Slickdawgs theory on Penn State

[slickdawg]

Monday, ESPN reports that McQueary his hired an employment type attorney. Not a criminal defense attorney. This is the type of attorney you get for HR matters, such as being a whistleblower. He's
got whistleblower written all over him. Penn State trustees did not fire him
along with Paterno and the pres. They clearly stated that he would be
coaching on Saturday, the only decision was would he be on the sideline
or in the box. They only put him on administrative leave because of
death threats and concerns for his safety. If you were going to fire him you would have already.

Sunday, the head of the Second Mile turned in his resignation.

Paterno has hired a criminal defense attorney.

The Big 10 dumped Paterno from its championship trophy.

None of the reports or grand jury indictments say McQueary did or did not take action when he saw Sandusky pumping the child on the shower. Because of this void, everyone assumes he just walked away. Just maybe he broke it up, and clearly shaken, goes home and calls dad, dad tells him they (him and dad) will talk to Paterno the next day. What was said in that meeting is not published anywhere. This might be exactly why Paterno hired a criminal defense attorney.

I'm beginning to think that McQueary watched as Penn State did nothing
and decided to blow the whistle and go outside "the family" and report
this. <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">If </span>this is the case, the dude should be given a presidential
medal of honor. The Penn State "family" is the most disgusting, corrupt thing I've ever seen. When you make it a priority to cover up raping children to protect your blessed football coach, you have major issues. Out of 15 years, and quite possibly more, he did what nobody else would do - tell the truth of what is going on. The janitors saw, they didn't tell a soul for fear of reprisal. If he indeed told the cops and this all got swept under the rug, there is going to be a justice department wrath on PSU like you've never seen. It will make Watergate look like a jaywalking incident. The missing/dead DA, God knows what happened there.

Now I could be wrong here, maybe McQueary simply told the truth of what he saw while under oath with the grand jury. If that's the case, fry him. I just have a feeling that is not the case.

 

[weblow]

I don't know about 100% but I got a feeling this guy has all his stuff documented and is fixing to make this entire thing blow up bigger than it already is.

 

[Shmuley]

why does McQueary wait 9.5 years to drop the dime?

 

[mstatefan88]

I think McQueary finds out about all of this stuff and says "Hey, I know Paterno knows everything that is going on, and after I caught Sandusky, he's probably not likely to try anything else on campus." So if McQueary like this new report saysreported it and also stopped it, he is in the clear.

So the university does nothing about it, and now he's holdingon to this bombshell. And if Paterno did know everything Sandusky did, what a perfect opportunity to blow the lid off of his integrity and completely ruin him just before he breaks the wins record, not after when all the press is glowing on him and he's already broken the record. I think McQueary has a ton of information, and I think hestrategically blew thisopen at the time he did to tarnish Paterno just before he got the wins record. It's just a theory, but if McQueary really wanted to stick it toPaterno AND cover his *** by reporting the incident and stopping, then the way this has played out will vindicate him and only implicate Joe Pa further.

The sad part is that if that's what he did, him holding on to this information put a bunchof other kids needlessly in harms way, and that sickens me.I certainly hope this isn't the case.

 

[patdog]

This would have been just as big of a story in 2002 as it is today. McQuery is just as guilty as Paterno is in covering this up. The police/DA has been investigating this for close to a year now, so McQuery would have had to go to them a year ago somehow knowing that there wouldn't be any indictments until after Paterno got the record. The only way he would have gone to them then would be if his conscious finally got the better of him. I have no idea why the indictments came right after Paterno got the record, but my best guess is that it's just a coincidence. If it's not, it's because someone in the DA/AG's office decided to let Paterno get the record before they took him down.

 

[DerHntr]

the fact that McQuery went to work for years and saw Sandusky there and was able to make it through the day without kicking his ***. I'm thinking there was some quid pro quo for McQuery's rise to assistant coach. Sure Joe has a lot of guys on staff who developed from within the Penn State system, but this doesn't mean McQuery was truly qualified or competent enough to be one of those who gets hired from the ranks of GA. He very likely could have kept his mouth shut for a job.

 

[RocketDawg]

McQueary was still a Graduate Assistant at age 28 ... which, assuming he had no other job, means he was a GA for 6 or 7 years after graduation. Then all of a sudden he starts getting promotions. If he was good enough after 7 years, he was probably good enough to have gotten out of such a subservient role earlier. Sounds to me like his meteoric rise after the incident can only mean one thing ... he was paid off with promotions to keep quiet.<div>
</div><div>And even if that's not the case, it doesn't explain why he just dropped the subject, given what he'd seen and supposedly broke up. He should have pursued it to the top if no action was taken ... pursued it all the way to the FBI if necessary. I'm not sure if they'd have jurisdiction in the case, but they sure could've applied pressure to the local and state police.</div><div>
</div><div>I don't think McQueary is lilly white in this thing.</div>

 

[Guy From Gulfport]

Nobody innocent, here.

 

[lazlow]

them not knowing that sandusky was the biggest perv in the valley is abuncha horse$hit.

 

[MedDawg]

In 2009 a victim's mother reported her son's incident with Sandusky to the kid's school. Then the school district banned Sanduskyand by law informed the state (I guess the PA Attorney General's office), then the AG started an investigation, and the AG/Grand Jury took 2 years to do interviews, etc. The AG made his presentment, the 25 page summary(the entire GJ proceedings would likely be hundreds of pages). The presentment was "accidentally" made public or leaked, then the AG arrested Sandusky, and everything happened quickly. Also, keep in mind that the presentment is the prosecutor's side and made to look as bad as possible in order to make an indictment (I'm not a lawyer, but that's what I've read). However, in this situation, it's pretty clear that even the most minor accusations against Sanduskyshouldstill becriminal.

Paterno breaking Eddie Robinson's 408 winrecord wasn't nearly as news worthy as Paterno passing Bear Bryant in 2003. Either way,nothing in this whole scandalhad to do with McQuery waiting.McQuery had his interview with the GJ as did Paterno, the PSU AD and VP, victims and their parents, the police, etc. It all came out when the presentment became public. I'm not even sure if Sandusky would have even been arrested yetif that document hadn't leaked out.

Again, as I wrote in the other thread, it is ridiculous to blame Penn State fans/players/students for any of this.Everyone seems to assume that every PSU coach and administrator'had to know', but2-3 years of investigation by the Attorney General found only4-5 Penn State people involved (along with some police/DA and some administrators in The Second Mile), and all were fired within a week.

Maybe more Penn State people will be found out when the whole AD/GJ investigation comes out or if there is a trial. But I could see there NEVER being a (criminal)trial--Sandusky could plead down, the perjury charges against the AD and VP could be dropped, and we may never know who knew what when. A civil trial might not reveal any more than we know right now, but I'm not sure.

The (alleged) pedophilia acts by Sandusky are horrible, and if he is guilty, should spend a long time in jail. Should each person that knew have done more? Absolutely. But2-3 year investigation by the AG/GJ did not reveal any coverup and no one has been charged with that. If further investigation reveals a true conspiracy to cover Sandusky'sacts up, then those people should also go to jail.</p>

 

[freddawg]

I believe that the grand jury did believe there was a cover up. That's why the AD and the VP were charged with perjury. That was probably all the grand jury felt they had enough evidence to charge at that point. I've heard it said that perjury is the prosecutor's charge of last resort. On the flip side, it looks like they gave Joe Paterno a pass for saying the exact same thing that got the AD and the VP charged, though.

 

[PONYfun]

McQueary probably saw exactly what he said he saw in the grand jury report, and I don't know why he didn't kill Sandusky then and there. However, after that he apparently told JoePa and ALSO went to the police. From there, all we can do is speculate. But this is a message board so let's speculate away. My theory is that after the police were informed, a settlement was made. If that is the case, i'm sure a paper trail exists that some investigative reporter is following right now. If there is no paper trail, then either McQeary is lying or even the police department are in on it. Think about it, the child that was supposedly raped in the shower has never come forward. Why? It was already taken care of. And everyone knew about it. Perjury charges also require more than one contradictory witness to convict. Assuming the DA is actually going for a conviction, he needs more than McQeary. I honestly believe this was a massive cover up, and the athletic department needs to be purged.

 

[fishwater99]

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He is still Big *** *****....

He did not go
to the real Police. He went to the Campus Police. He
should have gone to the State Police,local sheriff's department, Attorney General, FBI, etc...
What did he expect the Campus Police to really do? They are in the pocket of Joe P.... I bet Joe and McQueary met with the VP of the Police or Joe set up the meeting, so that nothing would happen.

McQueary is just trying to save face, so he doesn't get his redhead *****-*** kicked or killed. %#$% him...
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[Hair of the Dawg]

I blame them for being so ignorant to blindly worship at the foot of a manwho clearly knew what happened. There is no way you will convience me that Joe P didn't know what took place. I blame them for the outrage of his firing, while it took national scrutiny for them to consider the victims. That is what I blame them for.

 

[dawgstudent]

he should have done more to stop the incident but reporting it to the police - you would think it would have been taken care of from that point on.

Now maybe he should have gone further once he realized nothing was being done locally.

 

[Hair of the Dawg]

Until then, he is a lying coward.

If he did stop it, what happend when Sandusky left? Did he seek medical attention for the child? I have no idea, but I'm assuming that when something like that happens, there some trauma to the body of a child. Did he take the kid home? If he did, what did he tell the parents? If he took the kid home, then didn't tell the parents what he saw...he is still a piece of ****. Or did he allow Sandusky to take the kid home? Now that he's stopped it, he goes home an tells dad. The only answer they come up with is to tell their cult leader Joe Pa.

McQueary told Paterno and they sat on this.

In no way do I believe he did anything to stop what was occurring on his word alone.</p>

 

[fishwater99]

He and Joe P were behind the whole coverup.