Should have hired this guy as recruiting coordinator! Winking
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- Thread starter BayAreaBigRed
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Rushing Defense
TA has improved like it or not
No blowout losses
Establishing a system identity
Recruiting
Media/Fan Relations
Just to name a few positives.
I agree get the tools required to do your job. I'm not anti MR. It's like complaining about your dentist when all he has to work with is forks and shovels. But if it turns out that dentist proves to be crappy with the right tools then action is required. We all want the same thing. GBR
When your left with a bunch of top 15 classes from recruiting for a few years, any good coach can come in and turn it around like Jim H did at Michigan.
I agree. If we are seeing the same results in year 4 then I understand. Give the guy the opportunity to get his players in here.
Most outsiders are saying to give the man time, if the haters wanted to appear honest. Its only within Husker nation that folks are thinking of going full retard.
DPE? AM? JW? Those are some playmakers. We need a true QB to shine in this system. Some swagger on defense after watching your offense whoop some *** will be nice to see in the future.
Serious question. Do you actually watch Nebraska football or just read about it online?
Few things:
Rush defense has improved tremendously, that is fact. With that said, the pass defense jumped off the cliff and is the worst in the country.
Armstrong has improved and it's been great to see. I do question if he's being utilized correctly relative to his strengths and weaknesses.
No blowout losses but more total losses in 8 games than the previous staff had in a season at any point. I love that Nebraska's competitive but you gotta start winning these close games. They clearly have enough talent if they're in every game, why are they unable to get over the hump?
The system identity seems to be suck at running and pray that Armstrong is on the top of his game. I'm not sure that's a sustainable path to success.
Recruiting seems to be in the eye of the beholder. Some point out the current commits are putting up video game numbers, others that the team rankings are unimpressive. I think it's a combo of both but can't fault either perspective.
Lastly fan media relations seems to be trending in the negative direction. The casual fan does not care about any excuse, legit or otherwise, if the product is poor. People can trash the previous administration all you want but he won 70% of his games. He was never 3-5. Barring massive improvement, it's going to be a much bigger uphill battle to convince the casual fan that things are going in the right direction.
I wanted a coaching change 2 years ago. I was skeptical of the hire initially and remain firmly skeptical. I'm not ready to say Riley can't win here but show us something. This team is losing to bad teams on a regular basis. My tune would be much different if he had just booted Alex Lewis a few weeks back because it would show others to get on board or get out. Show us improvements and stop excusing crap performances and you've got me all in.
Didn't see any playmakers today and they've choked in other games (other than DPE since he's been out until the last couple games) where we really needed them to step up and make crucial plays. And yes, we do need a QB, more than anything else to make this offense go. But, we had a lot of drops today and playmakers make those catches. Our wide receivers are the best playmakers, but they didn't show up this game, similar to Illinois game. They've got to help Tommy out, cuz he's too erratic with his game decisions. Unfortunately, this team goes however Tommy plays, thus lack of a playmaker or two to pick up the slack, like Ameer did. That's why I say no playmakers. They are there, but they aren't showing up every game.
Improved rush defense-at the expense of the pass defense.
TA is the same. He has always been really good when his first progression is open. If he isn't, then his numbers go down in a hurry.
No blowout losses-but haven't played anyone with a pulse -yippee
Establishing a system identity-Michigan, Florida and Houston have not seemed to struggle with new systems.
Recruiting-to be determined.
media/fan relations- we will see how long the "nice guy" gets a pass if he doesn't start winning.
I understand you going to bat for Riley...and that is great. At the same time, it is hard to argue that he is doing a good job when the team is at 3-5. At the end of the day, a coaches job is to win.
Ok assuming you're not lying id like to ask what our identity is.
Not sure if serious on the recruiting front considering we're current near the bottom of the Big Ten. You're just trolling on Tommy.
Here is the rub if we are horrible after year two and I mean no bowl like this season most likely will end then why give a guy 4 years to screw it up even worse.
This season is a write off - we have about a ten percent chance of even going bowling. So next year there must be significant improvement with or without his recruits especially defensively. If not then I say why let a guy recruit to a passing offense that would most likely have to change again.
So the bad start means he must show something really good in year two. Gradual improvement over 4 years is not going to cut it
We are establishing an Identity. Our coaches know what they want to do and are recruiting to that. Balanced Offense, Quarters Defense One Gap where LBs and DL get up field and attack the ball. Tommy has improved anyone who says otherwise is living in denial. Unfortunately Tommy may have hit his ceiling. As far as recruiting goes look at Avg star ranking not total recruits. We also have a legit shot with a ton of guys that the last staff wouldn't even have been in on.
Your posting history leads me to believe facts and reasonable conversation won't help though because you'd rather go off and complain rather than look at the bigger picture.
Ok ok, yea i missed on those guys but THE POINT WAS Bo got a star load of talent when he took over. He had 4 star guys all over the place and a nice share of 6.0 4 star guys and 5 star guys. Bo was hooked up everywhere and even still he only managed to upgrade our defense. That year we had the BEST defense in the country, hell OU only managed what, 6 points on us and they were loaded. If we had even the slightest bit of an offense that year. I truely believe with that defense we could of won the National Championship that year, that's how loaded and great that defense was.
Your posting history leads me to believe you'd rather drink the kool aid than live in reality. You're position on Tommy clearly shows it. He's the same QB this year as he was last year or may have even regressed. Because you may have read that in a message board thread somewhere doesn't make it true. Still throwing off his back foot, still making bad progressions or none at all, still missing open receivers on nearly every pass play, still throwing wild passes down field, still being Tommy. It's nice that you've completely buried your head in the sand about what is transporting this year but if you'd take your own advise and look at the big picture you'd see nothing in Mike Riley's history that would support your optimism.
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Which reminds me, God how we miss Suh, Crick, Prince, Dennard, Gomes, Haag and those guys, now i mentioned all them, Jesus we where loaded all over. Bo got handed a very good deal, any real coach with that talent would of been National Champs in year one.
Negatives:
- 3-5 record. This should be all we need to know.
- TA is completing 53% of his passes, which is identical to last year. His rushing yards per game and yards per rush a down from last year. Where's the improvement?
- No blowouts. We'll see if that holds up after MSU and Iowa. MSU especially.
- system identity? What?
- worst pass D in the nation...THE NATION!
- recruiting? Based on what?
- media/fan relations. as has already been pointed out, we'll see how this plays out if we continue to lose.
- game clock management.
So by this post you are implying one of the positions with talent problems is wr...tgere was just a ranking released that put our receivers 4th in the nation...
Rushing Defense - look at total d...lots worse than previous years. Cant just look at one side of things.
TA has improved like it or not - Yes he has
No blowout losses - havent played anyone capable of this, yet.
Establishing a system identity - not sure I see an identity with our confused offense.
Recruiting - same place where weve already been. Compare to the last 5 years rankings and the is no improvement. Possibly get some guys at the end of the year to bump our class up there, but as of now, its very similar to where we have been.
Media/Fan Relations
TA has improved like it or not - Yes he has
No blowout losses - havent played anyone capable of this, yet.
Establishing a system identity - not sure I see an identity with our confused offense.
Recruiting - same place where weve already been. Compare to the last 5 years rankings and the is no improvement. Possibly get some guys at the end of the year to bump our class up there, but as of now, its very similar to where we have been.
Media/Fan Relations
I loved the MR hire, but I don't see most of the things you do. I wished I did to be honest. I hate what's become of my favorite team. I also realize MR isn't going anywhere and am not pining for a coaching change, just being honest with what I see compared to what you see.
I guess I'm like most people that fail to see what facts you have brought to this conversation. Identity on defense, sure but offense? Improvement by TA? Recruiting improvement? I'm not seeing any of this yet. And the 'because I said so' tone in your posts doesn't really help your credibility.
Offense is balanced. Once MR gets his guys in place this offense will shine. Everyone is so blinded by the record they can't see the big picture. News flash Northwestern had a higher Avg star rating on their two deep then Nebraska. Let that sink in. Recruiting? We are actually going after kids with legitimate D1 offers and have a great shot at landing a lot of them. I've brought plenty of stats to this conversation. A little reading comprehension goes a long way. You guys keep up the doom and gloom though.
How do you figure? NW last 4 years recruiting: 54, 44, 58, and 60? This is per 247. Nebraskas classes have not been below 43rd under Pelini...
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Thanks for the info. Guess I wasnt accounting for players transferring, suspensions, injuries, etc. So I was just confused as to where that came from. Where did you pull this info from?
Guy over on the Scrolls has done one of these for every opponent we have faced. Puts a lot of things into perspective.
Also, since 2012 we have had an entire recruiting class that either transferred, kicked off the team, or are non contributors.
So are you saying you would take a few down seasons to go to a "BCS" (there were zero BCS games last year) type bowl every once in a while.
I agree. But how scary is it - for our AD to say that he's confident things are moving in the right direction? And he's leading the athletic department?
UMMMM........... last year we were 8-1 with a 5 point loss on the road against a top 5 team. We haven't faced a ranked team yet.