Maybe the lure of Mike Reid as GM/songwriter could win him over?Damn it. We can’t hire him then. When the Vols want him, he’ll just leave. We can’t have that.
Maybe the lure of Mike Reid as GM/songwriter could win him over?Damn it. We can’t hire him then. When the Vols want him, he’ll just leave. We can’t have that.
In case NU crashes in the 2nd half of their season? Why not get a good security like Franklin did in ‘21?If Rhule did (desperately) why agree to the extension now? Why not try to slow play it until the end of the season to leave the PSU job as a possibility?
Because he wasn't being considered for itIf Rhule did (desperately) why agree to the extension now? Why not try to slow play it until the end of the season to leave the PSU job as a possibility?
I'm sure "many" coaches want this job but is right guys who can succeed?
Some of us said all along that it wasn't going to be Cignetti or Rhule. Hartline was a relatively recent change...during the bye weekThey're just watching videos and reading things from other people who don’t know and then they pretend like they have connections. First it was Rhule now Elko then it will be someone else. It’s the beginning of November for **** sake unless it’s Hartline or another assistant nothing is getting done anytime soon.
Andy FrankPardon my ignorance, does Penn State currently have a GM?
Who is a Franklin guy. If he gets another job , Frank will go with himAndy Frank
Cael would put a winner on the field. That guy just doesn't just talk about domination like Franklin, he actually does itCael Sanderson agrees.
Serious question - what makes people think he would be “less” successful than Franklin?I like the idea of Hartline except he doesn't have the head coaching experience. I find it hard to believe that the PSU job is going to go to someone without experience.
Mike Elko has less of a resume than Franklin. I don't know would make people think that he will be more successful than Franklin.
Good riddanceWho is a Franklin guy. If he gets another job , Frank will go with him
The devil-you-know versus the devil-you-don’t-know paradox.Serious question - what makes people think he would be “less” successful than Franklin?
Proverb.The devil-you-know versus the devil-you-don’t-know paradox.
If this is how it really plays out, it’s not the splash hire everyone was pining for when Franklin was fired. Make no mistake. This is a total rebuild.I asked the Grok AI and it thinks Hartline as the most likely. It has Chesney and Diaz as 2nd and 3rd most likely.
Not in football he wouldn’t.Cael would put a winner on the field. That guy just doesn't just talk about domination like Franklin, he actually does it
Like the current Franklin-recruited roster isn’t a total rebuild?If this is how it really plays out, it’s not the splash hire everyone was pining for when Franklin was fired. Make no mistake. This is a total rebuild.
I don’t know why anyone would be posturing for Brohm, unless they were a troll.Brohm seems like a long shot. Jeff and his brothers Brian and Greg were born, raised, and went to high school in Louisville. All three played for and currently work for Louisville. Louisville seems like a final destination for the Brohm brothers.
Like the current Franklin-recruited roster isn’t a total rebuild?
Go spew your pro-Fraudklin crapola elsewhere, gummy boy.
Right and the ACC is a bastion of integrity.I don’t know why anyone would be posturing for Brohm, unless they were a troll.
Jeff is a smart developer of QB’s and an innovative offensive-minded coach but even he saw how corrupt the B1G is while at Purdue.
The annual James Franklin still has an axe to grind with MD beat down. Should be fun.
I keep reading not to worry that a new coach can quickly turn over the roster with portal players to instantly be good again? Couldn’t Franklin have done that as well?
3 new WRs playing over Franklin guys.
1 new OL playing over Franklin guys,
1 new LB playing over Franklin guys,
1 new DE/DT with some playing time
1 new S (sort of) playing over Franklin guys
1 new DT playing backup role with some playing time.
I’m not sure I completely buy the narrative that Franklin didn’t want to use the portal and was only loyal to his guys.
Not a chance this is accurateFans tend to overestimate the appeal of their good ole alma mater. This is a great opportunity but less than most on here realize
If I remember correctly from Rivals, Concealed Carry and PSU4U were claimed insiders for college football conference realignment and did seem to get some accurate inside info.
I know Kenny is a big Titans fan and he’s buddies with Kerry Collins, so there is a connection.I thought Kenny Chesney was a big Vols fan?
I've had a bunch of buddies bring up this point, is Hartline even in consideration for jobs anywhere else? Is the fact that we can't beat OSU a bigger draw to Hartline than it should be? Guys been an OC less than a yr, yes he's a good recruiter, but doesn't OSU pretty much recruit itself? Just food for thought, I'd personally rather have a guy like Campbell that has built something from the ground up.Mike Elko ; Texas A & M or Brian Hartline. Times a ticking. Kraft going after ELKO hard.
Wonder if Franklin would rather wait and see if Maryland comes open. I would think Tech has an easier path to the College playoffs.Franklin to VT.
I hear you!I'm hearing it's Meyer, and he's bringing Hartline as OC, Day as DC, and 20 players from OSU.
All you "I'm hearing" guys are hearing precisely shiat... You're throwing every name in the book out there so at the end you can proclaim you were right.
Having read the Terps board often over the years, that move would be comical.Wonder if Franklin would rather wait and see if Maryland comes open. I would think Tech has an easier path to the College playoffs.
No only guy that may be left is Terry Smith. The others goneWhat if some of these guys are too nice to fire the coordinators? Thinking if Hartline got it, he may keep Knowles around and Chesney may be talked into keeping the whole lot including Kotelnicki. Whoever it is, to really do this right they better get rid of all remnants of what we're watching now.
I wish he wouldKenny Chesney would give up music for it.
I think there is finally a truthful statement on this thread!Cael would put a winner on the field. That guy just doesn't just talk about domination like Franklin, he actually does it
I don't think we have ever left square one.seems like we are back go square one
At one point you’re going to be posting that Manny Diaz is getting the job. I am convinced that will happen. It’s a very PSU thing to do to go with familiarity and stability.
I've said from the get go, I'd be fine with Rhule, Diaz, etc.. but agree not sure he gets to that "Elite" level that the next guy obviously has to.At one point you’re going to be posting that Manny Diaz is getting the job. I am convinced that will happen. It’s a very PSU thing to do to go with familiarity and stability.
He’s not a Kiffin or Kirby Smart level coach at this point, but he would be good for 9 or 10 wins every year at PSU, and I think he has the potential to achieve more than Franklin.
Hartline has been OC and Co-OC for 3 years and was passing game coordinator before that. He has interviewed for WVU HC last year. No one has any idea how many jobs he has been contacted about already. With all these openings one would be pretty certain that his agent is very busy fielding calls. He has Urban Meyer backing him saying he is ready for a HC job. He has dominated recruiting and developed top NFL WR's like a factory. He has relationships with all the top recruits PSU is recruiting as well as high school coaches. If you want Campbell expect 7-8 win seasons which to me then asks why get rid of JF. It's a lateral move for PSU. Personally I would like Brohm, Hartline or Elko. Brohm may be tough to get out of Louisville his alma mater where his family is located and brothers coach as well. Campbell does nothing for me. He is another Franklin can't beat the good teams but will get you 7-8 wins a year, he already has 3 losses this year. For me he doesn't move the needle at all.I've had a bunch of buddies bring up this point, is Hartline even in consideration for jobs anywhere else? Is the fact that we can't beat OSU a bigger draw to Hartline than it should be? Guys been an OC less than a yr, yes he's a good recruiter, but doesn't OSU pretty much recruit itself? Just food for thought, I'd personally rather have a guy like Campbell that has built something from the ground up.
I agree. I would also like them to consider Chesney. He is a PA guy with 15 years of HC experience leveling up weak programs. The fact that he took over JMU after Cignetti left with virtually the entire roster and did well, speaks to his skill. Can he make the jump to D1 successfully is unknown.At one point you’re going to be posting that Manny Diaz is getting the job. I am convinced that will happen. It’s a very PSU thing to do to go with familiarity and stability.
He’s not a Kiffin or Kirby Smart level coach at this point, but he would be good for 9 or 10 wins every year at PSU, and I think he has the potential to achieve more than Franklin.