So it turns out

[POTUS]

That everyone who witnessed the incident was in agreement that Kyren Lacy did cause that fatal accident. Contra what his family’s lawyer tried to insinuate earlier in the week.

I wonder if resident ESPN moron Ryan Clark will walk back his attack on police? As always, waiting to see the whole story instead of jumping to conclusions is undefeated.

 

[retire the banner]

Least surprising news ever. But at least we got to read Quoars King professing his love for Colin Kaepernick because he believed Kyren Lacy was innocent for a few days

 

[patdog]

It's so easy. You put out a carefully edited video to show just a small part of what happened, and out of context at that, and the masses just jump on it as the gospel truth. Are there bad cops out there? Absolutely. But generally speaking, when they arrest you and charge you with a felony, it's probably because you're guilty.

 

[onewoof]

I think anyone that might have a sustantial career ahead of them might try a hail mary last ditch effort to see if they could get out of something. He was projected to be in the 2nd round of the NFL draft and have $10M or so headed his way.

Not sure of his case and what will happen. Could be looking at a few years in the pen.

 

[DT4248]

I think anyone that might have a sustantial career ahead of them might try a hail mary last ditch effort to see if they could get out of something. He was projected to be in the 2nd round of the NFL draft and have $10M or so headed his way.

Not sure of his case and what will happen. Could be looking at a few years in the pen.

He killed himself already. Was pretty obvious he knew he did it from that moment.

 

[onewoof]

He killed himself already. Was pretty obvious he knew he did it from that moment.

Had no idea. Damn.

 

[FreeDawg]

Even if he would have been found guilty of charges related to the crash, he would have gotten out in a few years life intact. I cannot fathom being so terrified of the can to the point of suicide. You made a mistake. Go do your time. Come home and live a life of redemption. Sad story all around but I just don’t get it.

 

[Drebin]

It's so easy. You put out a carefully edited video to show just a small part of what happened, and out of context at that, and the masses just jump on it as the gospel truth.

This is right out of the playbook.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Even if he would have been found guilty of charges related to the crash, he would have gotten out in a few years life intact. I cannot fathom being so terrified of the can to the point of suicide. You made a mistake. Go do your time. Come home and live a life of redemption. Sad story all around but I just don’t get it.

Ever been to prison? Might go watch some of Jeremy McCord’s stuff.

 

[stateu1]

Ever been to jail?

Clearly not. Even 1 night in county lock up sucks azz.

 

[paindonthurt]

It's so easy. You put out a carefully edited video to show just a small part of what happened, and out of context at that, and the masses just jump on it as the gospel truth. Are there bad cops out there? Absolutely. But generally speaking, when they arrest you and charge you with a felony, it's probably because you're guilty.

By generally its probably 85% plus if not more!

 

[Atrain0311]

It's so easy. You put out a carefully edited video to show just a small part of what happened, and out of context at that, and the masses just jump on it as the gospel truth. Are there bad cops out there? Absolutely. But generally speaking, when they arrest you and charge you with a felony, it's probably because you're guilty.

I had a long thought out post on why I believe he still isn’t completely at fault, but it’s not worth it. I have to remember the ideologies of the people on this board and realize it’s not worth arguing.

 

[paindonthurt]

Ever been to prison? Might go watch some of Jeremy McCord’s stuff.

A lot of people have gone to prison for a couple of years and came out ok.

 

[Felonious Junk]

I had a long thought out post on why I believe he still isn’t completely at fault, but it’s not worth it. I have to remember the ideologies of the people on this board and realize it’s not worth arguing.

Thank you for sparing us. I’m sure it sounded way better in your head than it would have if you posted it.

 

[FreeDawg]

Ever been to prison? Might go watch some of Jeremy McCord’s stuff.

Don’t know who that is and doesn’t matter. Let’s just talk statistical odds. You’d survive. Are there people that get killed at Parchmen occasionally at camp 29 or SMCI… sure. Of the thousands or incarcerated people, most don’t die. Your risk of severe bodily injury is probably higher playing SEC or professional football.

 

[Arnept]

I had a long thought out post on why I believe he still isn’t completely at fault, but it’s not worth it. I have to remember the ideologies of the people on this board and realize it’s not worth arguing.

He put others in a position where they had to fear for their lives. They weren't thinking rationally, just about living.

If you are driving into head on traffic 20+ mph over the speed limit and then swerve back into your lane last second, you are fully responsible for what you caused.

There aren't any "idealogies" behind this. It's common sense.

 

[paindonthurt]

Least surprising news ever. But at least we got to read Quoars King professing his love for Colin Kaepernick because he believed Kyren Lacy was innocent for a few days

Several people in that thread that should be hiding in a corner but you won't hear from them.

 

[paindonthurt]

I had a long thought out post on why I believe he still isn’t completely at fault, but it’s not worth it. I have to remember the ideologies of the people on this board and realize it’s not worth arguing.

I have no idea whether he was guilty or not, but the cops did nothing wrong.

FACTS:
They have video evidence of him speeding in the wrong lane.
They have video evidence of multiple eyewitnesses blaming the green car.
They presented that evidence to a DA.
The DA brought charges.
Kyren Lacy chose to commit suicide vs going to trial.

There isn't any way to argue with the above.

 

[paindonthurt]

Don’t know who that is and doesn’t matter. Let’s just talk statistical odds. You’d survive. Are there people that get killed at Parchmen occasionally at camp 29 or SMCI… sure. Of the thousands or incarcerated people, most don’t die. Your risk of severe bodily injury is probably higher playing SEC or professional football.

You have to understand who you are talking to here.

Jackson downtown is perfectly fine and safe.
Go to prison for manslaughter = definitely gonna die

$2.9 million
#AIphotoshop
#MikeGundy

 

[Atrain0311]

He put others in a position where they had to fear for their lives. They weren't thinking rationally, just about living.

If you are driving into head on traffic 20+ mph over the speed limit and then swerve back into your lane last second, you are fully responsible for what you caused.

There aren't any "idealogies" behind this. It's common sense.

The ideologies part was aimed at people who take the word of police as gossip regardless of circumstance. Which happens a lot especially on this board. My point is there are a lot of nuances here at play and to completely say “see I knew the police were correct” is shortsighted. Especially when you factor in a cop coercing witnesses which is another issue in itself. Multiple things can be true. It sounds like he was passing vehicles and the other driver panicked and swerved. Based on the video posted earlier it would seem they had plenty of time to react. However I am willing to understand how it can be intimidating to see someone in your lane, but being from Mississippi, I’m sure most of us have dealt with that before, or have been the one passing vehicles on similar roads. This person reacted poorly. Not saying they are at fault either, it’s just the unfortunate situation. But to dismiss prior evidence and quickly just say that “police right, everyone else wrong” is another example of why I didn’t feel like posting a long reaction, and while 90% of the time I avoid the thread entirely. But I figured this time I would least spoke my mind a little.

 

[Atrain0311]

I have no idea whether he was guilty or not, but the cops did nothing wrong.

FACTS:
They have video evidence of him speeding in the wrong lane.
They have video evidence of multiple eyewitnesses blaming the green car.
They presented that evidence to a DA.
The DA brought charges.
Kyren Lacy chose to commit suicide vs going to trial.

There isn't any way to argue with the above.

I cannot argue with any of those things. What’s also facts is that the police tried to coerce a witness who stated that the green car did not cause the accident.
The suicide is a terribly sad situation obviously, but that is not an admission of guilt, so I would wish people would start conflating the two.
Maybe just maybe his mental health took a serious hit once he realized that everything that he worked for was gone, and his life potentially ruined especially if he truly felt he was innocent.

 

[Atrain0311]

Thank you for sparing us. I’m sure it sounded way better in your head than it would have if you posted it.

And I bet that sounded better in your head as well lol. I usually avoid these threads because it’s always the same thing. But I figured I’d at least say something, even if it meant saying nothing.

 

[Arnept]

The ideologies part was aimed at people who take the word of police as gossip regardless of circumstance. Which happens a lot especially on this board. My point is there are a lot of nuances here at play and to completely say “see I knew the police were correct” is shortsighted. Especially when you factor in a cop coercing witnesses which is another issue in itself. Multiple things can be true. It sounds like he was passing vehicles and the other driver panicked and swerved. Based on the video posted earlier it would seem they had plenty of time to react. However I am willing to understand how it can be intimidating to see someone in your lane, but being from Mississippi, I’m sure most of us have dealt with that before, or have been the one passing vehicles on similar roads. This person reacted poorly. Not saying they are at fault either, it’s just the unfortunate situation. But to dismiss prior evidence and quickly just say that “police right, everyone else wrong” is another example of why I didn’t feel like posting a long reaction, and while 90% of the time I avoid the thread entirely. But I figured this time I would least spoke my mind a little.

Did you watch the full video realed by the PD? There was no coercing. Police had no clue what happened when they got to the scene and witnesses were explaining without any form of coercion.

I have no doubt that there are bad cops in this country, but there is not a systemic abuse of power like how some people try to say there is.

 

[paindonthurt]

I cannot argue with any of those things. What’s also facts is that the police tried to coerce a witness who stated that the green car did not cause the accident.
The suicide is a terribly sad situation obviously, but that is not an admission of guilt, so I would wish people would start conflating the two.
Maybe just maybe his mental health took a serious hit once he realized that everything that he worked for was gone, and his life potentially ruined especially if he truly felt he was innocent.

I didn’t say his suicide was an admission of guilt.

but what’s more likely.
He was innocent and killed himself
Or
He was guilty and killed himself?

no need to answer bc it’s obvious which is more likely.

An overwhelming amount of evidence pointed to him being at fault. That wasn’t a decision or conclusion where 1 person decided on it.

he also committed suicide before the grand jury even brought official charges against him.

 

[paindonthurt]

Did you watch the full video realed by the PD? There was no coercing. Police had no clue what happened when they got to the scene and witnesses were explaining without any form of coercion.

I have no doubt that there are bad cops in this country, but there is not a systemic abuse of power like how some people try to say there is.

Black witnesses and yes unfortunately that is important

 

[Atrain0311]

Did you watch the full video realed by the PD? There was no coercing. Police had no clue what happened when they got to the scene and witnesses were explaining without any form of coercion.

I have no doubt that there are bad cops in this country, but there is not a systemic abuse of power like how some people try to say there is.

I’m referring to the first video posted where the cop is coercing the one witness who stated the green car did not cause it.
But yes I did see this video where this guy did say it was the green car. So there is conflicting statements and I’m sure both have valid reasons for their individual statements. My issue was the cop in the initial video coercing the witness.

 

[Atrain0311]

I didn’t say his suicide was an admission of guilt.

but what’s more likely.
He was innocent and killed himself
Or
He was guilty and killed himself?

no need to answer bc it’s obvious which is more likely.

An overwhelming amount of evidence pointed to him being at fault. That wasn’t a decision or conclusion where 1 person decided on it.

he also committed suicide before the grand jury even brought official charges against him.

Definitely not more obvious. If I’m falsely accused of something I would be scared out of my mind. I hate to bring race into this, but if you were black you would understand. One of our biggest fears is being wrongfully accused of a crime because we have no faith in the justice system. I wish it was different but it’s just the way it is. That’s one reason why so many people were in an uproar when the lawyer came out with his information because that resonated with a lot of people. I’m not saying he’s for sure innocent or guilty, and I appreciate the respectful debate here but again conflating suicide with guilt is something I wish people would stop doing.

 

[Atrain0311]

Black witnesses and yes unfortunately that is important

Irrelevant. Where in that post did I say anything about race. I said both statements were made by people who obviously believed what they were saying from their point of view.

 

[mcdawg22]

Contra

 

[thatsbaseball]

Even if he would have been found guilty of charges related to the crash, he would have gotten out in a few years life intact. I cannot fathom being so terrified of the can to the point of suicide. You made a mistake. Go do your time. Come home and live a life of redemption. Sad story all around but I just don’t get it.

“Mental Health is real, and for the most part, it's invisible, don't ignore the signs, even if they may seem small," he continued. “Our lives have changed forever and this will never be ok, but God needed my baby more than he was needed here."

This is a quote from his dad. There must have been some other previous problems that weren't being dealt with . We treat the mentally ill in this country now like they don't exist.

 

[HailStout]

Why did it take so long for someone to make this joke?

also, I can hear that GIF

 

[johnson86-1]

Even if he would have been found guilty of charges related to the crash, he would have gotten out in a few years life intact. I cannot fathom being so terrified of the can to the point of suicide. You made a mistake. Go do your time. Come home and live a life of redemption. Sad story all around but I just don’t get it.

Have no clue, but it quite possibly could have been guilt. If he killed somebody being reckless and stupid, the gravity of it may have finally caught up to him. Probably a combination of that and fear of prison and despair thinking he had lost his shot at the pros. Or possibly he just had mental health issues and if it wasn't this, it would be something else. Suicide rarely seems to be tied to external problems.

 

[champdawg.sixpack]

Cue Ben Crump demanding justice ( a check)

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If Lacy was Caucasian, it doesn’t make the news.

 

[retire the banner]

Several people in that thread that should be hiding in a corner but you won't hear from them.

Their entire belief system is built on fantasy and lies. It’s pretty sad tbh

 

[paindonthurt]

Irrelevant. Where in that post did I say anything about race. I said both statements were made by people who obviously believed what they were saying from their point of view.

I said it’s relevant bc people are saying Karen lacy was treated unjustly bc of his race (see @QuaoarsKing ’s dumb post about kaepernick).

That’s false. He was treated fairly bc black witnessed what he did and they spoke up like they should more often .

 

[paindonthurt]

I’m referring to the first video posted where the cop is coercing the one witness who stated the green car did not cause it.
But yes I did see this video where this guy did say it was the green car. So there is conflicting statements and I’m sure both have valid reasons for their individual statements. My issue was the cop in the initial video coercing the witness.

Post it

 

[paindonthurt]

Definitely not more obvious. If I’m falsely accused of something I would be scared out of my mind. I hate to bring race into this, but if you were black you would understand. One of our biggest fears is being wrongfully accused of a crime because we have no faith in the justice system. I wish it was different but it’s just the way it is. That’s one reason why so many people were in an uproar when the lawyer came out with his information because that resonated with a lot of people. I’m not saying he’s for sure innocent or guilty, and I appreciate the respectful debate here but again conflating suicide with guilt is something I wish people would stop doing.

Definitely one is more obvious than the other.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

I have not followed any bit of this, and its the first week of me hearing of it. Here's my opinion....

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Ever been to prison? Might go watch some of Jeremy McCord’s stuff.

Have you?