are upset at Nutt for not firing any of his incompetent assistants. That seems very "croomsesque" if you ask me. Not getting rid of dead weight, that is.
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are upset at Nutt for not firing any of his incompetent assistants. That seems very "croomsesque" if you ask me. Not getting rid of dead weight, that is.
Sadly, because of the buyout, and the fact that I think Nutt still likes Nix, I think he will not be one of those changes.
That's why I was hoping you'd score 60 on us. We needed a death blow for Nix. I think he stays now, and I think we'll be looking for a brand new staff in 2012 because of that. That's just my opinion though. I hope I'm wrong on Nix, and if I'm not, I hope he proves me wrong next fall.
That's why I was hoping you'd score 60 on us. We needed a death blow for Nix. I think he stays now, and I think we'll be looking for a brand new staff in 2012 because of that. That's just my opinion though. I hope I'm wrong on Nix, and if I'm not, I hope he proves me wrong next fall.
that it is very "croomesque" of Nutt to not gid rid of coaches that everyone wants gone and that aren't performing?
so that next year he has a ready-made excuse, and can then throw Nix under the bus. Afterward, he will use quotable phrases, like "rebuilding the right way" with a new staff, and he will demand a fresh new "commitment to excellence" from the team, so he can usher in a "return to glory" for the mighty Rebs.
It's similar to a common ploy used by politicians (and a few preachers) wanting to stretch out their cush gigs as long as possible. Always have someone else to blame, then muster a fiery speech that excites the mostly gullible masses, and - voila - one more year and another $2.5 million. Nutt has that part down pat. This guy knows how to work the system.
It's similar to a common ploy used by politicians (and a few preachers) wanting to stretch out their cush gigs as long as possible. Always have someone else to blame, then muster a fiery speech that excites the mostly gullible masses, and - voila - one more year and another $2.5 million. Nutt has that part down pat. This guy knows how to work the system.
I don't know what is different about the situations, but that's what I recall. Is Nutt simply a bigger name, more powerful than Cut? Or did the two attempts at hiring coaches give Boone a bad taste in his mouth about pulling the trigger too early?
I could also see that just being the reason given, but that there were other factors involved in getting rid of Cutcliffe.
I could also see that just being the reason given, but that there were other factors involved in getting rid of Cutcliffe.
Hmm. Underperformed with the talent on the roster, fans want some turnover but coach is resistant, major changes the next year if no results, dropping attendance... Boy this sounds awful familiar to what another team went through in 2002-03 doesn't it?
am very surprised that there haven't been any changes whatsoever. I mean, they lost to a I-AA team, and their two main rivals.
Not that changes could necessarily make things better, but I think you have to show people that you're trying.
Not that changes could necessarily make things better, but I think you have to show people that you're trying.
Replace his assistants (and pay buyouts, which hurts a lower tier team's budget) and Nutt has to improve this year, when the talent may not yet be there. If he still has enough good will from the two cotton bowl years (which he should), he can get another year next year by replacing his staff, and hopefully by then his O-line will be older and better, he will have found a qb, and the youngsters replacing the current seniors on defense will have come into their own.
My guess is the talent would make next year tough for Nutt regardless of his staff, but by waiting a year, he'll have more money when looking for his next staff. On the other hand, then he'll only have one year left, which may make it difficult to attract a good staff. My guess is that it's 6 of one, half dozen of another, but that the buyouts tip the scales (in Boon's mind) slightly toward standing pat.</p>
My guess is the talent would make next year tough for Nutt regardless of his staff, but by waiting a year, he'll have more money when looking for his next staff. On the other hand, then he'll only have one year left, which may make it difficult to attract a good staff. My guess is that it's 6 of one, half dozen of another, but that the buyouts tip the scales (in Boon's mind) slightly toward standing pat.</p>
improve the team (i'm sure it was suggested he fire assistants as part of that plan) and he refused. I'm sure he would have refused to fire assistants too but failing to submit that plan gives Boone the out that Cut was insubordinate (which he technically was). I'm also sure that Boone is still suffering from the O factor and the fact that you can't keep firing hc's every two years if you ever want to get better.
rouser is right in that they asked Cut to present a plan. His plan was to stay status quo, and we would improve, which was basically a 17 you to the administration for asking. They were expecting staff changes of some sort. Cutcliffe forced their hand. That's why it took more than a week for them to go through meetings with him before they eventually fired him. If firing him was the plan all along it would've happpened a few days following the Egg Bowl at most. They wanted to give Cutcliffe a year to turn things around, but they wanted to see changes that were going to make that happen. He gave them nothing. The worst part about that is that we went into a coaching search late in the game with no plan and an appearance that we weren't patient. It was a recipe for disaster, and it landed us a disaster.
Boone doesn't want that to happen again, so he's giving Nutt the freedom to make his own decisions. He's even come out publicly and said so.
I would guess that if Nutt keeps the entire staff together Nutt will have given himself an even shorter leash next year. I think he could give himself some leeway for a poor season next year if he'd make a lot of changes. Some in this thread have suggested that he would be trying to buy a 5th year by giving himself some heads to cut off after the 2011 season, if it doesn't go well. I think just the opposite would be the case. Nutt hasn't been given the ultimatum publicly, but I think he knows he can't have a repeat in 2011, and I'm pretty sure that's been made clear. I think 2011 is his do or die year, and if he thinks he can turn it around with this staff, it's his choice. He gets to decide what it is going to take to turn it around. If it works, he keeps his job. If it doesn't, he and the entire staff lose their jobs.
That's just speculation on my part. Like I said, I do expect staff changes, but I get the sinking feeling Nix won't be part of the changes, and that's the biggest problem. The way I see it, Boone is giving Nutt the rope. He can either decide to use it to pull himself out of the hole or hang himself.
Outside of the Orgeron era, we haven't had back to back losing seasons since 1993 and 1994, and 94 was the Joe Lee Dunn interim year created by our probation. We haven't lost 3 years in a row to MSU since pre-WWII, and Nutt was the first coach to lose 2 in a row to MSU since 76 and 77, wins that were later forfeited by MSU, so the way I see it he has to have a winning season in 2011 AND win the Egg Bowl. If he were to go 9-3 or 8-4 with an Egg Bowl loss, he'd probably survive for 2012, but 6-6 or 7-5 with an Egg Bowl loss and I think he's gone. An Egg Bowl win and 5-7, and I think he's gone. I don't think he will have the freedom to buy himself 2012.
Boone doesn't want that to happen again, so he's giving Nutt the freedom to make his own decisions. He's even come out publicly and said so.
I would guess that if Nutt keeps the entire staff together Nutt will have given himself an even shorter leash next year. I think he could give himself some leeway for a poor season next year if he'd make a lot of changes. Some in this thread have suggested that he would be trying to buy a 5th year by giving himself some heads to cut off after the 2011 season, if it doesn't go well. I think just the opposite would be the case. Nutt hasn't been given the ultimatum publicly, but I think he knows he can't have a repeat in 2011, and I'm pretty sure that's been made clear. I think 2011 is his do or die year, and if he thinks he can turn it around with this staff, it's his choice. He gets to decide what it is going to take to turn it around. If it works, he keeps his job. If it doesn't, he and the entire staff lose their jobs.
That's just speculation on my part. Like I said, I do expect staff changes, but I get the sinking feeling Nix won't be part of the changes, and that's the biggest problem. The way I see it, Boone is giving Nutt the rope. He can either decide to use it to pull himself out of the hole or hang himself.
Outside of the Orgeron era, we haven't had back to back losing seasons since 1993 and 1994, and 94 was the Joe Lee Dunn interim year created by our probation. We haven't lost 3 years in a row to MSU since pre-WWII, and Nutt was the first coach to lose 2 in a row to MSU since 76 and 77, wins that were later forfeited by MSU, so the way I see it he has to have a winning season in 2011 AND win the Egg Bowl. If he were to go 9-3 or 8-4 with an Egg Bowl loss, he'd probably survive for 2012, but 6-6 or 7-5 with an Egg Bowl loss and I think he's gone. An Egg Bowl win and 5-7, and I think he's gone. I don't think he will have the freedom to buy himself 2012.
If he holds his staff completely together through February to make a change, that would be pretty bad, especially if they make major changes. It would effectively force his assistants to miss the period when jobs are open, and it would be dishonest to the players.
That said, all I really care about is my team and whether or not we win. If a few assistants get screwed and a few players have to come in and develop a new relationship with coaches, so be it.
That said, all I really care about is my team and whether or not we win. If a few assistants get screwed and a few players have to come in and develop a new relationship with coaches, so be it.
Nutt knows what he is doing and it's called getting paid. HDN knows next years team will be worse than this year, so he will fire coaches after next year and then get paid for 2012. Nutt will not be the coach in 2013.RebelBruiser said:
What changes he makes are another thing.
Also, I think the big gripe with Croom was McCorvey. The ultimate problem there was Croom, not McCorvey. It would've been hard for Croom to justify firing himself. Not hiring a real OC and turning it over to him was Croom's problem. If our offense sucked this year, it wouldn't be Rader that would be to blame. It would be Nutt. Then if he refused to hire an OC, it would be very similar. The problem we had this year was on defense.
Not firing Nix would definitely bother me, though for it to be too Croom-like, it would have to happen again in 2011 with still no change before 2012.
To address the other post, I really don't think Nutt survives a poor 2011 season, especially if he makes it 3 straight to MSU. I could be wrong on that, but I think 2011 is make or break for Nutt. That's why I think you're going to see him sign 5 or 6 Jucos. He knows he has to fill holes now. He doesn't have time to wait for guys to develop.
Also, I think the big gripe with Croom was McCorvey. The ultimate problem there was Croom, not McCorvey. It would've been hard for Croom to justify firing himself. Not hiring a real OC and turning it over to him was Croom's problem. If our offense sucked this year, it wouldn't be Rader that would be to blame. It would be Nutt. Then if he refused to hire an OC, it would be very similar. The problem we had this year was on defense.
Not firing Nix would definitely bother me, though for it to be too Croom-like, it would have to happen again in 2011 with still no change before 2012.
To address the other post, I really don't think Nutt survives a poor 2011 season, especially if he makes it 3 straight to MSU. I could be wrong on that, but I think 2011 is make or break for Nutt. That's why I think you're going to see him sign 5 or 6 Jucos. He knows he has to fill holes now. He doesn't have time to wait for guys to develop.
did as I recall. Hell, media types were listing Nix as the next great hc prospect as recently as early this season (and even after Jax State). I think another major fear would be losing a lot of this class by firing the Nixes (pretty sure firing one means firing the other).