Simply Unbelievable...
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That is ********.
I am not going to argue that wv high schools are bastions of learning but there are schools in WV that are very good.
Bet the teachers can teach them how to multiply by 5%
Wait....what did you post? Do you have a link?
https://wveis.k12.wv.us/essa/dashboard.htmlBet the teachers can teach them how to multiply by 5%
Wait....what did you post? Do you have a link?
It's time for the education system to take a step back and prepare kids for the "real world". We all probably agree that not every kid should be taking Geometry or higher. And if I'm not mistaken, the standardized tests are on the higher level maths. What ever happened to teaching kids going to college the higher maths and those not the other lower level EVERY DAY math classes? Is that a bad thing?
If I read that right they give a grade to all schools and not to schools specifically or grouped by county.
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You wording in that first post still confuses me, but holy mother of god. That is bleak AF. Tho their pdf says we are 35% proficient in math (not really something to celebrate either)
https://wveis.k12.wv.us/essa/docs/annualtarget.pdf
When we lived in KY, my kids went to a Blue Ribbon School. One the best in KY. They did not buy math books and used the new math curricula. They did focus on creative writing and the arts. When we moved to PA, it was the opposite. My son graduated from PSU but had to get tutors for all of his math classes.
My youngest just took her first college algebra for business majors class yesterday at WVU. She got a 100% and was very proud. The class avg. was 68%. My oldest daughter who is a Sr. at WVU never struggled in any of her math classes and her boyfriend who will graduate in engineering this year was well prepared for the advanced math classes in the major. He went to Wheeling Park.
My youngest just took her first college algebra for business majors class yesterday at WVU. She got a 100% and was very proud. The class avg. was 68%. My oldest daughter who is a Sr. at WVU never struggled in any of her math classes and her boyfriend who will graduate in engineering this year was well prepared for the advanced math classes in the major. He went to Wheeling Park.
If you really want to fix poorly performing Government run schools, get the Government out of running schools.
Private schools don't have systemic problems getting kids to meet minimum standards. Most exceed them. Open up education to private competition, watch those achievmemt scores take off.
Private schools don't have systemic problems getting kids to meet minimum standards. Most exceed them. Open up education to private competition, watch those achievmemt scores take off.
Do private schools do standardized tests? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.
I think you can make a strong argument that the kids who go to private schools are generally at least upper middle class, and there is a positive correlation between family income levels and performance in school. I think you could similarly argue that the kids who are not at least upper middle class and attend private school have parents who take a strong interest in their children's educations. That's an even better predictor of positive results for students.
I agree 100% that upper class kids have an advantage but like everything else, the bell curve is alive and well. These kids will get into college but after that the advantage gets taken away. I have about 20 examples living 20 miles from me today. In fact the upper class is starting are hurting their kids in todays world not helping them.
The one I attended did them every year. Pretty sure it was required by law for them to do it but the school also used it to measure educated growth vs national standards and used it in placement the next year.
I agree that helicopter parenting is hurting kids more than it helps them. We had a couple of really good math teachers in our high school. They did a good job of prepping me for college. They're classes weren't easy, but you learned a lot. I talked to them several years ago, and they told me that they were forced to ease up on the curriculum because it was too hard for students. That was after they had been teaching the same curriculum for at least a decade prior.
I remember when parents took the side of the teacher when students were struggling in school. Now the class is too hard, or the teacher doesn't understand how hard life is for the kid, or some other excuse why their little angel isn't at fault.
What happened to general math ? Not all are college bound . Only time i ever stepped foot in a college was to replace the boiler or chillers, well now to get my daughter. Im already at 140,000 $ , not bad . She will make the 3rd college degree i pay for . Guess my rant is more about, stop acting like we are all the same with the same abilities..need to focus more on history.
Of course. Get the government out of everything but where you support government involvement. Hypocrisy as always
Perhaps a major problem is that more than 20% of the students in WV are considered "habitually truant". Blaming the schools or teachers when the parents aren't sending their kids to school.........logical.
What these private school advocates on here are not telling you is this: ALL schools must show some sort of "testing". The private schools do NOT have to use the same standardized tests that public schools do, as long as their test is considered "adequate". So, private schools can write their own test while public schools have to take a blind test that is the same school to school....when we all know that people are NOT all the same in cultural background.....thus leading to people claiming "cultural bias of tests".
Money/education level/success of the parents drive school performance, but it does not tell the entire story. It's the turtle and the hare. The affluent kids may race out in front, but they can't finish, something soft kids are having a problem doing.
My family has moved 5 times and my 3 kids were all born in different states. The #1 criteria in buying a house was the school rankings. We traded a private education for allowing my wife to stay home with the kids. We always bought a house in the best school system in the area. 100% of the time. By doing this we were always in the middle strata of the income curve in that system and I make pretty good money.
You saying that "partially" equates to "meeting the standard" ? I think you are confused.
Here...take it up with the this guy.....I only cut and pasted from his story.
By Brad McElhinny in News | September 12, 2019 at 1:14PM
Here is link: http://wvmetronews.com/2019/09/12/a...hools-are-missing-mark-on-student-attendance/
"If you count the number of schools that don’t meet the standard and then divide by the total number of schools, you find that 86 percent of West Virginia high schools don’t meet the standard for math. Sixteen percent partially meet the standard. And no high school in West Virginia fully meets or exceeds the math standard."
What a poorly written paragraph.
"If you count the number of schools that don’t meet the standard and then divide by the total number of schools, you find that 86 percent of West Virginia high schools don’t meet the standard for math. Sixteen percent partially meet the standard. And no high school in West Virginia fully meets or exceeds the math standard."
What a poorly written paragraph.
Probably because you can't post a f'n link. lol.
I didn't say the poorly written paragraph was by you. Pretty obvious I meant from the article.
Just heard this on the radio this morning. People are saying it is a parent problem other tan a student problem. 20% of students have missed 18 days or more. Can't learn math that way
West Virginia’s public education system has a major student attendance problem; too many students are missing too many days of instruction.
The newest figures from the Balanced Scorecard on public school achievement are out, and while there are the usual concerns over math and English Language Arts scores, the most troubling numbers are revealed during morning roll call.
More than one-third (38 percent) of all public schools in the state (elementary, middle, and high school) failed to meet the standard for attendance. That means at least 20 percent of the students missed 18 or more days a year, meaning they were chronically absent.
The worst attendance is at the high school level. The data show that 59 percent of the state’s high schools fail to meet even the minimum standard for attendance. Thirty-five percent partially meet the standard, while just six percent meet or exceed the standard.
State School Superintendent Steve Paine is not sugarcoating the results, which are worse than last year—the first year for the Balanced Scorecard—when 31 percent of all schools had chronic absenteeism issues.
“We have more schools this year than last who have students who missed 18 or more days of school,” Paine said. “That’s unfathomable. It’s not acceptable, and I’m really upset about it.”
The high school students math scores are terrible—86 percent of high schools do not meet the minimum standard. English Language Arts scores are better—78 percent at least partially meet the standard. However, how can the schools make significant progress when at over half of the high schools at least one in five students is chronically absent?
There are mounds of research showing the link between attendance and achievement. “Children who are chronically absent have lower levels of school readiness upon entering kindergarten, are less likely to read at grade level by the third grade, show lower levels of social engagement, are more likely to drop out of school, and are less likely to graduate from high school or attend college,” reported the National Education Association.
It gets worse from there. Dropouts are more likely to be stuck in low paying jobs, become parents at a young age and end up in trouble with the law. The rest of society suffers as a result because it must assume the additional burden created by the underachievers.
Paine is putting pressure on the local school systems to do a better job on attendance. “We have not held local school boards accountable for results,” Paine said. “If they want more flexibility, they need to step up and accept responsibility.”
There is near universal agreement in West Virginia that we need better public education outcomes. We also know this is a significant challenge because of high rates of poverty and the opioid epidemic.
In many cases, our public schools, teachers, counselors and administrators provide the only stability in a child’s life. But it’s hard to help those kids if they’re not in the building, and overall academic achievement will always been limited if large percentages of our students simply don’t go to school.
West Virginia’s public education system has a major student attendance problem; too many students are missing too many days of instruction.
The newest figures from the Balanced Scorecard on public school achievement are out, and while there are the usual concerns over math and English Language Arts scores, the most troubling numbers are revealed during morning roll call.
More than one-third (38 percent) of all public schools in the state (elementary, middle, and high school) failed to meet the standard for attendance. That means at least 20 percent of the students missed 18 or more days a year, meaning they were chronically absent.
The worst attendance is at the high school level. The data show that 59 percent of the state’s high schools fail to meet even the minimum standard for attendance. Thirty-five percent partially meet the standard, while just six percent meet or exceed the standard.
State School Superintendent Steve Paine is not sugarcoating the results, which are worse than last year—the first year for the Balanced Scorecard—when 31 percent of all schools had chronic absenteeism issues.
“We have more schools this year than last who have students who missed 18 or more days of school,” Paine said. “That’s unfathomable. It’s not acceptable, and I’m really upset about it.”
The high school students math scores are terrible—86 percent of high schools do not meet the minimum standard. English Language Arts scores are better—78 percent at least partially meet the standard. However, how can the schools make significant progress when at over half of the high schools at least one in five students is chronically absent?
There are mounds of research showing the link between attendance and achievement. “Children who are chronically absent have lower levels of school readiness upon entering kindergarten, are less likely to read at grade level by the third grade, show lower levels of social engagement, are more likely to drop out of school, and are less likely to graduate from high school or attend college,” reported the National Education Association.
It gets worse from there. Dropouts are more likely to be stuck in low paying jobs, become parents at a young age and end up in trouble with the law. The rest of society suffers as a result because it must assume the additional burden created by the underachievers.
Paine is putting pressure on the local school systems to do a better job on attendance. “We have not held local school boards accountable for results,” Paine said. “If they want more flexibility, they need to step up and accept responsibility.”
There is near universal agreement in West Virginia that we need better public education outcomes. We also know this is a significant challenge because of high rates of poverty and the opioid epidemic.
In many cases, our public schools, teachers, counselors and administrators provide the only stability in a child’s life. But it’s hard to help those kids if they’re not in the building, and overall academic achievement will always been limited if large percentages of our students simply don’t go to school.
Sorry you got your panties all wadded up.
I NEVER implied you thought the article was written by me. I do believe that I did provide a ***** link that showed the results that the article was referencing.
May you and others should be more concerned about the performance of our schools instead of how an article was written.
I don't think it's a mystery. I tgink that comes down to involved parents who emphasize the importance of education. That's the number 1 predictor of successful students. I know that was a thing with my parents. My dad was adamant that we would go to college. He and my mom were involved and made school our top priority. Extracurricular activities were fine, but school work came first, and everything else was gravy.
So many parents with drug problems in this State also. If they are focusing on drugs then they are probably not focusing on there kids future. So sad
No doubt......it's all about the parents and home environment.......as well as today's social views. I would bet that most Asian/American households are two parent.....and I would also bet that Asian/Americans are least affected by the drug/opioid problem.
I wish we did more to make parents more accountable for their kids well being. Unfortunately, they have the right to suck at parenting and there’s not much we can do about it. I wish schools had parents sign something saying they’ll be responsible for homework completion.