So how does the AD search and hiring search play out???

[SoFL Husker]

I mean, if I am the "Powers that Be," I am reaching out to Scott's agent today, getting a framework for a deal, and if he is on board, the AD would be a reflection of that hire, nothing else.

IF Scott is on the fence or doesn't want the job (which is something to consider, since he is likely becoming one of the hottest coaching prospects in CFB), then the AD search becomes more critical.

So it is somewhat chicken before the egg here with regards to Frost.

If it's a new AD make it a fresh, young hire, get a fresh young coach with his hair on fire, and move forward with what we have in the stable. GBR

 

[genetics56]

AD job they are doing interviews.

If the leadership's wants to can Riley then they will do it regardless of not having an AD.

Louisville's interim preisident fired the AD and basketball coach the same morning.

 

[jrhuskerdad_rivals491985]

I may be naive and in the minority, but why not let the Dave fire him to get the process started? Does it really protect the team and coaches having them do their jobs under a cloud of uncertainty? Plus, the new AD can make a fresh hire without having started his tenure with first firing someone.

 

[huskerfan1414]

I dont think Dave wants to fire him, could be wrong now but I don't think so.
Frost should absolutely be a candidate, but not the only one

 

[SoFL Husker]

I may be naive and in the minority, but why not let the Dave fire him to get the process started? Does it really protect the team and coaches having them do their jobs under a cloud of uncertainty? Plus, the new AD can make a fresh hire without having started his tenure with first firing someone.

That might make sense if Frost wants to start recruiting right away, for his new job, in the sense he can fill out a class with his guys or salvage the ones committed already. That is why I am reaching out to Frost before hiring a AD-if he wants the job, it's his. And I am talking a 5 year deal at $4mm per. Minimum.

 

[huskerfan1414]

That might make sense if Frost wants to start recruiting right away, for his new job, in the sense he can fill out a class with his guys or salvage the ones committed already. That is why I am reaching out to Frost before hiring a AD-if he wants the job, it's his. And I am talking a 5 year deal at $4mm per. Minimum.

There should be no other candidates?

 

[Huskerfan2112]

I mean, if I am the "Powers that Be," I am reaching out to Scott's agent today, getting a framework for a deal, and if he is on board, the AD would be a reflection of that hire, nothing else.

IF Scott is on the fence or doesn't want the job (which is something to consider, since he is likely becoming one of the hottest coaching prospects in CFB), then the AD search becomes more critical.

So it is somewhat chicken before the egg here with regards to Frost.

If it's a new AD make it a fresh, young hire, get a fresh young coach with his hair on fire, and move forward with what we have in the stable. GBR

With all due respect, havent you been telling us Frost wouldnt come here? Apologies if mistaken but I thought you made several posts to that effect.

 

[BHeinDaHuskers]

screw it if I am Bounds or Green I go ahead and fire Riley now so the next AD is set up for success. Do whatever now so the next AD can say, I didnt fire Riley. it gives him some cover. FIRE RILEY NOW. Take the black eye and start the healing process because it will take time to heal. This crap has got to get better!

 

[SoFL Husker]

With all due respect, havent you been telling us Frost wouldnt come here? Apologies if mistaken but I thought you made several posts to that effect.

I don't think it's a given and if I were Scott? I don't know. He's smart enough to say no, if that is what is in his own best interest. That's for damn sure.

 

[mwulf]

Other board has a rumor that Chris Del Conte is our main target

 

[captn caveman1]

Barry Alvarez for AD!

 

[Scrunge68]

Other board has a rumor that Chris Del Conte is our main target

Believe he is definitely the main target..Now whether they get him or not would be a whole other matter. Certainly have the funding to do it. As Eichorst was already one of the top paid AD's in the country. Question is if he feels the situation and environment is the best move.

 

[newAD]

I have a bad feeling that when the hire is announced there will be a bunch of people who will say, "If that's who we were going to hire we should have hired Alberts!"

 

[otismotis08]

I mean, if I am the "Powers that Be," I am reaching out to Scott's agent today, getting a framework for a deal, and if he is on board, the AD would be a reflection of that hire, nothing else.

IF Scott is on the fence or doesn't want the job (which is something to consider, since he is likely becoming one of the hottest coaching prospects in CFB), then the AD search becomes more critical.

So it is somewhat chicken before the egg here with regards to Frost.

If it's a new AD make it a fresh, young hire, get a fresh young coach with his hair on fire, and move forward with what we have in the stable. GBR

Silly poster. This can't happen.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Silly poster. This can't happen.

It can happen. It just won’t without an AD. Not many ADs will take a job if the head football coach is already hired

 

[Buicklife]

I have a bad feeling that when the hire is announced there will be a bunch of people who will say, "If that's who we were going to hire we should have hired Alberts!"

I am starting to feel this way more and more..... We'll end up with another also ran.

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

There should be no other candidates?

Apparently Scott Frost is already here. He is at UNL right now and is coaching the team as we speak. There are no other candidates only the one, who has left UCF and is now the HC though we haven't fired Riley yet. Frost is here. We did it. Glad that's over with now let's see what he can do against Ohio St.

Smh

 

[genetics56]

I have a bad feeling that when the hire is announced there will be a bunch of people who will say, "If that's who we were going to hire we should have hired Alberts!"

Well, he was asked to interview and he turned it down.

 

[1NebrFan]

I am starting to feel this way more and more..... We'll end up with another also ran.

I don't understand this mentality. We have great fan support...great facilities....the program makes money in spite of some lackluster results ( with the exception of volleyball ) the next AD is most likely going to get paid significantly more than he is currently making and he is going to have plenty of resources available to give coaches every opportunity to succeed. The new AD has an opportunity to awake a sleeping giant and with potentially one good hire he will be revered as the one that got us back on track. I still think it is a fantastic opportunity that many AD's would take in a heart beat.....IMHO.

 

[newAD]

Well, he was asked to interview and he turned it down.

Oh but some here seem to feel he was told he would not get the job, and he was given a chance to "pull his name out" and save face.

 

[newAD]

I don't understand this mentality. We have great fan support...great facilities....the program makes money in spite of some lackluster results ( with the exception of volleyball ) the next AD is most likely going to get paid significantly more than he is currently making and he is going to have plenty of resources available to give coaches every opportunity to succeed. The new AD has an opportunity to awake a sleeping giant and with potentially one good hire he will be revered as the one that got us back on track. I still think it is a fantastic opportunity that many AD's would take in a heart beat.....IMHO.

What I fear is if the potential the Athletic Director is being told, "You are coming in and you are going to fire Riley, and then we want you to hire Scott Frost." Their reply might be, what do you need me for?

 

[newAD]

Believe he is definitely the main target..Now whether they get him or not would be a whole other matter. Certainly have the funding to do it. As Eichorst was already one of the top paid AD's in the country. Question is if he feels the situation and environment is the best move.

I would have liked our chances a couple of years ago when the media was speculating openly about the potential future of the Big 12. Now??? He's got a pretty good gig, and just hired a new basketball coach. Baseball has become a regular at the CWS, football is solid. Or he could come to a $#!% storm in waiting.

 

[otismotis08]

It can happen. It just won’t without an AD. Not many ADs will take a job if the head football coach is already hired

Maybe I'm wrong, but earlier I think you said that this could not happen...agents, etc.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Maybe I'm wrong, but earlier I think you said that this could not happen...agents, etc.

Intermediaries will reach out and gauge interest. What I said was there will be no formal offer and agreement in place When there is no job available. My response was to a person who said why don’t we just get an agreement with frost lined up prior to him leaving Central Florida and Riley being fired that won’t happen

 

[1NebrFan]

What I fear is if the potential the Athletic Director is being told, "You are coming in and you are going to fire Riley, and then we want you to hire Scott Frost." Their reply might be, what do you need me for?

Have we become so cynical as a fan base that we believe that worst will happen all of the time? : ) Our President/Chancellor made the right decision when they fired Eichorst and I really believe they will make a great decision with the new AD....I would think they realize their reputations/jobs will be on the line with the hire and will want to do what ever it takes to get the best possible AD.

 

[Headcard]

Believe he is definitely the main target..Now whether they get him or not would be a whole other matter. Certainly have the funding to do it. As Eichorst was already one of the top paid AD's in the country. Question is if he feels the situation and environment is the best move.

Didn't he already say he has no interest? Not that it has stopped people from doing a 180 and leaving for another job in the past.

 

[SPbObRT]

TCU AD turned down a offer to come here. he is staying put. I don't get why Riley needs to be fired, it's year 3 and he is playing a bunch of younger kids, maybe CAV AND LANGDICK but keep the hc.

 

[newAD]

Have we become so cynical as a fan base that we believe that worst will happen all of the time? : ) Our President/Chancellor made the right decision when they fired Eichorst and I really believe they will make a great decision with the new AD....I would think they realize their reputations/jobs will be on the line with the hire and will want to do what ever it takes to get the best possible AD.

My point is, if potential candidates are being told what hiring/firing decisions are to be made before they even get the job, that could turn off potentially great candidates who are supposed to be paid to make their own decisions.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

My point is, if potential candidates are being told what hiring/firing decisions are to be made before they even get the job, that could turn off potentially great candidates who are supposed to be paid to make their own decisions.

But it’s a no brained. Right? What AD wouldn’t hire Frost?

 

[saluno22]

I don't understand this mentality. We have great fan support...great facilities....the program makes money in spite of some lackluster results ( with the exception of volleyball ) the next AD is most likely going to get paid significantly more than he is currently making and he is going to have plenty of resources available to give coaches every opportunity to succeed. The new AD has an opportunity to awake a sleeping giant and with potentially one good hire he will be revered as the one that got us back on track. I still think it is a fantastic opportunity that many AD's would take in a heart beat.....IMHO.

Most programs Nebraska football would like to consider its peers have most of what Nebraska has (and usually more/better): Big budgets, top tier facilities, strength and conditioning and nutrition programs, and student support (or "support", depending on the institution and/or what the kid is looking for), television exposure. However, programs Nebraska football would like to consider its peers have other things, too: larger and/or wealthier donor pools, proximity to recruiting hotbeds. Nebraska is in a no-man's land as it comes to college football, and is not a "destination" job as some like to say. Most of what used to set Nebraska apart (budget, fan support, exposure) are now commonplace, and the style of play changes from option and power football no longer make Nebraska unique, we're just trying to be like everyone else. And when you concede stylistic advantages in favor a systems others run, you're success is then based on the ability to recruit, develop, and coach better than those you want to consider your peers. The only institutional advantage I can think of that we have now is the athletic performance lab we have, but I'm unaware of any gains we're achieved as a result (not saying we haven't, just unaware).

Additionally, if the goal is to make money in spite of results, obviously mission accomplished for us and many professional franchises.

Mike Leach was innovative. Mark Helfrich and RIch Rodriguez were innovative. We have not been.

It's going to take someone special to turn the Nebraska football program into the winner we want it to be. And for a coach to accept that challenge, it's going to cost a pretty penny.

 

[little a]

TCU AD turned down a offer to come here. he is staying put. I don't get why Riley needs to be fired, it's year 3 and he is playing a bunch of younger kids, maybe CAV AND LANGDICK but keep the hc.

If he does like you asked in a span of 2 years he will have fired his OC, DC, DLine, Special teams and OL coach.... at some point you HAVE to point the thumb!!

 

[cecilB]

I mean, if I am the "Powers that Be," I am reaching out to Scott's agent today, getting a framework for a deal, and if he is on board, the AD would be a reflection of that hire, nothing else.

IF Scott is on the fence or doesn't want the job (which is something to consider, since he is likely becoming one of the hottest coaching prospects in CFB), then the AD search becomes more critical.

So it is somewhat chicken before the egg here with regards to Frost.

If it's a new AD make it a fresh, young hire, get a fresh young coach with his hair on fire, and move forward with what we have in the stable. GBR

typically a new coach wants to know who his/her boss will be. the new boss typically wants to hire their coach.

A new AD might not want Frost. Thus, if 'powers' that be would position for this, getting an AD might be tough.

 

[otismotis08]

Intermediaries will reach out and gauge interest. What I said was there will be no formal offer and agreement in place When there is no job available. My response was to a person who said why don’t we just get an agreement with frost lined up prior to him leaving Central Florida and Riley being fired that won’t happen

That's what I was saying weeks ago about "going shopping" and working towards an "agreement in principle".

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

That's what I was saying weeks ago about "going shopping" and working towards an "agreement in principle".

That is where you lose me. The university rep may reach out and ask the coach’s agent if there would be interest when/ if there is an opening. Agent asks coach, agent replies back to university rep with coach’s response. Coach may say “if money is right” or whatever. At that point the university knows if there is interest. There are not negotiations on agreement in principal. There may be a ball park figure discussed but coach’s don’t eff each other and negotiate for a job that isn’t open. It’s bad optics. That’s why you don’t see Frost openly campaigning for jobs. Would you be interested if this job comes open is as far as it gets. Salary and years aren’t discussed because there is no set salary in place. $4 mil may get you Frost but won’t get you Mullen. So it’s pointless. The people in these conversations already understand that if you are asking, you have a good idea at what it will cost.

 

[Row80]

I think it's funny how people like to spend other people's money.

 

[otismotis08]

That is where you lose me. The university rep may reach out and ask the coach’s agent if there would be interest when/ if there is an opening. Agent asks coach, agent replies back to university rep with coach’s response. Coach may say “if money is right” or whatever. At that point the university knows if there is interest. There are not negotiations on agreement in principal. There may be a ball park figure discussed but coach’s don’t eff each other and negotiate for a job that isn’t open. It’s bad optics. That’s why you don’t see Frost openly campaigning for jobs. Would you be interested if this job comes open is as far as it gets. Salary and years aren’t discussed because there is no set salary in place. $4 mil may get you Frost but won’t get you Mullen. So it’s pointless. The people in these conversations already understand that if you are asking, you have a good idea at what it will cost.

You work it behind-the-scenes as far as you can. You work towards an agreement. I realize the details don't get ironed-out until later. The whole point is...get the dialogue going as soon as possible and advance the discussions along the way.

 

[Harry Caray]

Most programs Nebraska football would like to consider its peers have most of what Nebraska has (and usually more/better): Big budgets, top tier facilities, strength and conditioning and nutrition programs, and student support (or "support", depending on the institution and/or what the kid is looking for), television exposure. However, programs Nebraska football would like to consider its peers have other things, too: larger and/or wealthier donor pools, proximity to recruiting hotbeds. Nebraska is in a no-man's land as it comes to college football, and is not a "destination" job as some like to say. Most of what used to set Nebraska apart (budget, fan support, exposure) are now commonplace, and the style of play changes from option and power football no longer make Nebraska unique, we're just trying to be like everyone else. And when you concede stylistic advantages in favor a systems others run, you're success is then based on the ability to recruit, develop, and coach better than those you want to consider your peers. The only institutional advantage I can think of that we have now is the athletic performance lab we have, but I'm unaware of any gains we're achieved as a result (not saying we haven't, just unaware).

Additionally, if the goal is to make money in spite of results, obviously mission accomplished for us and many professional franchises.

Mike Leach was innovative. Mark Helfrich and RIch Rodriguez were innovative. We have not been.

It's going to take someone special to turn the Nebraska football program into the winner we want it to be. And for a coach to accept that challenge, it's going to cost a pretty penny.

Frost is a pretty innovative coach, going back to his time at Oregon - they experimented with all kinds of cutting-edge stuff. Here's an article about it: http://footballscoop.com/news/how-to-get-two-days-worth-of-reps-in-10-minutes/

Our Athletic Performance Lab might be something that could entice Frost to come here. I'm guessing UCF and most other programs don't have this:
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=209874650

 

[saluno22]

Frost is a pretty innovative coach, going back to his time at Oregon - they experimented with all kinds of cutting-edge stuff. Here's an article about it: http://footballscoop.com/news/how-to-get-two-days-worth-of-reps-in-10-minutes/

Our Athletic Performance Lab might be something that could entice Frost to come here. I'm guessing UCF and most other programs don't have this:
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=209874650

Agree. I hope people didn't take my post as "I don't think Frost is the right guy." I think he would be great here for the exact reasons you and those links point out. The fact that he grew up here and played here are just sweeteners.

My point was more in line with what others were saying that coaches have to think about their career when making a move to a program like Nebraska. We are certainly in a unique position right now, and not in a good way. We shouldn't expect any type of "hometown discount" or whatever as it comes to Frost. The question is does Frost think he can be successful as a coach here? There's a balance between the degree of challenge and prestige a job has.

 

[BHeinDaHuskers]

this is total assumption on my part but I believe a week from today we will be saying hello to our new AD. There is a bye week that week and its the perfect time to introduce a new AD.

I dont know if it will happen but the time seems like to fit perfect. They will have had what 3 weeks to find one. I might be early but I think with how the Huskers are playing I think it has forced things to move quicker than what they would have liked.

I also believe Riley will be let go this sunday after getting destroyed from OSU. Plus the new AD doesn't want to fire anyone in his first month on the job. This is all just a total assumption based on gut feelings and the calendar in front of me.

 

[Mack In Motion]

TCU AD turned down a offer to come here. he is staying put. I don't get why Riley needs to be fired, it's year 3 and he is playing a bunch of younger kids, maybe CAV AND LANGDICK but keep the hc.

Who hired Cav and Langs? And Banker? Was it Eichorst?