So DirecTV is trying to pimp Full Court, but...

boomboommsu

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...shows our game in non-HD? And they expect me to be impressed and pay for this?

Fail.

But I do appreciate seeing the game for free tonight.
 

jakldawg

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Looks absolutely horrible. Watched a bit of another game today, and the wife asked what was wrong with the TV.
 
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i switched from Comcast to DirecTV whenthe MSU-Memphis game was blacked out on Comcast this year. so far, i dont have many complaints. im just glad i got the game, even if it made me reminisce about the old Jefferson Pilot broadcasts. im not sure i wanna see Renardo in 1080p anyway.

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FlabLoser

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The US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is more progressive in this area than private industry. The FCC removed all terrestrial SD broadcast airwaves. They even provided, at taxpayer expense, devices for the SDTV-owning public to convert HDTV signals into SDTV signals for display on their antiquated TV sets.

The point is that any SDTV-owning American public is well-equipped to handle HDTV broadcasts on SDTV hardware.

Regardless, I dare say there are more HDTVs than SDTVs in America. Its been almost 10 years since the feds BANNED the sale of SDTVs. And rest assured even the poor in America make it their priority to own a good TV, a HDTV in these modern times.

But the likes of Comcast has gone to great lengths to modify their HDTV system to transmit SDTV broadcasts. DirecTV lags behind spending huge bandwidth transmitting SD channels that are duplicates to HD channels. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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This year however, after 4 years of watching that SD crap on Game Plan I had enough and stopped. The part that is the most maddening is that you can tell that the original broadcast was made in HD on most of these telecast, but they are pimping it out in SD to paid subscribers.

I am working on putting together a solution for watching games on ESPN3 through the TV.

Missed last night's game thankfully just having fun with friends. I am sure I would have had much more to drink if I had watched that one in any definition.
 

patdog

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was to clear the spectrum for use by smart phones which the Feds auctioned off for about $17 billion. In fact, they went ahead and auctioned off the spectrum and collected the moneyseveral years before the spectrum had to be cleared.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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but it's like they have to send low resolution video over the lines. It's worse than SD.

And for your ESPN3, I have both a HDMI out and component cable out connectors to my iPad, so I can launch the watch ESPN app through my TV. Just plug it in. (one of my TVs is so old it didn't have HDMI, thus the component cables).
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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Optimus Prime 4 said:
but it's like they have to send low resolution video over the lines. It's worse than SD.

And for your ESPN3, I have both a HDMI out and component cable out connectors to my iPad, so I can launch the watch ESPN app through my TV. Just plug it in. (one of my TVs is so old it didn't have HDMI, thus the component cables).

I am looking at investing in a Mac Mini with the same set up. That way I can purchase movies from iTunes, stream netflix, hulu, ESPN3 or whoever without having to take up my portable device.
 

davatron

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and it would not have been needed to go from SDTV to HDTV. Patdog's post clarifies everything for you.
 

JulesWinfield

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They were only giving you what was provided. The game was on CSS in SD. We have a CSSHD channel here in Comcast land and the game was not on it. Since the Georgia State-George Mason game ran long, I even attempted to watch on ESPN3 and it was the same production. It's hard to broadcast a game in HD when the production crew doesn't send an HD camera.
 

RocketDawg

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Standard Definition (SD) with analog. The government didn't "ban" SD ... it just did away with analog television. Analog was something under 300 lines of resolution if I recall correctly, so low resolution SD programming is still better than analog was.<div>
</div><div>Digital comes in different resolutions, with SD being the lowest, or worst. It's 480i or 480p. HD, or high definition, is 720p (used by ESPN and ABC) and 1080i (used by CBS, NBC, and lots of satellite and cable-only channels, such as CNN). 1080p is not currently broadcast to my knowledge, but is available on Blue Ray discs. The p indicates progressive scan and is better for fast motion, such as sports programming, so that's why ESPN chose 720p. The i indicates interlaced scanning, which picks up every other line, then goes back and gets the alternate ones in a scan. p is better than i, in general.<div>
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JulesWinfield said:
They were only giving you what was provided. The game was on CSS in SD. We have a CSSHD channel here in Comcast land and the game was not on it. Since the Georgia State-George Mason game ran long, I even attempted to watch on ESPN3 and it was the same production. It's hard to broadcast a game in HD when the production crew doesn't send an HD camera.
So your saying of the 20+ games on ESPN Game Plan yesterday not a single game was produced in HD or had an HD camera. I call BS. Here is a list of yesterdays games. I didn't watch any game but the MSU game. Did anybody watch Ole Miss or Kentucky on a broadcast network/not game plan and was it in HD?

<h3 class="tableTitle" id="day7">Saturday, January 7, 2012</h3><table class="resultTable sportsHighlights"><thead><tr class="headings"><th class="game">Visiting Team vs. Home Team</th><th class="time">Time (ET)</th><th class="threeDigNum">SD Channel</th><th class="hdNum">HD Channel</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td>Virginia Tech at Wake Forest</td><td>12:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">720</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Georgetown at West Virginia</td><td>12:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">721</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Missouri at Kansas State</td><td>1:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">722</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Baylor at Texas Tech</td><td>1:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">723</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Auburn at Vanderbilt</td><td>1:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">724</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Mississippi at LSU</td><td>1:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">725</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>St. John's at Cincinnati</td><td>2:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">720</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Boston College at North Carolina</td><td>2:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">721</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Wagner at Monmouth NJ (W)</td><td>3:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">722</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Marquette at Syracuse</td><td>4:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">723</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Iowa State at Texas A&M</td><td>4:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">724</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>South Carolina at Kentucky</td><td>4:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">725</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Denver at South Alabama</td><td>4:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">720</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Ohio at Bowling Green</td><td>6:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">721</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Seton Hall at Providence</td><td>6:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">722</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Fresno State at Idaho</td><td>6:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">723</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Alabama at Georgia</td><td>7:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">724</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Connecticut at Rutgers</td><td>8:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">720</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Creighton at Bradley</td><td>8:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">725</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Boise State at New Mexico State (W)</td><td>8:30 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">721</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Nevada at Utah State</td><td>9:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">722</span></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Mississippi State at Arkansas</td><td>9:00 pm</td><td><span class="channelNumBlack">723</span></td><td></td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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FlabLoser said:
The US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is more progressive in this area than private industry. The FCC removed all terrestrial SD broadcast airwaves. They even provided, at taxpayer expense, devices for the SDTV-owning public to convert HDTV signals into SDTV signals for display on their antiquated TV sets.
The Federal Government got rid of analog broadcasts and switched to digital providing a tuner for older TVs to get digital signals. This has absolutely nothing to do with resolution. You can broadcast HD over Analog signals (and a lot of people did over the UHF band) and you can broadcast SD over digital signals and a lot of people do. The government did not force any sort of switch to HD or provide money for anyone to change to HD.

BTW, the only reason they forced the Analog to Digital switch to to get the analog spectrum back from the television companies so they could auction it off to make money. That spectrum will be used for cellphones, or WiFi, or thousands of other uses instead of carrying a single TV station. The government didn't give a rats *** about being progressive. They just wanted the money.
 

FlabLoser

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Or perhaps you enjoyed blurryvison of our game sat night.

Regardless, 4:3 aspect ratios at low res need to go. Whether that is 480 i or p. Or whether it is even lower than that is beside the point.

And don't get me started on HD channels who broadcast low res 4:3 content stretched to widescreen ratios (making everything fat and distorted) - even while legit high def versions of the said content already exist.