So Cohen is saying third party NIL deals count against the rev share amount......

[OG Goat Holder]

Casagrande: The great Auburn recruiting gamble. Will it pay off?

Auburn has the worst-rated recruiting class in the SEC and a strategy that appears to be different from everyone else.

www.al.com

Last couple paragraphs toward the end of the article. I have a couple of questions:

- He says 21.5M. I thought it was 20.5M max rev share?

- He seems confident that ALL NIL comes from that amount. That seems asinine. I am GUESSING he means any NIL raised through the athletic department, which in our case, would be the BI, State Excellence, or anything we directly control. He can't possibly be thinking that third party deals outside the AD are counting towards rev share, right?

What does he know? Or think he knows?

 

[Maroon13]

Hmmm. That is interesting. Because I was under the same impression as you.

He does say "....and we're going to give you, $400,000 through a third party." So I assume since 3rd party nil still has to go through the clearing house. The payments will go through the schools as well??? Who knows.

I do know. If that is true and the clearing house works as planned..... some players are going to take big pay cut this year.

 

[57stratdawg]

 

[John Deaux VII]

The cap is just an illusion. There is still plenty of money to funnel to recruits the old fashioned way - through the bagman. Now the NCAA is even more powerless to do anything about it and there is plenty of plausible deniability for 18 and 19 year olds wheeling up in a $100,000 automobile.

 

[The Peeper]

I wonder who explained it to him?

 

[Seinfeld]

Based on everything that’s been made public up to this point, he’s incorrect on both accounts.

2025 revenue sharing is estimated to be 20.5M

NIL does not count towards the revenue sharing cap

 

[8dog]

I think he is arguing that if the school promises a third party NIL deal then that has to count against the rev share bc the school is making the promise. I think he is alone in that thought. I think the 21.5 number was a typo from the author bc cohen is not quoted and in his official comments he says 20.5

 

[Anon1716396143]

The cap is just an illusion. There is still plenty of money to funnel to recruits the old fashioned way - through the bagman. Now the NCAA is even more powerless to do anything about it and there is plenty of plausible deniability for 18 and 19 year olds wheeling up in a $100,000 automobile.

Yeah I never understood the belief that the cap was constraining in any way. Schools will just go back to doing what they’ve always done and who’s gonna stop them?

 

[dawgstudent]

If you are the only one who comprehends it this way - you might not have strong comprehension.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Cohen not understanding NIL… who would ever think that*****

 

[dawgstudent]

Casagrande: The great Auburn recruiting gamble. Will it pay off?

Auburn has the worst-rated recruiting class in the SEC and a strategy that appears to be different from everyone else.

www.al.com

Last couple paragraphs toward the end of the article. I have a couple of questions:

- He says 21.5M. I thought it was 20.5M max rev share?

- He seems confident that ALL NIL comes from that amount. That seems asinine. I am GUESSING he means any NIL raised through the athletic department, which in our case, would be the BI, State Excellence, or anything we directly control. He can't possibly be thinking that third party deals outside the AD are counting towards rev share, right?

What does he know? Or think he knows?

The one line I would always hear about Cohen is that he thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

 

[Bulldawg77]

The one line I would always hear about Cohen is that he thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

Their is not doubt about that. I mean the signed baseballs were gonna revolutionize the NIL game for State***.
Anyone who thinks Cohen was a good AD I question their sanity and intelligence.
Doubt Cohen makes it past 26 as Auburn AD

 

[85Bears]

Where is that guy that used to claim revenue sharing would even the playing field ? bullchitbulldog or something ?

 

[dawgstudent]

Where is that guy that used to claim revenue sharing would even the playing field ? bullchitbulldog or something ?

It would even the playing field if it was run like a pro sports league. Salary caps and contracts. There are none of both in college football. And like I said in another thread - until we see some teeth with penalties - it's like it was before NIL. Money under the table will matter if the clearinghouse denies it.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

That's a very poorly written article, first, so I wouldn't take any quotes from it as solid.

Third party NIL definitely does not count against the revenue share cap, and there's no way Cohen thinks that. The $21.5 MM could either be a typo, ot else Cohen was talking about nmthe 2026 season.

Its still totally unclear to me what Cohen and Freeze think they are doing right and everyone else is doing wrong. Schools are allowed to facilitate third party deals, so they can make certain promises to players, and then scramble to come up with the financial package later.

Maybe that's their point? The players dont really have to do anything to receive revenue sharing payments, but the third party deals requir some type of promotional activity. So maybe they are saying schools should be clear that a certain part of the financial offer comes with additional obligations?

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Hmmm. That is interesting. Because I was under the same impression as you.

He does say "....and we're going to give you, $400,000 through a third party." So I assume since 3rd party nil still has to go through the clearing house. The payments will go through the schools as well??? Who knows.

I do know. If that is true and the clearing house works as planned..... some players are going to take big pay cut this year.

Most of the pay cuts come next year. Payments for this coming year have already been made. Agreements that were signed before June 6 and paid in full before July 1 did not have to comply with the new rules.

 

[Maroon13]

The .... "doing it the right way"... line is an appeasement to calm the masses because of their poor recruiting. They don't believe that line themselves.

 

[Bulldawg77]

It would even the playing field if it was run like a pro sports league. Salary caps and contracts. There are none of both in college football. And like I said in another thread - until we see some teeth with penalties - it's like it was before NIL. Money under the table will matter if the clearinghouse denies it.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I think he is arguing that if the school promises a third party NIL deal then that has to count against the rev share bc the school is making the promise. I think he is alone in that thought. I think the 21.5 number was a typo from the author bc cohen is not quoted and in his official comments he says 20.5

That's a very poorly written article, first, so I wouldn't take any quotes from it as solid.

Third party NIL definitely does not count against the revenue share cap, and there's no way Cohen thinks that. The $21.5 MM could either be a typo, ot else Cohen was talking about nmthe 2026 season.

Its still totally unclear to me what Cohen and Freeze think they are doing right and everyone else is doing wrong. Schools are allowed to facilitate third party deals, so they can make certain promises to players, and then scramble to come up with the financial package later.

Maybe that's their point? The players dont really have to do anything to receive revenue sharing payments, but the third party deals requir some type of promotional activity. So maybe they are saying schools should be clear that a certain part of the financial offer comes with additional obligations?

Yep I think this is probably it, or something along these lines.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Hilarious. Literally an 80% approval rate - on the first try - for all these deals that have already been submitted. This is after they were grandstanding and saying “90% of the previous NIL deals would be rejected by clearinghouse”. This thing is a complete farce.

I’m guessing the 20% rejections were exactly what you’d expect….probably a bunch of players at have-not schools and/or non-revenue sports that the clearinghouse is using as pawns to establish some form of objectivity. Perhaps a small number of high profile players / schools deals that were intentionally extravagant to try and draw out a chance to file a lawsuit.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Hilarious. Literally an 80% approval rate - on the first try - for all these deals that have already been submitted. This is after they were grandstanding and saying “90% of the previous NIL deals would be rejected by clearinghouse”. This thing is a complete farce.

I’m guessing the 20% rejections were exactly what you’d expect….probably a bunch of players at have-not schools and/or non-revenue sports that the clearinghouse is using as pawns to establish some form of objectivity. Perhaps a small number of high profile players / schools deals that were intentionally extravagant to try and draw out a chance to file a lawsuit.

You're so anxious to throw stones at this. It hasn't even been a month yet, and the post says one third have been approved with others still under review.

I would have expected a high initial approval rate because 1) the fake deals have already been signed and paid for and don't have to be submitted, and 2) people are aware of the rules in place.

The real test of the system will come when recruits and players in the portal start submitting offers.

Even then, as long as players are submitting all of their offers I think the majority will get through. Particularly the ones that dont involve associated entities.

 

[Chesusdog]

It would even the playing field if it was run like a pro sports league. Salary caps and contracts. There are none of both in college football. And like I said in another thread - until we see some teeth with penalties - it's like it was before NIL. Money under the table will matter if the clearinghouse denies it.

Unless they rollback instant eligibility, contracts and a salary cap are the only things that are gonna save college football.

 

[GloryDawg]

Schools are going to break rules no matter what the rules are. they are going to do all they can to get an edge. They could put a 100 million dollar cap and some school is going to max that out and pay another 10 million under the table.

 

[85Bears]

Schools are going to break rules no matter what the rules are. they are going to do all they can to get an edge. They could put a 100 million dollar cap and some school is going to max that out and pay another 10 million under the table.

Yep. The toothpaste is out of the tube. Nothing will change

 

[Perd Hapley]

You're so anxious to throw stones at this. It hasn't even been a month yet, and the post says one third have been approved with others still under review.

I’m no more anxious to throw stones at it than you are to prop it up as some kind of saving grace for college football without any tenuous legal foundation.

I would have expected a high initial approval rate because 1) the fake deals have already been signed and paid for and don't have to be submitted, and 2) people are aware of the rules in place.

I think it’s incredible that there are already 1,200 deals on the table this soon after they were already rushing through the 11th hour front loaded deals to be grandfathered in under the old rules. This should be the lowest number of deals that they ever have to process.

For reference, there are only around 7,500 or so P4 conference athletes on scholarship - combined - in football, men’s basketball, and baseball. I realize that not only P4 athletes or players in these sports get offers, but that’s going to be where the overwhelming majority of the money is going to be spent. This is essentially like 15-20% of athletes putting in new deal requests very soon after the old deadline. There is so much dumb money flying around right now that its insane.

The real test of the system will come when recruits and players in the portal start submitting offers.

Even then, as long as players are submitting all of their offers I think the majority will get through. Particularly the ones that dont involve associated entities.

Well then, that’s not going to do much to bring common sense back into the equation. Very few of these kids’ NIL is worth what they are getting for it without the jersey that they wear.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Cohen doesn't know a camel toe from a backhoe

 

[anon1758050382]

I think they are preparing for a bad football season:

“The reason we are losing is we are the only SEC school doing things aboveboard.”

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Hugh is stealing from Cohen who is stealing from AU

 

[El Perro Grande]

Freeze and Cohen deserve each other.