So how badly does Bama have to beat OM

Bulldogg31

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to be so demoralizing that we don't have to see or hear from them again this year? I'm thinking if Bama hangs 50 on them that might do it for a while.

In a related point, which recruit is scheduled to commit on Monday to try and pull the Black Bears out from the out of despair?
 

Bulldogg31

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Considering they've scored 4 total TD's on Bama since Bush was in office I'm going to have to hold off on taking that advice.
 

Shamoan

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exactly. their lack of a run game and complete offensive line will be their demise. bama will make them one dimensional and sit back and wait for bro to do what he does.
 

Shmuley

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Combine Mississippi's OL with Bro Ballace's tendencies = not booking.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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If OM wins, it will be 3-2

Considering that it took them till the 4th to really separate from Boise, and Memphis.

I think they are going to have a hard time consistently moving the ball.

And as noted, their ground game is very suspect.

It will be a hard fought game.
 

jb1020

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no run game is gonna kill bo

what do you set the O/U for Bo's sacked + int + fumble total...is that like at 11.5?

If OM becomes one dimensional, which seems likely, Bama will feast.
 

muddawgs

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to be so demoralizing that we don't have to see or hear from them again this year? I'm thinking if Bama hangs 50 on them that might do it for a while.

In a related point, which recruit is scheduled to commit on Monday to try and pull the Black Bears out from the out of despair?

I doubt Bama scores 30 points much less 50. Ole Miss's defense will keep the game close. I see a game much like the Memphis game except Bama coming out on top.
 

bulldognation

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Here's what I think happens:

OM has the marquee matchup in the nation. Gameday in the Grove. Unbeatens on the field. They will be amped up big time.
They will come out with speed and probably go up early. Crowd will go nuts.

then... Bama will do what they do. They won't panic. They'll stage a gradual momentum shifting comeback. They've been in far bigger stages than this with far more hostile crowds lined up against them. Once that emotion wears off and it's player vs player it will be over. OM is just not built to manage the pressure they'll be up against along with sustaining the energy. Bo will try to force things late in the game and it will get ugly.
 

AHSDawg

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Did y'all know it has been 4,000+ days since TSUN beat Bama? No way in hell they beat them Saturday. Hell, they couldn't SCORE on them last year. TSUN runs the same offense with the same players. If you want to beat them, you just need to have fast corners that can come up and tackle the quick screens. No running game will be their downfall. You cannot have RBs that can not run between the tackles and then on short yardage bring in someone else that can only do one thing.
 

patdog

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Don't underestimate Lane Kiffen. He's a douchebag and a terrible head coach. But he's a hell of an offensive coordinator. They won't score 50, but I could see them scoring 30.
 

WrapItDog

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After the loss the OM fans will blame it on the Kiffen Conspiracy. No way AL could score that many points on the best defense to ever take the field in NCAA history. Lane knew all the defensive schemes from his brother. Who was promised a job on Saben's staff at the end of the season.
 

GloryDawg

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Don't forget about the party in the Grove. Many will be back there after half time.
 

os62

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Did y'all know it has been 4,000+ days since TSUN beat Bama? No way in hell they beat them Saturday. Hell, they couldn't SCORE on them last year. TSUN runs the same offense with the same players. If you want to beat them, you just need to have fast corners that can come up and tackle the quick screens. No running game will be their downfall. You cannot have RBs that can not run between the tackles and then on short yardage bring in someone else that can only do one thing.

Well, it had been 5,446 days since yall had last beaten LSU but yall beat them. I don't think Ole Miss beats Bama, but just spitting out the amount of days in between victories doesn't constitute a Bama win...
 

msstate7

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Bama 30-7. I think the most demoralizing thing in this game is om not being able to move the ball while bama punishes them physically. I think it will be close till the 4th, but bama's commitment to the run will break om down
 

drt7891

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Unless OM can go up 3-4 scores in the first few drives while they undoubtedly will have the hype edge, this is exactly how I see it playing out. Hugh Freeze is the king of hype, but his teams have yet to be able to sustain it for more than a quarter. They will lose the edge on speed and will wear down as the game goes on. By the middle of the third quarter, Bama will be finding their stride. If OM isn't up at least 2-3 possessions by this point, Bama wins this game easily.

I'll also say OM will need at least 150 yards on the ground to have a chance. They are not going to out-finesse bama, no matter how good their passing game is.
 

natchezdawg

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I got news for some of you knuckleheads...

Alabama is not going to woodshed Ole Miss. Ole Miss is going to give them a good game.
 

drt7891

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Color me skeptical on their defense. I'm still not sold... Their DBs do a tremendous amount of work and are solid, but I'm far from sold on their front 6-7.
 

121Josey

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Well, it had been 5,446 days since yall had last beaten LSU but yall beat them. I don't think Ole Miss beats Bama, but just spitting out the amount of days in between victories doesn't constitute a Bama win...

Since you're checking stats, just tell me the last time TSUN was within one score in the 4th qtr against Bama.
 

patdog

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I'll be surprised if Mississippi keeps it within 2 TDs. I expect something like a 31-17 Bama win.
 

Philly Dawg

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Agreed. The only way this gets out of hand is if Ole Miss has a couple of turnovers. That's possible, but its also possible that Bama could have a couple of turnovers.
 

drt7891

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No one is saying OM won't play a good game... What people are saying is that OM doesn't have what it takes to stand toe to toe with bama.

1. Bama is far more balanced
2. Bama is far more physical, especially on offense
3. Unless OM can scratch together a run game and make Bama respect it, a high flying "basketball" offense will do exactly what it did last year... Which is not much.

As I've already said, OM needs to go up 17-21 points by the middle of the 2nd, because I don't see them scoring much after that point. This isn't a marquee matchup for bama, but you can bet your sweet *** after listening to this hype, they are gonna be ready to play.
 
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Bama will not score 50pts on UM's defense. I guarantee that, and like other posters have said UM could win this game.

They have a solid D (not sure if its a full 2deep just yet, but they have legit talent on the first scring) as well as a stable of receivers, led by Treadwell who is much larger than I realized.

The key will be Blake Sims.
Was last week a fluke? Personally, I think it was and one would think to shut down Cooper would be to shut down the offense (passing attack anyway). But then there is the return of the power run game that Bama has been known for. Gotta stop Cooper though.

UM has had quite a lot of troubling trying to run the ball, so if they do get a lead I'm curious to see what their game plan is. Jet sweeps?


As to your second inquiry, I would say Patterson. That is a huge get for their O-line.
 

coach66

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Bama 28 Bears 17, Ole Miss has a good defense but they have not been tested.

We will find out Saturday. If Bama turns it over it could get interesting.
 

DancingRabbit

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You're the most reasonable OM poster here, but this seems "to the rescue"

He did put a period at the end of that statement, and went on to list his reasoning for why he thinks Bama wins.

Y'all have a very good defense but depth could become an issue.

Your running game looks very suspect, which can really hurt in the red zone. On 4th down in the red zone, better take the FG.
 

MaronMatters

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exactly. their lack of a run game and complete offensive line will be their demise. bama will make them one dimensional and sit back and wait for bro to do what he does.

BUT..BUT..What if Freeze is playing possum kind of like what Mullen did? Eh? Freeze might open the playbook this weekend and unleash some huge wildman he has been hiding at RB. What are the odds of that?
 

tb2

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Are you kidding me?

Did you see those Bro Ballace passes? That is indefensible. The weak side defender will never see it coming.
 

BiscuitEater

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One glaring OM Stat ...

They have a solid D (not sure if its a full 2deep just yet, but they have legit talent on the first scring) as well as a stable of receivers, led by Treadwell who is much larger than I realized.

Players with the most tackles ... 4 of 6 are DBs. And, going down lower, 5 of top 8 are DBS. There is a problem when most of your tackles are getting made by DBs. This problem may not show up when OM is playing Vandy, U LA LA, or Memphis BUT it will show up big-time in the second half of the Bama game.

Bama is averaging 285 ypg rushing. Bama has a 5 deep TB rotation that keeps fresh legs on the field. RB is the ONLY position that Bama has 5 players listed on their depth chart. None of these RBs is averaging < 5 yards per carry and Blake Sims is averaging over 6.4. They are big, fast and will completely wear down the OM DBs.

OM has to either score really, really fast or keep their offense out on the field for extended drives. Which means, they will need to be able to run the ball. Bama is only giving up 62 yards per game on the ground. Bama may get behind in the first half; in the end, they will pound OM with their rushing attack coupled with enough passing plays to keep OM from putting 8 in the box.

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drt7891

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On the flip side (OM Rushing yards):
Walton - 199
Mathers - 151
No one else is close....

To top it off:
Bo Wallace - 7.... That's it... All year. They've completely gotten away from the fast tempo read option that made their offense much more dangerous and now are stricktly a finesse passing team. The fact OM has 450 yards on the ground through 4 cupcake games would be very troubling to me if I were a rebel fan.

Also, you hit the damn nail on the head with the DBs, too... That's why I'm not sold on their D. Their front 6-7 has not impressed me at all. Their DBs are good and credit their scheme to this point, because it's put them in a position to have a tremendous impact. HOWEVER, Memphis and Boise can't exploit that imbalance... Bama can (and will).
 

os62

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He did put a period at the end of that statement, and went on to list his reasoning for why he thinks Bama wins.

Y'all have a very good defense but depth could become an issue.

Your running game looks very suspect, which can really hurt in the red zone. On 4th down in the red zone, better take the FG.

Sorry if it was a "to the rescue" type post. Wasn't my intention. I just found it ridiculous that someone would suggest that because we haven't beaten them in 4000+ days would be a solid reason why Ole Miss won't win. I know he listed additional reasons why we wouldn't win afterwards. I too even confessed that I don't think Ole Miss wins. Hell, I agree with your 2 assessments 100%.

In fact, I wish we could just take the 3 points if we were in the red zone, but our kicking game is not good (just like last year). So, the 3 points are definitely not automatic. I already predicted I think that Ole Miss loses 24-7 to some of my friends, because I think our offense will be stagnant except for a few big plays.
 

DancingRabbit

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Yeah, I get it. Thankfully we finally got the LSU monkey off our back.

It's a huge day in Mississippi sports tomorrow. Here's to great games and no serious injuries.
 

os62

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It's a huge day in Mississippi sports tomorrow. Here's to great games and no serious injuries.

Absolutely. And, that was an amazing win for yall. That confidence that your team received after that game may pay dividends that can't be measured.
 

Dawgg

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I'm sorry.

What the hell are you doing here?

Big week for you guys. I'm surprised you're spending so much time here.