig's problem is that they are impatient and every time a new coach is building the program back- they fire him.
He left UPig with an NCAA team- you guys need to find a better punching bag to use- UPig's problem is that they are impatient and every time a new coach is building the program back- they fire him.
But the excuse you use for Pelphrey is that he inherited a mess and had to rebuild... now you're saying Heath had them on the verge but then they fired him? Which is it?<div>
</div><div>What is so terrible about their administration by the way other than impatience?
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</div><div>What is so terrible about their administration by the way other than impatience?
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I said Heath left them an NCAA ready team- and he did..but they fired him and the recruiting class fell apart...in comes Pelphrey with a Sr laden-team that lacks discipline- gets them to the Tourney- loses everybody and has to completely start over- they were the 2nd or 3rd youngest team in the NCAA his 2nd season...
<div>" What is so terrible about their administration by the way other than impatience?"
maybe the way they had Nolan Richardson screaming racism and the lack of support he got. Or maybe its the way the have had 3 coaches in the last 9 years? Thats like saying what was wrong with State's administration before we hired the General
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<div>" What is so terrible about their administration by the way other than impatience?"
maybe the way they had Nolan Richardson screaming racism and the lack of support he got. Or maybe its the way the have had 3 coaches in the last 9 years? Thats like saying what was wrong with State's administration before we hired the General
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I honestly don't know the history of their administration, I'm not simultaneously on 5 different message boards 18 hrs a day like you.<div>
</div><div>That being said, a quick search tells me that Heath had ONE signee when he was fired that Pelphrey didn't hang on to, and that guy ended up not qualifying, going to JUCO, and then Jackson St...so much for that "Heath's recruiting class fell apart" theory</div><div>
</div><div>So basically Heath would've ALSO been starting over with the 2nd or 3rd youngest team in the NCAA in 07-08 with likely less talent than Pelphrey brought in... so did he leave it in great shape if he too were going to have to 'start over' in 08? Did he have it "built back" before he was fired? </div><div>
</div><div>How bout his 41-54 record at USF since he left Arkansas and missing the NCAA's the following 4 years? (with only 1 NIT appearance)</div><div>
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</div><div>That being said, a quick search tells me that Heath had ONE signee when he was fired that Pelphrey didn't hang on to, and that guy ended up not qualifying, going to JUCO, and then Jackson St...so much for that "Heath's recruiting class fell apart" theory</div><div>
</div><div>So basically Heath would've ALSO been starting over with the 2nd or 3rd youngest team in the NCAA in 07-08 with likely less talent than Pelphrey brought in... so did he leave it in great shape if he too were going to have to 'start over' in 08? Did he have it "built back" before he was fired? </div><div>
</div><div>How bout his 41-54 record at USF since he left Arkansas and missing the NCAA's the following 4 years? (with only 1 NIT appearance)</div><div>
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he's really not that difficult people. Thats why I have taken up the ******* approach in dealing with him
I'm not a coach34 defender but you cannot get on here and yell "WE GET IT!" every time coach shows how terrible Stansbury is and then continue to make excuses for him. Until everyone agrees we need to move in a new direction and fire Stans I see no problem with posting facts about our current head coach.
trumaroon said:
Then you folks defend him. Hell it is every damn day. If this guy isn't a mental case, then what is? We get it, he hates Stans, give us a break and at least wait until November. Meanwhile there is one more fact, Shaka and Stansbury have won more games in college than Coach has won and all they needed to win was ONE!
that they "live and die by the 3" and the reason theywere in the final 4 was because they "got hot from behind the arc". So you want to hire a coachwho has the same strategy as Rick, the same strategy younever stop bitching about, just because his team barely snuck into the tournament (and didn't deserve it based soley on their resume)in a year with the softest bubble I can remember in my life, andjust happened to get hot from 3 at the right time? Shaka wasn't outcoaching anyone - this was luck more thananything else. His team was jacking up 3's and making 45% of them over a 5 game stretch. They cooled off againstButler and they lost.Sounds familiar. The one thing I do like about his team is theway they playdefense. That can't be denied, and I would love to see that in Starkville - but good luck getting Sidney, and other 4 & 5star SEC primadonas to play like that. I think a Shaka hire right nowwould be a knee-jerk based on a pretty lucky 5 game stretch. Let's see himhave a couple of good seasons before we annoint the guy.Wasn't he 0-2 or 0-3 against the RPI top 50entering the tournament? They had no quality wins, and several bad losses. Regardless of their performance in the tournament, they deserved to be about the 3rd or 4th team out in an historically bad year.Coach34 said:
And no needto reply, I've had my say and I'm not feeding your trolling *** any further.
Thread- Shaka Smart has won more NCAA games in his first try than The Recruiter has in 6 tries
what is BS about that?
Thats your problem and why you have to mention me in every single damn post you make on here and on Bulldawg Junction- you know the facts on The Recruiter are true- you know I'm right....and you hate to think about us firing him and losing your "insight" into Bulldog basketball
what is BS about that?
Thats your problem and why you have to mention me in every single damn post you make on here and on Bulldawg Junction- you know the facts on The Recruiter are true- you know I'm right....and you hate to think about us firing him and losing your "insight" into Bulldog basketball
VCU numbers this season:
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>Top 25</td><td align="right">2-0</td><td align="right">1.0</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 1-50</td><td align="right">8-7</td><td align="right">0.533</td></tr><tr style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><td>RPI 51-100</td><td align="right">5-2</td><td align="right">0.714</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 101-150</td><td align="right">2-1</td><td align="right">0.667</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 151-200</td><td align="right">1-1</td><td align="right">0.5</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 200+</td><td align="right">12-1</td><td align="right">0.923</td></tr></tbody></table>
by contrast, The Recruiter only has 16 or 17 wins vs the Top 50 RPI in the last6 years
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>Top 25</td><td align="right">2-0</td><td align="right">1.0</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 1-50</td><td align="right">8-7</td><td align="right">0.533</td></tr><tr style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffcc"><td>RPI 51-100</td><td align="right">5-2</td><td align="right">0.714</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 101-150</td><td align="right">2-1</td><td align="right">0.667</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 151-200</td><td align="right">1-1</td><td align="right">0.5</td></tr><tr><td>RPI 200+</td><td align="right">12-1</td><td align="right">0.923</td></tr></tbody></table>
by contrast, The Recruiter only has 16 or 17 wins vs the Top 50 RPI in the last6 years
BEFORE the post-season started? B/C my post pretty clearly said "going into the tournament". So yeah, that 5-1 record in the tournament would definitely bolster their numbers. On selection Sunday,VCU had 3 top 50 wins (no top 25).
<p jquery1301866983525="7">VCU: Record and RPI were 23-11 and 49, with top-50 wins over UCLA, Old Dominion and GeorgeMason.
Lost four of five before the Colonial conference tournament, where it lost to Old Dominion in thefinal.
And ODU & GM being RPI top 50 only serve to show how flawed the RPI really is. VCU had one quality win all season (REGULAR season since, you're 3/4 illiterate). If I was being generous, I would count ODU and give them two but GM was NOT a quality win.
I'm glad you chose to ignore my other points, but I will reiterate: they live and die by the 3, had 1 or 2 quality wins on selection sunday, and just happened to get hot from 3 during the tournament. So that makes Shaka Smart your next "can't miss" guy (like Heath, Pelfrey, Gillespie, Trent Johnson, etc, etc. etc.)? Good call buddy. You're batting about .100 on your basketball coach selections, so if I were you I would just shut the 17 up about it.
Yeah, stans should probably get replaced, but instead of picking this year's mid major coach dejoure, why don't we go after a long time Coach K assistant...or an Izzo assistant, or a Roy Williams assistant? Somebody who has been around success for a long time, not somebody who got lucky in a season where they really didn't even deserve to be in the tournament.</p>
<p jquery1301866983525="7">VCU: Record and RPI were 23-11 and 49, with top-50 wins over UCLA, Old Dominion and GeorgeMason.
Lost four of five before the Colonial conference tournament, where it lost to Old Dominion in thefinal.
And ODU & GM being RPI top 50 only serve to show how flawed the RPI really is. VCU had one quality win all season (REGULAR season since, you're 3/4 illiterate). If I was being generous, I would count ODU and give them two but GM was NOT a quality win.
I'm glad you chose to ignore my other points, but I will reiterate: they live and die by the 3, had 1 or 2 quality wins on selection sunday, and just happened to get hot from 3 during the tournament. So that makes Shaka Smart your next "can't miss" guy (like Heath, Pelfrey, Gillespie, Trent Johnson, etc, etc. etc.)? Good call buddy. You're batting about .100 on your basketball coach selections, so if I were you I would just shut the 17 up about it.
Yeah, stans should probably get replaced, but instead of picking this year's mid major coach dejoure, why don't we go after a long time Coach K assistant...or an Izzo assistant, or a Roy Williams assistant? Somebody who has been around success for a long time, not somebody who got lucky in a season where they really didn't even deserve to be in the tournament.</p>
markymark said:
In the original post you said they had zero top 50 RPI wins before the Tourney- I showed you that was wrong- they had at least 3.
"Yeah, stans should probably get replaced, but instead of picking this year's mid major coach dejoure,
why don't we go after a long time Coach K assistant...or an Izzo assistant, or a Roy Williams assistant? Somebody who has been around success for a long time, not somebody who got lucky in a season where they really didn't even deserve to be in the tournament"
Or we could hire a former Billy Donovan asst like Shaka Smart
I ignored your other ******** because it's just that- ********. Everybody throws out Heath and Grant, but its funny they forget about how I've talked about Grant, Fox, Pearl, Smart, and Marshall.
Trent Johnson has an SEC title and his whole team returning next year plus recruits...the jury hasnt come back on him yet. Quit being a moron. You guys need to shut up about him so he will quit beating our *** in the Hump.
All of this Shaka Smart talk is about to be Meaningless because he is about to sign a HUGE deal with Missouri making over $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS.
Hanmudog said:
yet they have beaten our *** in Starkville 2 of the last 3 years- and its taken last second shots the last 2 years to win in BR...
I know that you dont know what its like to have your team return intact because at State there are numerous transfers to go with graduation, but with most programs that return their entire team, you usually see significant improvement due to maturity, growth, and knowing your teammates well.
Coach34 said:
You are so full of **** it is unreal. Johnson ended a 4 game losing streak to State with that win in Starkville and last I checked the season does not start until next November so you have no 17ing clue who will be on LSU's team by then.
Edited: Because I face palmed myself for gettinginto this. Once I think I am out, they draw me back in.
Stans always has the built-in excuses, Some of us are just tired of it...
He is just not a good coach against teams outside of the SEC. He has REAL PROBLEMS trying to scout and coach against teams he has not played against before.
It's past time for a coaching change, but it's not going to happen. We will underachieve once again next year, but get into the tourney for another early exit... Rinse, Repeat...
He is just not a good coach against teams outside of the SEC. He has REAL PROBLEMS trying to scout and coach against teams he has not played against before.
It's past time for a coaching change, but it's not going to happen. We will underachieve once again next year, but get into the tourney for another early exit... Rinse, Repeat...