Embarrassing, 70% of the conTerence makes the tourney.
Only two teams remain.
They lost a 1,3,6,6,9
Only two teams remain.
They lost a 1,3,6,6,9
Should the B12 change how they play?
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I know this is meant to be sarcastic but it actually proves a very good point.
B12 has clearly been the best conference all year and has quick guard play and uptempo offenses. Not much emphasis on defense.
Don’t worry all the B1G fans will find some way to be apologetic here but not in defending our league.
B12 has clearly been the best conference all year and has quick guard play and uptempo offenses. Not much emphasis on defense.
Don’t worry all the B1G fans will find some way to be apologetic here but not in defending our league.
Clearly overrated. What conference has the best record in the Tourney? And what’s their style of play? I hereby anoint them the best conference. Whoever it is and whatever the play style.
But the Big East champs lost to the 4th ranked BIG team.I give up.
The whole confrence success thing in tournmwnt is way overblown
Once the teams are elected It’s about programs …not leagues…. in the NCAA tournmwnt
Once the teams are elected It’s about programs …not leagues…. in the NCAA tournmwnt
As fans, I think we draw too many conclusions out of a one-and-done tournament every year. And I know the OP is being sarcastic in this case, but fans and media do this every year. Would these teams lose a five game series, a seven game series to these opponents? We'll never know the answer to that, but I don't think you can dismiss what these teams and leagues do all year.
Anyone can pick and choose examples to the contrary, which will always occur, but the bottom line is no conference gets more teams in and consistently under-performs than the B1G.
Over what period of time? Seems like a 3-5 year trend to me, but I haven't crunched any numbers and don't really care to.
Definitely at least the last 3-5 years but the fact that they haven’t won a championship in 23 years with probably more bids than any other conference while consistently considered to be one of the 3 or 4 strongest, and it’s amplified.
The funny thing is the Big Ten gets more teams in usually because they perform better vs the other conferences during the regular season. They have a better record vs the Big East and the ACC over the past 5 year. For some reason they perform better early and not as strong late. Ultimately it all comes down to talent. I think NIL will help the big ten schools the most. So we’ll see.
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I actually stopped being lazy and took a look at recent Final Fours. The league has landed teams in it over the period spanning 2014-19 (Michigan, MSU and Wisconsin). But overall, there have been too many early exits from the league's higher seeds during the past few years. The Purdue thing has stood out like a sore thumb.
Shack- you know I agree with you in general. The problem as I see it is thst the "B1G sucks" narrative is so prominent and easy to state right now, that I think it's wishful thinking to assume it won't hurt the # of bids in the following year. If this were a one year anomaly, then fine....but this is a multi year phenomenon that the national media is rallying around.
We all know it's not SUPPOSED TO matter...but if there's anything I learned from this years screw job, it's that the committee doesn't really follow the guidelines they have stated they follow.
This is going to hurt us...we will likely need to finish 6th or higher to not sweat out selection sundays
B10 underperformance has gotten to the point where there has to be a few variables that are influencing the underperformance. What they exactly are and if anything can be done about it are the big questions.
One conclusion could be that the computers really only have November and December to use to evaluate conferences as that's when 95-99% of the OOC games happen AND B1G really isn't as good as what BART or KEN may say.
My question is what happens from NOv-DEC to Mid March that makes our teams worse and other teams better.
The team that won the BET is out.
UCONN loses on Friday
Creighton gets blown out on Friday
Xavier loses in final on Saturday
Marquette wins it all and is out.
20 conference games is too much and it’s a grind . I doubt they move off 20 with the expansion coming . But they really should consider it
Michigan State only caring about basketball starting March 15th doesn’t mean the B1G conference is great, and Purdue losing to a 17 seed every year doesn’t mean the B1G conference stinks. Like someone said it’s about programs, not conferences in this silly single elimination tournament. 2 of the 16 teams are from Conference USA and the dang Ivy League
But does that mean the conference is overrated or weak? You have power more concentred in conference like the ACC or with a team like Gonzaga or Houston. Are they great conferences or just have great teams?
Agreed it’s not hard. Lots of very good teams but lack of elite teams. The top 12 big teams had very little separation.
Kentucky has won one NCAA tourney win in 3 seasons
North Carolina didn't make the field.
Arizona lost Princeton
Too much emphasis placed on conference affiliation
There way be something to the makeup of SEC and Big 12 schools that currently is advantageous. The Big 10 and ACC need to tap into that
North Carolina didn't make the field.
Arizona lost Princeton
Too much emphasis placed on conference affiliation
There way be something to the makeup of SEC and Big 12 schools that currently is advantageous. The Big 10 and ACC need to tap into that
They have great teams. However, with all the chances the B1G has had, it’s truly amazing they haven’t had a championship in 23 years.
Opportunity for RU and Pike to be that elite team. If he brings in the talent we are close to bringing in, we have a real good shot.
The "problem" with that top talent is when it comes to winning NCAA Tournament games if they're truly top talent they're only around for a year, maybe two.
The BIG is fine. We have a team in the sweet 16 plus an incoming team in UCLAstill alive. And 5 BIG schools of 8 won their first game. That’s not an awful showing. It’s average. 6 of our 8 schools were not supposed to make it past the first weekend. We had one disappointment in Purdue offset by Michigan State out performing. Indiana lost in a 4/5 pick em game.
The SEC is the conference looking really good overall right now.
The SEC is the conference looking really good overall right now.