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No, don't want the drama and I a guy was in trouble for some type I drug crime I would want him off the team. We basically went through this question Jalen Steele got kicked off the team
No. I would consider it if Renardo didn't leave such a bad aftertaste. But I would rather us fly under the radar for a while than take another ********.
Hell No.
I didn't even like having Sidney on the team but at least he didn't have multiple arrests, two jail stints, an array of failed drug tests, and run around the court like a coked out of his mind chimpanzee.
Karma has a way of biting MSU in the *** when we take chances like Henderson. Hopefully the same will happen to Ole Miss.
I didn't even like having Sidney on the team but at least he didn't have multiple arrests, two jail stints, an array of failed drug tests, and run around the court like a coked out of his mind chimpanzee.
Karma has a way of biting MSU in the *** when we take chances like Henderson. Hopefully the same will happen to Ole Miss.
Think that State may have learned the lesson ...
when Stans signed one time 5*, all-state, McDonald's All-American, super-star (just ask him) ... Renardo Sidney
when Stans signed one time 5*, all-state, McDonald's All-American, super-star (just ask him) ... Renardo Sidney
ole miss fans try to justify Henderson because, after all, we had Sidney, but they must forget that the overwhelming majority of our fanbase hated Sidney.
With that said, I wouldn't want Henderson near any team of mine. Attitude, aggressiveness, confidence, etc... All of those things are things you want, but his is at an almost dangerous level for any team. Murphy Holloway made Ole Miss a tournament team last year. Not Marshall Henderson.
With that said, I wouldn't want Henderson near any team of mine. Attitude, aggressiveness, confidence, etc... All of those things are things you want, but his is at an almost dangerous level for any team. Murphy Holloway made Ole Miss a tournament team last year. Not Marshall Henderson.
Honestly? No. We learned our lesson rolling the dice with Sidney. No need for another failed experiment.
Maybe, but only because I think Andy Kennedy is a terrible coach and gives him too free a reign. If a MSU coach thought they could get him to play more within a system and not take so many awful shots, I wouldn't second guess taking a risk on the guy.
Simple answer. NO! This is how I look at this. Do I want my kid to be influenced by someone like Marshall because he plays basketball for my college team(and my son's team) that I pull for? Hell no! And I have friends that are Rebels who have kids the same age as mine. They think Marshall Henderson is GREAT. Have pictures and autographs with him. Even had one do the freaking rooster thing on the soccer field. To the dad's credit, he about yanked the kid out of his cleats when he did it. I don't care how good he is at basketball, I don't want that at our school and I don't want my kid to act anything like him. Yes, we had Renardo, but not a single person from 5 to 75 wanted to be his lazy ***.
What I find so funny is that Marshall pretty much knows he owns AK til he's gone because Marshall saved Kennedy's job and got him another contract. I mean he got busted with cocaine in his car this offseason and supposedly has failed a few drug test as well. This after us all being fed a line of ******** when Henderson signed that he would have to follow strict guildelines to play basketball for the Rebels. Henderson would've been booted off of damn near every major college team by now if he'd done all he's done in his 1 and 1/2 in Oxford. He would've lasted less than a week if Rick Ray was his coach.
What I find so funny is that Marshall pretty much knows he owns AK til he's gone because Marshall saved Kennedy's job and got him another contract. I mean he got busted with cocaine in his car this offseason and supposedly has failed a few drug test as well. This after us all being fed a line of ******** when Henderson signed that he would have to follow strict guildelines to play basketball for the Rebels. Henderson would've been booted off of damn near every major college team by now if he'd done all he's done in his 1 and 1/2 in Oxford. He would've lasted less than a week if Rick Ray was his coach.
I didn't even think about that
Glad I don't have to hear my younger kin playing ball in the driveway saying "3....2.... Marshall Henderson from the line.....1..... and it goes in, Bulldogs win."
Glad I don't have to hear my younger kin playing ball in the driveway saying "3....2.... Marshall Henderson from the line.....1..... and it goes in, Bulldogs win."
Renardo > Henderson, and I hate that he went to MSU. What an embarrassment for both schools, but at least Renardo wasn't a felon. Probably is, but at least hasn't been caught.
That went GREAT for us by the way.
ETA: True story, a buddy of mine saw him at Sports Center in Starkville buying a handgun. The two are no different. Their success on the court, because let's not kid ourselves... Renardo was a great player when he wanted to be... was and will be short lived.
That went GREAT for us by the way.
ETA: True story, a buddy of mine saw him at Sports Center in Starkville buying a handgun. The two are no different. Their success on the court, because let's not kid ourselves... Renardo was a great player when he wanted to be... was and will be short lived.
No. I couldn't stand having Sidney on the team and was embarrassed that our Coach was incapable of kicking him off of it. Hell, I even thought our AD should have stepped in when the fight happened in Hawaii.
That being said, I don't think Sidney is really that great of a comparison. He had the most raw talent on our team and natural size to play basketball. While he was here he didn't use that talent and size effectively except in a very few small flashes. If Renardo had been our entire team like Henderson is for OM, I think some of our fans may sing a slightly different tune about him. I am 100% certain that I would not be one of those people. The only real similarities of Renardo and Henderson is their piss poor attitudes. Henderson's effort on the court makes Renardo look foolish.
I like the way that Ray is running the team from a discipline, team chemistry, and effort standpoint. Henderson would ruin all of that and he isn't worth it.
That being said, I don't think Sidney is really that great of a comparison. He had the most raw talent on our team and natural size to play basketball. While he was here he didn't use that talent and size effectively except in a very few small flashes. If Renardo had been our entire team like Henderson is for OM, I think some of our fans may sing a slightly different tune about him. I am 100% certain that I would not be one of those people. The only real similarities of Renardo and Henderson is their piss poor attitudes. Henderson's effort on the court makes Renardo look foolish.
I like the way that Ray is running the team from a discipline, team chemistry, and effort standpoint. Henderson would ruin all of that and he isn't worth it.
You cannot control Marcus Henderson. He basically has a babysitter and they still can't keep him from screwing up off the court.
Only if I was the coach and about to lose my job. Short term, I think it'd be pretty good for us. Our team would actually be a pretty good fit for him. His terrible shots wouldn't hurt us as bad because we already take a lot of terrible shots by virtue of having bad shooters out there. And Sword would benefit greatly both from having a shooter to kick out from and also from the defense chasing Henderson around. He'd hurt us on defense, but I think the improvement on offense would more than make up for it.
In the medium and long term, I'm not sure how you can justify having him around your other players. Even if the players don't pick up any bad habits, it has to effect the respect they have for the coach. I just don't see how you let somebody engaging in self-destructive activities like that keep playing with no consequences without the players determining that your career comes before the players well being. Maybe you can convince the team that somebody like Henderson can't be helped, and you might as well benefit from his services before he crashes and burns, but it seems like that'd be even worse for team chemistry and their respect for the coach, especially if the other players like Henderson at all (which I would assume if nothing else they like his competitiveness on the court).
We wouldn't take Henderson because we've learned our lesson. Guys like Sydney and Steele basically cost Stans his job and brought our program down. We had a damn good thing going until Stans started bringing in these head cases.
Ole Missy will take chances because they've never had a coach as good as Stans or near as much success in b-ball as State has. Henderson may be the most interesting man on campus for now but just give him time and he'll parallel park the ole miss gravy train in a road side ditch. They'll learn, the hard way.
Ole Missy will take chances because they've never had a coach as good as Stans or near as much success in b-ball as State has. Henderson may be the most interesting man on campus for now but just give him time and he'll parallel park the ole miss gravy train in a road side ditch. They'll learn, the hard way.
Stansbury and Kennedy both took risks on players with known character issues because they needed to upgrade their talent. Stansbury hit a stretch where he couldn't get high character, high talent guys he had been bringing in and he had to choose whether to downgrade talent or downgrade character. Kennedy wasn't on a downslope necessarily, he was just running out of time to hit an upslope.
Stansbury's risks sunk him and Kennedy's risk got him an extension. Most likely the next time we have a coach on the hotseat, he'll make the same decision, although maybe the AD would step in for the most serious risk after all the trouble Renardo caused them.
Also, do Sydney and Steele really belong in the same sentence? I would say after Sydney, Ravern and Kodi were the next two worst character guys Stansbury signed. Steele seemed to play hard enough while he was on teh court and wasn't openly disrespectful to Stansbury. Even if he was smoking a ton of pot and failing drug tests, I'm not sure that would put him in the top 3 or 4 as far as mistakes Stansbury signed.
Nope
Are you asking searching for justification of having him? All we hear about is the clllaaaaaassss of UM and their representatives. UM fans throw classless around at Nikoe Whitley but cheer a felon on the court that has ZERO concept of the word team. Henderson is about Henderson. Kennedy has went beyond looking the other way with him.... He has become an enabler.
Stans was an enabler too.... And now he is sitting on a tractor waiting for warm weather so he can play around his water park.
Are you asking searching for justification of having him? All we hear about is the clllaaaaaassss of UM and their representatives. UM fans throw classless around at Nikoe Whitley but cheer a felon on the court that has ZERO concept of the word team. Henderson is about Henderson. Kennedy has went beyond looking the other way with him.... He has become an enabler.
Stans was an enabler too.... And now he is sitting on a tractor waiting for warm weather so he can play around his water park.
This is fact. Renardo's problem was the he played miles below his god given ability. Henderson plays above his. He gets too much credit for being a scorer because of his number of shots, but I would never say that he doesn't give100% on the court.
But to answer the original question:
Right now? No
Two years ago when UM got him and we were struggling to have enough players to scrimmage? Probably.
Two years ago, I had no idea who marshall henderson was or what kind of trouble he could be. I just knew he was a talented player who had some trouble off the court. Right now, he wouldn't make us a tournament team, and would definitely not be allowed the green light he is at UM.
We both have to take chances on these kinds of players. Jeremiah Masoli, Marshall Henderson, Cam Newton, Renardo Sidney. The important thing is how you treat them when they get on campus. Masoli behaved himself. Newton at Auburn mostly did the same. Henderson and Sidney were given way too much leeway at their respective schools. I firmly believe that Sidney cost Stansbury his job. Not the fact that he brought him in, but the fact that he retained him.
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When the 17 did Steele become some social outcast untouchable?
Lets try to keep from including him when discussing how much of a cancer Sidney was.