The guy doesn't know what an assault rifle is or how to use the phrase intent and purposes. LMAO.
First one to call on someone's grammar.
Typical. If his left wing propaganda didn't cause people to ignore him, how about his IQ?
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The guy doesn't know what an assault rifle is or how to use the phrase intent and purposes. LMAO.
First one to call on someone's grammar.
Typical. If his left wing propaganda didn't cause people to ignore him, how about his IQ?
Liberal arguments are rarely based on logic and reasoning, and most often based on emotions. This is why they are so violent, incoherent and more times than not flat out wrong on most things. They can't see the damned forest for the trees.
Example: Gun ban = Good idea. They assume criminals will follow the law.
This brings me to the conclusion that it's really not worth arguing with them. They will bring you down to their level and beat your with experience.
Example: Gun ban = Good idea. They assume criminals will follow the law.
This brings me to the conclusion that it's really not worth arguing with them. They will bring you down to their level and beat your with experience.
This is exactly what liberals advocate for at every turn. We have a RIGHT to be protected from radical Muslims, instead we have a burden of having them forced upon us by the liberal left and a POSPOTUS.
You people assault the First and Second amendments every chance you get. The order of the Bill of Rights isn't supposed to matter, but you can bet your bleeding heart that our forefathers didn't leave England because troops were being stationed in their homes or they were being forced to testify against themselves. Calling limits on free speech or gun ownership weakens us and gives more power to the government. You fools don't understand what you're actually asking for but you ask for it loudly and often.
Yep. The left is so insane and they know the majority doesn't feel in their favor so what do they do? They open the borders to change the game. They prey on retarded millenials to brainwash and they make tons of groups feel oppressed to create this fake "outrage" so they can be their savior.
The left also wants us to to basicslly have no unity at all, which is great for a future tyrannical government.
I think their ideology is pure evil and the goofs that fall for it are what Lenin would call "useful idiots."
Oh, and it will be a cold day in hell before the left ever accepted responsibility for anything or admitted their policies or ideology is flawed.
The left also wants us to to basicslly have no unity at all, which is great for a future tyrannical government.
I think their ideology is pure evil and the goofs that fall for it are what Lenin would call "useful idiots."
Oh, and it will be a cold day in hell before the left ever accepted responsibility for anything or admitted their policies or ideology is flawed.
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You want specifics I'll give you some. First of all you give countries that are harboring terrorists two weeks to give them up. If they chose not to do so then whoever harbor said terrorist faces the same same fate as the terrorists. At this point we bomb and any other means necessary until their hideouts are in ruins and completely destroy their infrastructure. Without supply lines and money they will not able fund terrorist actvities. You destroy Isis to the point that carrying out their missions is not worth it to them and cannot recruit new members. Also the countries that chose not to give up known terrorists when we leave we don't come back and build your bridges and give you money.
You attacked second amendment rights. I have yet to see my gun walk off and shoot anyone on its own. You harp on the term assault weapon by your definition alone any thing can be deemed that. Do we out law cars because of drunk drivers? What about rocks? They can be deadly. Per your logic those should be banned too.
You mentioned background checks and the no fly list. No one has said the background checks are a bad thing. The no fly list is argued againt cause literally anyone can be put on it. Probably not you cause you're liberal. You can simply be put on it for being critical of the POTUS on twitter. Once your on it you don't come off it.
Now per true liberal logic you will not address any of the valid points I made. You will call me dumb and critique my grammar.
You forgot semi-automatic matches, a.k.a. lighters. They are responsible for countless acts of arson.
Other than that, excellent post!
Sorry. Will you forgive me for not mentioning those? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
As I told the western european ideologues in the other thread, The NRA will never bend on the "no fly list" and "terrorist watch list" argument because, wait for it......
THE GD GOVERNMENT ARE THE ONES WHO DETERMINE WHO GOES ON SAID LIST and they've already shown they are willing to target just about anyone who falls into an array of categories. Forget it.
Any list or register of American firearms will ever be accepted . That in itself is the first step toward a radical government.
THE GD GOVERNMENT ARE THE ONES WHO DETERMINE WHO GOES ON SAID LIST and they've already shown they are willing to target just about anyone who falls into an array of categories. Forget it.
Any list or register of American firearms will ever be accepted . That in itself is the first step toward a radical government.
A Zippo would be a full on "assault lighter", one light and it keeps burning until it runs out of ammunition or you close the lid. Anyone can just walk into a 7-11 and buy one.
Asking people to register their firearms is really no different than asking them to turn them in. Does anyone honestly believe that a criminal is gonna register a firearm?!
If the argument is because of the mentally ill, well maybe we should open up mental hospitals like years ago and commit people that shouldn't be free in society for their safety and ours.
The US is the biggest weapons producer and exporter on earth, with the highest military expenditures and the most powerful military extant.
Does this correlate with domestic gun ownership? How is this fact reconciled with limiting gun ownership for US citizens?
Does this correlate with domestic gun ownership? How is this fact reconciled with limiting gun ownership for US citizens?
Most of my friends that are more left of center and independent fully understand the gun situation in America when you further explain the descend amendment, what it means, and show them how easy it is to:
define an array of different weapons to the term semi-auto long gun. The classification abilities to define an illegal gun would be endless and depend on the party in office (assuming the current SCOTUS).
actually make a rifle that shoots fast in a damn garage in the back yard. Gun making is easier than ever with American access to materials via the internet. Not to mention the "how to" access that google can provide you with the means to create the banned weapon anyway.
import illegal weapons to the U.S. and its porous borders. They don't understand how large and powerful the cartels in Mexico are. Lorado Texas isn't really livable anymore. They would have a new cocaine and reek havoc on people both in mexico and here in America.
I'd say there are only a few who I've ever encountered that didnt modify or completely change their anti semi- automatic viewpoints upon reasoning. Then there are the 5% of idiot gun grabbing nuts that just want them all gone.
What pisses me off is that (because I follow the law) I cannot convert any of my Semi-automatic rifles to a 3 round burst. After 1986 only rich men and ( criminals too)are allowed to do that sort of thing with the right government registration and licensing. If I were to do it, my weapons would be considered machine guns.
The haves and have nots. It's the only thing gun laws create. Thought the left was for the little guy. In the end, they feel we aren't as trustworthy as the man.
The haves and have nots. It's the only thing gun laws create. Thought the left was for the little guy. In the end, they feel we aren't as trustworthy as the man.
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Ok. I'm getting that Libs are dummies and Repugs are gun maniacs.
Are there any changes in gun laws that would be acceptable to the dummies and maniacs?
I'm of the opinion of instead of arguing about why one side or the other is awful, why not focus on some things that we as Americans can agree.
Anyone...anyone...Bueller?
Are there any changes in gun laws that would be acceptable to the dummies and maniacs?
I'm of the opinion of instead of arguing about why one side or the other is awful, why not focus on some things that we as Americans can agree.
Anyone...anyone...Bueller?
1. We already have enough guns laws.
2. We don't enforce the laws on the books.
3. Most of the gun violence debate is a red herring designed to keep the conversation away from the real problem. There's going to be fighting between certain people until the nuts get this through their heads.
Why don't you offer some solutions instead of trying to be (and failing to be) funny??
A guy at work was watching Obama on Falon via YouTube the other day and it's just so comical how the media is just a big mouthpiece for Dems. Anyways, in the video it's Obama joking he's happy that the Republicans are putting Trump out there by saying "We're happy" as if he's not the president of all the people and not just Dems. POS
He also blamed Republicans for not cooperating or reaching any understandings. That's comical. This POS and Dems don't compromise on anything yet conservatives are supposed to just work with Dems when they haven't done so at all?
I think the left are enemies and traitors. They have destroyed us yet keep blaming Republicans. If it wasn't for Republicans, they would starve to death and have no protection whatsoever.
He also blamed Republicans for not cooperating or reaching any understandings. That's comical. This POS and Dems don't compromise on anything yet conservatives are supposed to just work with Dems when they haven't done so at all?
I think the left are enemies and traitors. They have destroyed us yet keep blaming Republicans. If it wasn't for Republicans, they would starve to death and have no protection whatsoever.
Ouch.
I can say the same to you. Where are your answers?
I meant what I said about focusing on common ground. Is there any in regards to gun laws?
1. I believe we should at least make it harder for some to acquire guns legally.
2. I agree.
3. I think the real problem is how to keep people from harming other people. Here's hoping.
Enforce the laws we have!
If you are on the radar enough to be investigated by the FBI, maybe do a more exhaustive background check.
If you know of a way to keep Muslims from killing people, let us know.
An if you know how to stop crazy people from killing, I'd like to know that too.
Sounds good.
Pretty sure most people would agree with you. Let's have some statesmen get behind those sentiments.
"For in spite of itself any movement that thinks and acts in terms of an ‘ism becomes so involved in reaction against other ‘isms that it is unwittingly controlled by them. For it then forms its principles by reaction against them instead of by a comprehensive, constructive survey of actual needs, problems, and possibilities."
John Dewey
This is true in this thread.
You've got people on both sides who really think one party is "good" and the other is "evil"
Both are "evil" And yes, I will admit that I dislike the red side more because of the mixing of politics with religion (goes together like oil and water) but the percentage isn't much higher.
I just want everyone to have equal rights, church and state to be separate, taxpayer money to be spent wisely and the freedom to live my life how I see fit with as little government intervention as possible. Where is that party? The mainstream parties represent nobody but the guys trying to keep their seats and the special interest groups/donors that fund their campaigns. (Billions of dollars literally wasted on losing campaigns both ways every cycle). They're doing a great job of splitting us into two camps of hyperbolic lunatics, also as seen in this thread.
The rhetoric gets worse every four years, no matter if the president has R or D beside their name. The side not in power whines like toddlers. Blue did it under the stupid cowboy and red's done it under Muslim Barry.
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Back on topic, guns ain't going anywhere - legal or illegal. Muslims either. This stuff isn't stopping soon.
Utopia's don't exist and never will, no matter how bad the left once it too. They will continue to hang onto their views of a "perfect" world and things will continue to get worse.
What they want and the reality of what they want are two different things and they just can't seem to grasp that. They want so magical world where crime and pollution don't exist, and everyone is happy and assimilates to their views. The reality is that if they get their way it will be more like "Idiocracy".
What they want and the reality of what they want are two different things and they just can't seem to grasp that. They want so magical world where crime and pollution don't exist, and everyone is happy and assimilates to their views. The reality is that if they get their way it will be more like "Idiocracy".
Enforce current gun laws and make the punishment fit the crime.
Yeah and, if the real fight gets started then we will need our guns to keep the government a bay.
If you enforced the current laws on the books, it would deter crime as we've seen in countries that lock people up for 15 years for ANY crime committed with a weapon. We don't do that. Get informed on the topic more. The problem is the lefts refusal to enforce gun laws on criminals due to the majority of those crimes committed by African Americans and what hey see as "mass incarceration". You can't have it both ways (like the left typically wants.) they're Anti gun AND anti incarceration. There's the conflict.
On your last point, that's the utopia idealism. Good luck, especially when one side wants to empty our prisons and let criminals and felon drug dealers (which are violent offenders) back on your street corner.
If we pass some laws ,the terrorist will be out of luck because they can't break the law! Look how easy that is.
It was a good attempt but came up short. The American criminal and a terrorist are not one in the same.
Stop Terrorist = Close the damn borders and properly vet everyone that wants entry. You on a watch list, you're not entering. There used to be a thing called legal immigration, not it's just open door policy. (Yes some will slip through, but it would be better than the current way of doing things.)
Prison has become an adult day care and retreat for the rich criminals. Lets make prisons a place to be feared, and increase penalties for every jail-able offense.
We should get Michelle Obama to start a terrorism isn't cool campaign in the schools.
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Probably go over about as well as her changes to school lunches.
History has shown what happens to disarmed citizens: You should never want the government to have that type of advantage over you.
I do think a possible gun grab by the left would start a **** storm if they actually tried to take guns. That's a type of thing that would finally cause an uprise.
I really just want us to split the country. We split the military until the Dems have no use of it. We split the debt and allow vetted travel between the two territories and one side gets to live the leftist utopia and the other lives by conservative policies and ideals.
We'd love it. The left, however, would fall apart in no time when they ran out of money and no longer had evil conservatives/whitey to blame their problems on.
This way you can finally end racism, have all of the illegals and Muslims you want and you won't have to worry about those awful guns anymore.
I do think a possible gun grab by the left would start a **** storm if they actually tried to take guns. That's a type of thing that would finally cause an uprise.
I really just want us to split the country. We split the military until the Dems have no use of it. We split the debt and allow vetted travel between the two territories and one side gets to live the leftist utopia and the other lives by conservative policies and ideals.
We'd love it. The left, however, would fall apart in no time when they ran out of money and no longer had evil conservatives/whitey to blame their problems on.
This way you can finally end racism, have all of the illegals and Muslims you want and you won't have to worry about those awful guns anymore.
I feel that many Americans feel this way including myself, yet Gary Johnson won't even get on the debates with Trump and Hillary.