Looks like they threw the ACC a bone and inexplicably flipped Miami and ND since they couldn't justify putting Duke in.
Joey Galloway is right.
So is Alabama out?
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Looks like they threw the ACC a bone and inexplicably flipped Miami and ND since they couldn't justify putting Duke in.
Joey Galloway is right.
I understand its not about me. I was simply offering my opinion.
And it doesnt matter what the players and coaches want either, it is solely about what makes more money.
The DEI model could be argued to bring in fans of teams outside the Southeat, but I haven't looked into the numbers.
Im saying I personally ( thats me saying its my opinion) am getting tired of watching rematches in the playoffs.
I dont think you can call putting Miami over ND "inexpliccable". They did play them on the field, and won.
I say "inexplicable" due to the decision to flip them from last week when nothing changed on either resume'. If ND was better last week, what did either team do while sitting on the couch this weekend to change that?
This is the type of inconsistency in their "process" that invites accusations of ulterior motives.
Hope that clarifies things.
It's not all about money. This current model is about pleasing the AD's and presidents of non-SEC / Big 10 schools. If it were all about money, it would be the best 12 teams period. It would be loaded with SEC and Big 10 schools.
That sure is how it appears and why I question how they decided to flip the two. I'm not debating which is more deserving or better, just how they changed their minds from one week to the next when nothing changed with the situation.
The inconsistency in the reasoning and listening to Hunter Yurachek talk out of both sides of his mouth convinces me that they do what they need to do to arrive at a field that most closely resembles the one they want without having to do something blatantly corrupt (like put Duke in the field).
Notre Dame plays a tougher schedule than teams in the ACC and Big 12. Freeman cost Notre Dame when he went for two against aTm. Should have played for overtime.
You’re never going to have the best teams if you take teams like JMU and Tulane. They are going to get boat raced.
My son just said Alabama and Miami in. ND out. Surprised ND is out. I was wrong, they didn't take the path of least resistance.
But U beat Irish first game of season. How do they justify putting Irish ahead of U?
Just not enough room on the plate for Irish this go around.
Again, not arguing their placement, just wondering how they justify having them flip from one ranking to the next when neither one played this weekend. If they thought ND was better on Tuesday, what did either team do since then to justify the change of heart?
I heard Hunter's ridiculous reason and it's just laughable.
I'm about to turn 75 years old. This is the first time in my life that it could remotely be said that Notre Dame got screwed out of something. They have been the fair-haired darlings of college football pollsters and media types ever since Ara Parseghian took over there. I'm giddy with excitement over their being repudiated.
Im with you 100% on this one. Imo, they shouldn't have to flip because ND should never have been the higher seed.
But the flip makes no sense.
Right.
ND is flaming the commitee, saying any rankings prior to the final ones are a farce.
Strange they are only realizing it after it negatively impacts them for the first time; pretty sure any honest observer arrived at that conclusion a long time ago (2014 TCU says hello).
It's pointless to even have a CFP rankings prior to the final one. The committee has no obligation to make weekly reveals of rankings that don't matter. I suppose they do it so that ESPN can build a TV show around it each week, but it just invites controversy.
You're right, of course, and we all know it's just "made for TV drama" to give them product for selling ad time and keeping the masses talking and watching.
They're in business for one reason - to make money (and they deal in hundreds of millions, not small potatoes).
The committee has no obligation to make weekly reveals of rankings that don't matter.
I'm pretty sure I read that the weekly show is a contractual obligation that's part of the media rights agreement with ESPN to promote the playoff. So that tells you it's a made-for-TV event.
EDIT: found it. It says ESPN pays the conferences $1 billion annually for the right to the playoff and it includes six rankings shows in which the rankings are revealed followed by a news conference with the chair.
So, there you go - it's 100% a TV production paid for and broadcast by ESPN.
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You mean you don't think it's great that college football is becoming like the NFL?
In all reality, Tulane and James Madison should have been replaced by Notre Dame and BYU. Vandy could whine about it, but they lost to Alabama. The Miami thing is the real middle finger in all of this. It's such an obvious and ridiculous bone thrown to the ACC.
the 20th and 24th ranked teams in the nation being in the CFP is an absurdity beyond description
I just cant get on the ant-Miami hype train. I would pick them over ND 100 times out of 100.
I'm 64 and you are 100% correct. ND has been the darling of the sporting press and polls for my whole life and I have hated them for as long as I have been aware of college football. Seeing them left out of the playoff gives me a warm feeling. Watching them get their lip poked out and pout and refuse to play in a bowl confirms my belief that they are a bunch of entitled spoiled brats.
The only other situation where there is a team that gets coddled anywhere close to ND is the way the SEC coddles and protects Alabama.
Add a three loss Alabama team being in as well. Especially since UGA beat them like a rented mule Saturday. Every team in the country, even the ones that didn't play Saturday had more rushing yards than Alabama did.
I don't really care between Miami and ND. I do believe that ND is probably the better team right now as opposed to three moths ago when they played each other, but that's not the fly in the pintment here. What was ridiculous is how the committee broke their own guidelines and flipped the two teams when neither of them played. That was a painfully obvious "DEI" type handout to the ACC.
Last year, they at least stuck to their stated policy of not rewarding/penalizing teams that didn't play on conference championship weekend. If Virginia had beaten Duke, they would've gotten in and the committee would've gone with Notre Dame over Miami. Duke threw the wrench in and they had to toss the ACC the Miami bone.
I agree the flipping was ridiculous. 100%.
Miami should never have been behind ND. Same record, and Miami had the H2H.
Imo, if UVA won, and ND got in over Miami, one would have to ask why they even play the games?
The committee really threw a lifeline to DeBoer. Bama was absolutely dominated by UGA on Saturday, particularly up front. If they were left out of the CFP on the heels of a performance like that, pressure would have really amped up to make a change. There were rumblings that would happen if they lost the Iron Bowl. It was assumed getting to the SECCG soothed all the worry, but then UGA demolished them up front. As it is, Bama fans are still no thrilled, but you can't push for dismissing a coach who has you in the CFP, even if it's by the hair of your chinny chin chin.
Putting Miami and Bama in are simply more evidence that the CFP is nothing more than a football based reality show put on by ESPN.
Miami is a bone thrown to the ACC, who doesn't deserve to have a team in the CFP. Bama is nothing more than ESPN making sure one of their "big stars" doesn't get left out of their show.
I was shocked ND was not in. They are the biggest star in the college football tv lineup. ESPN has to be really hating Duke right now. If Duke had done what they were supposed to do and lost to UVA, ESPN could have put UVA in as ACC champ and still had room for ND. They could have probably left Bama out after UGA took the belt to that a** and no one would have been upset.