So basically, Nix wasn't offered the job....
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usually the domino effect is in the head jobs. This year it will be DCs.
Also, I found it very hard to believe that Nix "turned down" Fla.Their last two Cord.'s have gotten head jobs. No way you turn that opportunity down.
Also, I found it very hard to believe that Nix "turned down" Fla.Their last two Cord.'s have gotten head jobs. No way you turn that opportunity down.
Really?
Isn't the more likely scenario is that Meyer asked Nix if he was interested, and said if he was interested they will offer him the job, Nix for some reason said he wasn't interested, so Meyer never officially offered him the job.
Same thing happens when college teams approach other coaches, no one ever wants to be turned down.
If Meyer had said he never talked to Nix and had no interest in him, that is one thing, but to admit they talked, tells me all I need to know as far as whether he was "offered" the job.
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Isn't the more likely scenario is that Meyer asked Nix if he was interested, and said if he was interested they will offer him the job, Nix for some reason said he wasn't interested, so Meyer never officially offered him the job.
Same thing happens when college teams approach other coaches, no one ever wants to be turned down.
If Meyer had said he never talked to Nix and had no interest in him, that is one thing, but to admit they talked, tells me all I need to know as far as whether he was "offered" the job.
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...Nix turned down arguably the best DC job in the nation than that he wasn't really offered the job?
I think he has more job security at Ole Miss than Florida. If he cranked out a bad defense in one year, he is gone no questions asked. At Ole Miss he will have more leeway.
Can you explain why Meyer called Nix? Just saying hi? Asking about Christmas plans?
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Can you explain why Meyer called Nix? Just saying hi? Asking about Christmas plans?
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So that he could get a raise out of Mississippi.
You've never had coaches do that before, now have you?
You've never had coaches do that before, now have you?
I think it's pretty clear from the article that Meyer called Nix to discuss the opening and determined that Nix intended to run a substantially different scheme that what they have been running, which led to him not offering the job. There was probably serious interest from Meyer so, no, he didn't call just to "see how he was doing." Is that hard to understand?
....he's known Nix a long time. He is taking his time. He called him and they talked, didn't think it would be a good fit. Just the phone call got Nix a raise.
If your scenario is correct, then Nix has no ambition to be a head coach. You don't go from DC at Ole Miss to a major head coaching job. And that's the part that makes zero sense.
If your scenario is correct, then Nix has no ambition to be a head coach. You don't go from DC at Ole Miss to a major head coaching job. And that's the part that makes zero sense.
Normally how college coaches get hired whether coordinators or coaches, they are asked if they are interested and if they say they are, they get an offer so that the school saves face. It happens everywhere, it happened at MSU last year.
No one will ever know what happened. Nix told several people he was offered the job, maybe he is just lying to make himself seem important. All I know is that a denial from a school that a coach wasn't "offered" a job doesn't mean crap to me. Coaches aren't offered jobs until they have already said they will accept.
No one will ever know what happened. Nix told several people he was offered the job, maybe he is just lying to make himself seem important. All I know is that a denial from a school that a coach wasn't "offered" a job doesn't mean crap to me. Coaches aren't offered jobs until they have already said they will accept.
I'm just curious why this matters so much. Meyer obviously showed interest. Whether he offered the job or not, he showed interest. Does it really matter that much if Nix turned it down or if Meyer chose to go another direction? The end result is that Nix was thought highly enough to get consideration, and he's still at Ole Miss, whether it's by his choice or Meyer's.
I guess it sounds crazy for two people to talk, and one person say, "I was offered the job, and turned it down" and the other person to say "We talked, but it just wouldn't work out because of multiple reasons"
Both could be true. That is how hiring in college football is done. Im not sure why everyone thinks this is crazy.
Im not really sure why MSU fans really care much about it either. No rational OM fan thinks the OM defensive coordintor position is better than the UF's defensive coordinator position, but it is possible that Nix was happier at OM and didn't want to leave. Its also possible he wasn't offered the job, I just don't know why Nix would lie, he seems like a pretty straight shooter.
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Both could be true. That is how hiring in college football is done. Im not sure why everyone thinks this is crazy.
Im not really sure why MSU fans really care much about it either. No rational OM fan thinks the OM defensive coordintor position is better than the UF's defensive coordinator position, but it is possible that Nix was happier at OM and didn't want to leave. Its also possible he wasn't offered the job, I just don't know why Nix would lie, he seems like a pretty straight shooter.
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to believe, but the coaching fraternity is very small. They all know each other, and they stay on the phone together all the time. They do help each other out. Nix could have called Meyer. What does it matter?
Lets assume the Peterson rumors were true. MSU can say they never offered Peterson the job because they asked him if he was interested and if he was, the job was his. Is that an offer? Legally no. But that is how it is done.
So if Petereson says Im not interested because people are calling my secretary asking if Im a Scientologist, so Im staying my *** in Boise. MSU can say, we only offered the job to Mullen. Same thing could happen here, except I doubt Florida's rivals writer called Ole Miss' office and asked if Nix believed in reparations.
So if Petereson says Im not interested because people are calling my secretary asking if Im a Scientologist, so Im staying my *** in Boise. MSU can say, we only offered the job to Mullen. Same thing could happen here, except I doubt Florida's rivals writer called Ole Miss' office and asked if Nix believed in reparations.
And your money is on Nix. I think it is Meyer, though I think they both may be telling the truth in their own way.
Like I posted above, Nix could have been told the job is yours if you are interested, which is a round about job offer, and he declined, and Meyer could say we had an interest, but no job offer was extended which is true.
So either that very rational, reasonable explanation of what happened occurred, or Nix through back channels asked Meyer to float his name in the press about him replacing Strong, used this press to announce he was offered the FL job, leveraged OM to get a raise, and then declined the job offer, and several days later Meyer announces that Nix wasn't offered the job, though that story had been in the press for about a week.
Like I posted above, Nix could have been told the job is yours if you are interested, which is a round about job offer, and he declined, and Meyer could say we had an interest, but no job offer was extended which is true.
So either that very rational, reasonable explanation of what happened occurred, or Nix through back channels asked Meyer to float his name in the press about him replacing Strong, used this press to announce he was offered the FL job, leveraged OM to get a raise, and then declined the job offer, and several days later Meyer announces that Nix wasn't offered the job, though that story had been in the press for about a week.
there's no 17ing way Nix turned down a job with a $100K+ raise and a very good chance to move up to a BCS head coaching job (which there is no chance in hell he can move to from his current position). I know he's got a good job now, but a coach in his position just doesn't turn that kind of job down.
why does calling someone to talk to them about a job automatically mean a job offer was extended? that is what i don't get about your "very rational, reasonable explanation"
anyways, in the grand scheme of things this isn't important in the first place. i just find it funny that you believe that Nix was offered the job and he turned it down when there are so many other possibilities. it is very typical. edit: it is also typical that i am skeptical that he was offered the job.
<p align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">"We spoke to eight candidates and did a lot of research on many more. Coach Mullen was absolutely the first person we offered the job to."
Greg Byrne at the press conference announcing Mullen as the head coach of MSU.</font></p>
Greg Byrne at the press conference announcing Mullen as the head coach of MSU.</font></p>
For all we know Nix made the initial contact with Meyer. Meyer probably responded with why the hell would I want you? You just got *** raped by MSU.
Are we just guessing there was? From what I could find Strong was making 325K and Nix was making 350K. Since he wasn't offered the job, how in the world would you know that he was going to be making 450K which would be the highest any Coordinator in the SEC would be making.
I agree with you that the chance to move up to a head coaching job is a lot easier as the DC at Florida than the DC at Ole Miss.
Im watching assistant coaches leave better jobs for the same jobs all the time, sometimes lesser jobs.
Look, Im never going to convince you he was offered the job, that is fine. You think Nix is a liar and leveraged OM for a pay raise, and you think Meyer never offered the job to him.
I agree with you that the chance to move up to a head coaching job is a lot easier as the DC at Florida than the DC at Ole Miss.
Im watching assistant coaches leave better jobs for the same jobs all the time, sometimes lesser jobs.
Look, Im never going to convince you he was offered the job, that is fine. You think Nix is a liar and leveraged OM for a pay raise, and you think Meyer never offered the job to him.
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Yep, his defense stopped every offense in the SEC except the spread option and spread running attacks. I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that that type of offense exploited our personnel weakness (athletes in our back 7) more than others. The spread running attacks were the best way to neutralize our strength, the front 4.
I just don't see what Meyer gains by lying.
Nix on the other hand................
Plus Nix never said he turned it down. He just said he was staying in Oxford, and "Happy to be a Rebel"
Nix on the other hand................
Plus Nix never said he turned it down. He just said he was staying in Oxford, and "Happy to be a Rebel"
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