so I'm thinking as I read the article on Mullen....

[gravedigger]

****.

That thing will work better than a resume any day.

maybe an average season this year or a chic-fil-a with a pedestrian amount of media coverage will do us better than another gator bowl type year.

That somabish is going to get some more offers this year.

Fact is if we have the success we should this year and next with a solid qb, we are going to be fighting off Texas, Florida again, and Notre Dame for him.

All that **** he spouts to the media about OM is a good cover. They hate him and that's cool. But they cannot deny he runs the program well. 17 it.

I was going to 'go out on a limb' and predict 7-5next year because that is where we probablyend up even if we are capable of more.

He does better than that and a bowl win and we are going to need 4 grandaddys a year to keep him.

 

[gravedigger]

****.

That thing will work better than a resume any day.

maybe an average season this year or a chic-fil-a with a pedestrian amount of media coverage will do us better than another gator bowl type year.

That somabish is going to get some more offers this year.

Fact is if we have the success we should this year and next with a solid qb, we are going to be fighting off Texas, Florida again, and Notre Dame for him.

All that **** he spouts to the media about OM is a good cover. They hate him and that's cool. But they cannot deny he runs the program well. 17 it.

I was going to 'go out on a limb' and predict 7-5next year because that is where we probablyend up even if we are capable of more.

He does better than that and a bowl win and we are going to need 4 grandaddys a year to keep him.

 

[biguglyjoe]

*******

 

[Shmuley]

Be more concerned about the search for his replacement. Here's hoping Keenum steps up and handles it.

 

[FireworksForJeffy]

he's gotta beat an SEC West team not named "Ole Miss" before the big schools start trying to snag him.

 

[gravedigger]

We need to be looking now and doing so with more than just grasshopper.

He beats Auburn, Arkansas, Um and UT or some other east team this year and he's no better than the last two years.

He's at State. He's played against the 3 best teams in the universe the last 3 years and that isnt including arkansas who made a bcs game.
You dont hire based on that crap that tired *** excuse about only beating UM.

You hire based on what he can do with the program you are interviewing him for. He has the resources of those other schools I mentioned and a 4 mil salary, we just wont be able to match.

We need to be working on the next guy like 17ing now. I think we are going to have an unprecedented year in Tyler Russells senior season ifMullen simply holds what he's got this year.

 

[Damn-Dog]

And we will. If he leaves so be it. Tough I really don't think he is going anywhere anymore

 

[FlabLoser]

...and you'll see that particular day at Mullen's office is typical, if not easy, for a D1 coach.

 

[FireworksForJeffy]

A school like UGA, Florida, or wherever isn't going to hire a coach that has only beaten one team in his division for three years, even if he beat them all three of those years. <div>
</div><div>I'm not making this up, this was specifically mentioned in the Athlon article that ranked him higher than Les Miles. The fourth sentence</div><div>
</div><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, Tahoma, 'DejaVu Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">and his only SEC West victories came against rival Ole Miss. While winning the in-state battle is crucial, the Bulldogs need to start beating some of the other teams in the division</span></div><div>
</div><div>If you don't believe it, then why do you follow that up with, "if he beats Auburn, Arkansas...", two division teams that he hasn't beaten yet. No one will believe that he's ready to coach the Alabama's of the world until he does, period. On the bright side, Arkansas might !@*% up their coaching hire, making them a reachable target...</div><div>
edited for grammar.</div><div>
</div>

 

[gravedigger]

resources of MSU and those schools. It isnt that difficult to grasp. Those schools, namely Texas and Notre Dame know he'll have what it takes and they'll need coaches then. Florida already knows.

Outside of auburn, Ole Miss was the only real beatable team the last three years in the west. ****. it aint that hard.We had them beat both years and execution, not coaching cost us.

That ole miss **** is to make ole miss fans feel better and nothing else. we were left fordead when he got here and he's the next man for the next 4 mil job. But not if he ***** the bed this year or next with the offensive talent he has. then bets are off and I'll agree he wont get the offers.

this interview exposed how thourough hs is andwhat he could do with some teamwith ulimited resources that isnt going through a sex scandal. Bottom line we have to do one thing.

Promise the Wilson or Hud the job now, and not wait. May already have.

 

[SLUdog]

he might get a shot at Traditional Powerhouse U. He's been 5-7, 9-4, 7-6. I'd rather be 10-3 and maybe lose Mullen than 7-5 again. And I think 7-5 is much more likely.

 

[DAWG61]

Chris Wilson as head coach if Dan leaves.

 

[Sutterkane]

Wilson's only been a DC for two years. In about 2 more he may be ready for a small program if he is wanting to go that route.

 

[BigMotherTucker]

he's gotta beat an SEC West team not named "Ole Miss" before the big schools start trying to snag him.

the weakest knock people (mostly OM fanboys) use against Mullen. The four teams ahead of us in the west have been top 5 teams the last three years. I hate losing, but there is no shame in not being able to beat Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, and Auburn the last three years.

 

[patdog]

Maybe not the best examples you could have come up with. Auburn, which has been at least as good as UGA over the last 20 years hired a coach who hadn't beaten anybody with both of their last 2 hires. NONE of those 4 coaches had a track record anywhere near what Mullen's is right now at the time they were hired.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

I thought he had a damn good run at OM. Beat a top 5 team or two if I recall right. Or am I reading your post wrong? You said their last two hires. And since you said 4 coaches, I assume you mean UF's last two as well, and Meyer had a great track record.

 

[was21]

nm

 

[maroonmania]

minus the one year with Cam Newton, the other 2 losses to Auburn have been to a VERY average football team. Believe 7-5 was their record in both those years but we did at least play them on the road in both those years. If we don't beat Auburn at home this year there are NO excuses.

 

[patdog]

Mullen's record stands up pretty well compared to that one, especially since he's coaching ina MUCH tougher SEC than the one Tubberville coached in at UM.

 

[Seinfeld]

the only game that we were favored to win against those 4 teams over the last 3 years? I guess I don't understand how someone can damn a guy for not beating teams that he wasn't supposed to beat. Sure, it would look better if he had won a couple of them but it's not like he hasn't w on any games as an underdog. He just hasn't against those 4 teams which also happen to pretty much account for the BCS championship display case over the last decade.

 

[Coach34]

While it may make Bear fans sleep better at night and bother a few State fans when it is said to them, intelligent fans see that Dan Mullen is doing a damn good job at State. You can bet AD's from around the country know. Dan Mullen hasnt had that big Top 10 win yet- but he has improved Miss State's program tremendously and even more importantly- elevated our marketability. He gets talked about alot- therefore getting Miss State talked about- and it's in a positive way.

I really dont worry about him leaving for awhile. He really likes building the program, stadium expansion, new athletic facility...He seriously wants a statue built in his honor one day- and I think he knows he could make that happen at State

 

[Coach34]

not sure how serious they are, but that would suck if it were to happen

 

[patdog]

It caught me completely by surprise just how obsessed they are with him and how much he gets under their skin.

One thing I'm never going to do is worry about a coach being hired away by a bigger program. If that does happen, that's a good thing. It means we won games and he left the program in good shape. I don't necessarily think Mullen will leave anytime soon. But if he does, I'll say thanks for making MSU football relevent again and leaving us in good shape to go make another good hire.</p>

 

[Big Sheep81]

He was asked about the Penn State job and said he got a call telling him he was supposed to sign in less than 12 hrs. He said that was good but he hoped they would call him to let him know before.

He talked about how much his family liked Starkville and mentioned his in-laws looking to move down as well. He said he would take 110 degree heat with high humidity over shoveling 8' snow eight months out of the year. He also said that getting his name in the coach search meant we were winning some games and that was better than not having your name mentioned for openings (with a slight jab at other coaches we know). Mullen won't leave for just any job so that bit of paranoia needs to lie down and rest a while.

I did talk to some folks in the AD office about the BB situation who said this train wreck has been developing over the last several years (duh) and that the idea was as some have said here to let it completely wreck and then re-build. They think the Ray hire was a good one in that Ray can clean up the wreck and get the train back on the track. They said the guy will work his *** off to rebuild and get the program going. They said he has really been working to get past the departures and look to next year's class. Said he didn't want anybody who did not want to stay. We will see.

 

[BearFriendAtWork]

This "we didn't beat them because they are Top 5 teams" thing is getting old, or at least it should be getting old to your fan base. When you struggle to stave off a loss at UAB, maybe it's not just that you played the "greatest teams in the universe" that you have difficulty in the division. I truly am not saying Mullen's not a good coach, but your assessment of him is skewed. Be patient and in a couple years he may have MSU contending.

Nutt beat some big teams in his first two years and didn't have other offers (before the downfall) from major programs; so Fireworks' point is quite valid. Though in fairness to Mullen, schools will be more interested in an upcoming coach at his early stage of the career arch, whereas I'm sure even in his first couple of years, Nutt was viewed as nearing retirement. I think Mullen still has a lot of potential but hasn't really proven himself yet.

 

[The Peeper]

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[BigMotherTucker]

and I love your avatar.

To keep from posting twice:
re: maroonmania
I agree, people act like Mullen isn't **** because he isn't knocking Bama, LSU, and ARky off is absurd. The fact is, We should have beat the War Newtons two years ago at home and we should have beat Auburn on the road last year. The fact that we didn't doesn't make him a ****** coach.

 

[Foronce]

i may have the record wrong, but the point is still the same ...no one is beating them, either

No AD in America would give that a second thought, and you shouldn't either it is stupid to compare us against 3 BCS Champions, a BCS runner up, and another top 5 team.

 

[Foronce]

minus the one year with Cam Newton, the other 2 losses to Auburn have been to a VERY average football team. Believe 7-5 was their record in both those years but we did at least play them on the road in both those years. If we don't beat Auburn at home this year there are NO excuses.

then factor in both were at Auburn, You are smarter than this man.

 

[RocketDawg]

his love for Starkville as much as he does New England snowfall and Mississippi summers. Nowhere in New England will one typically be shoveling 8', or 96", of snow ... that's more than the annual total of any place there. And I've never seen 110F temps in Starkville; if it's even close to that the humidity is always low.

 

[maroonmania]

but to lump Auburn in as a Top 5 or even Top 10 program recently is just incorrect. Take out the Cam Newton aberration year (12-0) and their record in the other 3 seasons in the past 4 years is 19-17. No doubt over the past 10 years they have been a significantly better program than us but you could say that about a lot of programs if you want to go back to Croom and Sherrill's last years. The primary difference in the MSU program and the Auburn program IMO since Mullen and Chizik arrived has been Cam Newton and the fact they have beaten us every year head to head.

 

[ckDOG]

I wouldn't read too much into how he says things. I think the guy likes where he's at. Plus, the physical location of a head football coach is over hyped. If you are working 80-100 hours a week, it doesn't make much difference if you are in Key West, NYC, or Gordo, Alabama - you really aren't going to spend much time sight seeing or doing things outside of the office, practice fields, or recruiting trail. On the rare occasion he has some downtime, he's probably relaxing at his home or getting on a plane to visit somewhere fun.

ETA: Just realized there's a major omission in my logic: the wife. Happy wife, happy life. I guess it all comes down to her. She's been a part of the community from day 1 and urged Dan to give us a look in the first place. Hopefully, we are good there too.

 

[Big Sheep81]

He did say his family loved it here....

 

[RocketDawg]

There's not a bigger Dan supporter than me. Just pointing out his penchant for exaggeration. And I realize the weather is one thing most folks take to the extreme.

 

[hulkbuster]

thing this blackbear posted (only he was a state fan). "I mean he needs to beat somebody else." My response? "You must not have been a state fan long. Because I have seen us lose to Maine before......MAINE!" My point is this: He (Mullen) wins the games he's SUPPOSED to win (although the LaTech game last year was kinda worrysome). And as far as him beating the other teams in our division. Others have said my point. "Who the hell ELSE has beaten them?" Take away ALL arky's losses to Bama & LSU, LSU's losses to Bama & vice-versa and who HAS beaten them?

 

[gravedigger]

and I mean stomped.

This whole "you couldnt win when nobody else could" argument is fresh as pile of **** you live off.

I've always acknowleged it as the wine poured from your sour grapes. You know one thing. As long as he exists at State, you lose to us. THE ONLY thing you get to hang your hats on is who else we lose to. THAT IS THE ONLY THING.

You'd do the best service to OM by paying someone else his first year salary to leave us.

Other than that, shut the ever loving !%$! up.

 

[jmbeck]

Nm

 

[jethreauxdawg]

...and you'll see that particular day at Mullen's office is typical, if not easy, for a D1 coach.

That article sounded a lot like <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Meat Market</span>

 

[wbc40]

I'll be more interested if you ever turn out to be right about anything.

 

[Rebels7]

I think Tuberville only had 54 scholarship players on his first Ole Miss team. The Brewer thing really put him in a hole. It was an absolute dumpster fire with all of the sanctions he had to deal with.