Should Jeb drop out NOW ???

[COOL MAN]

Take a gander at the following from that notable political commentator, The Daily Beast.....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...drop-out.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning

Putting aside (if you can) for a moment the DB is a Left-wing site......at least at those times when it published political op-eds like this.....I find myself wondering if others feel there's some reasonable basis of logic in this piece (because I think I do). Of course, Jeb's Campaign Manager could read this piece word for word to him, and possibly be asked to get the hell out of the room and never come back. That doesn't mean the piece is wrong.

Anyway, just wondering if you think there's any legitimate food for Jeb's thought here.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Take a gander at the following from that notable political commentator, The Daily Beast.....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...drop-out.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning

Putting aside (if you can) for a moment the DB is a Left-wing site......at least at those times when it published political op-eds like this.....I find myself wondering if others feel there's some reasonable basis of logic in this piece (because I think I do). Of course, Jeb's Campaign Manager could read this piece word for word to him, and possibly be asked to get the hell out of the room and never come back. That doesn't mean the piece is wrong.

Anyway, just wondering if you think there's any legitimate food for Jeb's thought here.

When I heard he was pulling in W to stump for him in SC, I said then it should be over. He won't drop out though, there is still way too much money backing him. Ashame, because he is unelectable. However, he is well entrenched with the establishment Republicans and they are not liking the outsiders coming in. I could easily see his support once he does drop out shifting to some other unelectable candidate like Christy.

I'm still in on Fiorina, Kasich, and Rubio.

 

[Airport]

When I heard he was pulling in W to stump for him in SC, I said then it should be over. He won't drop out though, there is still way too much money backing him. Ashame, because he is unelectable. However, he is well entrenched with the establishment Republicans and they are not liking the outsiders coming in. I could easily see his support once he does drop out shifting to some other unelectable candidate like Christy.

I'm still in on Fiorina, Kasich, and Rubio.

Just like a good marine, you are on that gal!

 

[WhiteTailEER]

When I heard he was pulling in W to stump for him in SC, I said then it should be over.

I'm still in on Fiorina, Kasich, and Rubio.

I'm souring on Fiorina. I go back and forth on Christie, still like Kasich and Rubio.

More to the point. Jeb should be distancing himself from his brother's legacy. I came into the whole election cycle with a "dear god, not another Bush" and "dear god, not another Clinton" thought process. The more tightly coupled Jeb becomes with his brother the more this mentality will grow with people. Unless I'm the only one that thought that way ... which I doubt.

 

[rog1187]

I'm souring on Fiorina. I go back and forth on Christie, still like Kasich and Rubio.

More to the point. Jeb should be distancing himself from his brother's legacy. I came into the whole election cycle with a "dear god, not another Bush" and "dear god, not another Clinton" thought process. The more tightly coupled Jeb becomes with his brother the more this mentality will grow with people. Unless I'm the only one that thought that way ... which I doubt.

Yes I think I'm done of re-treads (Bush and Clinton)...even if they're not the same people from before...close enough I feel. I know how Trump is getting his popularity - that's all the media seem to talk about...but how is Carson pulling in his support?

 

[WVUBRU]

Yes I think I'm done of re-treads (Bush and Clinton)...even if they're not the same people from before...close enough I feel. I know how Trump is getting his popularity - that's all the media seem to talk about...but how is Carson pulling in his support?

I think Carson is pulling support solely on being an outsider and his calm nature. His grasp of issues and ability to understand the complexity of a solution is lacking

 

[rog1187]

I think Carson is pulling support solely on being an outsider and his calm nature. His grasp of issues and ability to understand the complexity of a solution is lacking

Not that I watch a whole lot of news channels right now - mostly morning before work, but it seems like it's all Trump on every show...just don't know where Carson is getting the pub to pull the support...I guess it's just all focused in NH and Iowa right now. Carson seems like a nice guy but puts me to sleep.

 

[COOL MAN]

Yes I think I'm done of re-treads (Bush and Clinton)...even if they're not the same people from before...close enough I feel. I know how Trump is getting his popularity - that's all the media seem to talk about...but how is Carson pulling in his support?

I've been asking myself the same question; and I assume it has to do with the fact Iowans.....I don't believe he's doing as well in New Hampshire.....simply respond favorably (as BRU states) to his personal style. Of course, Trump can't be more opposite....and he's still running a pretty strong first.....so perhaps there goes that logic out the window. I admit I don't follow the nuances of the campaign that closely, but I'm wondering if Carson's personal focus on Medical Insurance reform particularly resonates with Iowans.

Speaking only for myself, I remain fairly convinced Carson is pretty close to his high-water mark, as I feel his uber-low-key style works against him as the states (and cities) get bigger, and where folks are more used to aggressive, battleground campaigns. Not that anyone cares, but I've been out of the prediction game regarding Trump since shortly after the first debate, since its pretty clear he remains the most compelling candidate to the throw-the-bums-out voter. He also continues to benefit from the love affair pretty much all media....Left and Right wing.....has for him; something Fiorina (who clearly is also benefiting from the T-T-B-O wing of the party) can only dream about thus far.

Anyway, I myself am in lockstep with WhiteTail and DD on Rubio and Kasich, but have been (and continue to be) a Christie fan. I myself would have no problem voting for CC; in fact, I'd have a decision to make if all three were on my ballot. And speaking of the ballot, I've actually got one as to which I'll select for the March 8 Ohio primary.

Strictly speaking, the only manner in which an individual "declares" a party affiliation here is thru the ballot they select for the primary election. In other words, Ohioans are free to pick a Democratic or Republican ballot card before stepping next to the hole puncher.

Currently, I myself have little interest in a Dem ballot with Hillary and Bernie (and even Biden, for that matter) as lead horses. Of course, I'm keeping my fingers crossed there will have been a fair amount of wringing-out of Republican scorecard by the time the Ohio rolls around. The Carolinas, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia come before hand; and poor performances in those states, I hope, starts getting the Republican deadwood brooms pulled from the closet with seriousness.

 

[rog1187]

I've been asking myself the same question; and I assume it has to do with the fact Iowans.....I don't believe he's doing as well in New Hampshire.....simply respond favorably (as BRU states) to his personal style. Of course, Trump can't be more opposite....and he's still running a pretty strong first.....so perhaps there goes that logic out the window. I admit I don't follow the nuances of the campaign that closely, but I'm wondering if Carson's personal focus on Medical Insurance reform particularly resonates with Iowans.

Speaking only for myself, I remain fairly convinced Carson is pretty close to his high-water mark, as I feel his uber-low-key style works against him as the states (and cities) get bigger, and where folks are more used to aggressive, battleground campaigns. Not that anyone cares, but I've been out of the prediction game regarding Trump since shortly after the first debate, since its pretty clear he remains the most compelling candidate to the throw-the-bums-out voter. He also continues to benefit from the love affair pretty much all media....Left and Right wing.....has for him; something Fiorina (who clearly is also benefiting from the T-T-B-O wing of the party) can only dream about thus far.

Anyway, I myself am in lockstep with WhiteTail and DD on Rubio and Kasich, but have been (and continue to be) a Christie fan. I myself would have no problem voting for CC; in fact, I'd have a decision to make if all three were on my ballot. And speaking of the ballot, I've actually got one as to which I'll select for the March 8 Ohio primary.

Strictly speaking, the only manner in which an individual "declares" a party affiliation here is thru the ballot they select for the primary election. In other words, Ohioans are free to pick a Democratic or Republican ballot card before stepping next to the hole puncher.

Currently, I myself have little interest in a Dem ballot with Hillary and Bernie (and even Biden, for that matter) as lead horses. Of course, I'm keeping my fingers crossed there will have been a fair amount of wringing-out of Republican scorecard by the time the Ohio rolls around. The Carolinas, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia come before hand; and poor performances in those states, I hope, starts getting the Republican deadwood brooms pulled from the closet with seriousness.

I never would have thought Trump would have made it this far. I'd like to watch a debate with less people on the stage in order to hear more specifics and not blabbering...SNL had a good skit on Trump this weekend - if I can find it I'll link it.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/donald-and-melania-trump-cold-open/2916005

 

[PriddyBoy]

Yes I think I'm done of re-treads (Bush and Clinton)...even if they're not the same people from before...close enough I feel. I know how Trump is getting his popularity - that's all the media seem to talk about...but how is Carson pulling in his support?

Some opinions:

I'll weigh in here since you opened if up to other candidates. Carson - I love this guy - I think one reason, aside from message, that he is pulling in support is that he dangles semi-controversial comments which he can later clarify on the TV networks (trumping.) Politicking has changed and some are showing how adaptive they can be. They'd better be adaptive to the electoral process and keep in mind that the voting public has been heavily swayed by soundbites, soundbytes and hair styles for quite a while.

I think Bush should stay in the race. Is this NOT one of the strangest election cycles in, oh, forever? Something cuckoo might happen. Trump could blow it, Queen Hilly may or may not be one step ahead of the jailer. F Bush and the other lying gastards, but he should stay in for now if money isn't an issue. Ugh.

I doubt we're going to elect a full blown socialist unless it's Bush or Clinton.

I like where Carly seems to be coming from, but I don't know if I can listen to a Fiorina/Clinton debate without performing a double van gogh on myself.

No matter who emerges from this mess, I hope we can ease up on who/what we're supposed to love/hate debates. At least for awhile.

 

[COOL MAN]

I saw this morning that Kasich is now down to 2% in the latest CBS Republican poll; next to last place among all the candidates, and ahead of only Rick Santorum :weary:

I'll weigh in here since you opened if up to other candidates. Carson - I love this guy - I think one reason, aside from message, that he is pulling in support is that he dangles semi-controversial comments which he can later clarify on the TV networks (trumping.) Politicking has changed and some are showing how adaptive they can be. They'd better be adaptive to the electoral process and keep in mind that the voting public has been heavily swayed by soundbites, soundbytes and hair styles for quite a while..

Meanwhile, I heard Carson on Face the Nation this morning, and regrettably found him difficult on which to pay ongoing attention. It's hardly a secret that verbal passion isn't his personal strength, but he tried to "clarify" one of those semi-controversial points in the interview.....about Hitler (and armed German citizens).....and he came off (to me) like some not-especially-well-informed fellow yakking to his neighbors on his patio

As much as I happen to like the guy personally and greatly respect his accomplishments as a professional, I have to say the more he tries to play the righteously-indignant political role......which are Cruz and Fiorina and Trump strengths.....the less he seems capable of pulling it off. I'm now beginning to think (or realize) he's one of those candidates whose candidacy is actually better served by sound-bites rather than speeches.