So Steve say
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Oh dear lord, if you really think that OM's 'young lawyers' have any impact whatsoever on any aspect of their case, then you are a special kind of stupid.
It took the NCAA over 4 years to issue sanctions in the USC case, and it essentially involved 1 player (there were some issues with Dwayne Jarrett but that was handled within 2 months).
No one with an IQ above room temperature thinks this will end their program. But a lot of people (myself included) do think that they are going to get hit pretty damn hard, and if that happens, it would yield nothing but positive results for us. Just a couple off the top of my head:
1. It would be incredibly fun to watch and good for the soul.
2. It would provide us with a window of time during which we would be the most attractive SEC program in the state, which is obviously a good thing.....the duration of that advantage depends on the severity of the sanctions, but it doesn't have to be permanent to be a positive.
The only way the football landscape in MS is reshaped in the long term is if the NCAA does not come down on them hard enough to send a strong message.....because the rest of the conference will adjust their approach accordingly while we will be content to maintain the moral high ground and operate within the rules as they are written (for the most part....I know we have some boosters that know how to make things happen every now and then, but we will never buy in at an institutional level). On the whole, I do not think that our fan base would be willing to do what was necessary to compete in that type of environment.
Sand let me first say I was making a joke about young lawyers. Second, I want this investigation to be just as hard hitting on ole miss as it can be.
I understand you want this to be the thing that springboards state to control of Mississippi. I want that as well but it's not going to happen.
The real problem with your argument is that it's hypocritical. You say we are clean for the most part. You can't be clean for the most part just like you can't be a little bit pregnant. Ole miss went far and beyond the rules, there is no argument there. The truth is state needs to concentrate on what we can control not what we can't. You have no idea what the NCAA is going to do. Just like I have no idea what the NCAA is going to do. I am saying to you don't be surprised if the investigation doesn't give you the punishments that you wish for.
I understand you want this to be the thing that springboards state to control of Mississippi. I want that as well but it's not going to happen.
The real problem with your argument is that it's hypocritical. You say we are clean for the most part. You can't be clean for the most part just like you can't be a little bit pregnant. Ole miss went far and beyond the rules, there is no argument there. The truth is state needs to concentrate on what we can control not what we can't. You have no idea what the NCAA is going to do. Just like I have no idea what the NCAA is going to do. I am saying to you don't be surprised if the investigation doesn't give you the punishments that you wish for.
So in your opinion all violations are created equal?
You are either pregnant or you aren't that's true. But if I go to court to defend a speeding ticket there is going to be someone there with multiple DUI offenses. We are both in the courtroom but his offense is "dirtier" than mine.
Hey sport, there's a a board known as the Spirit that would love to have you back right now.
It baffles me that Ole Miss fans will defend their head coach and AD in the face of being repeatedly lied to, and for putting them in a situation that is going to be catastrophic for their program.
If this was happening at MSU, we would have been ready to run Mullen and Stricklin out on a rail months ago.
The entire mess that Ole Miss is in can be traced directly to Hugh Freeze's three biggest mistakes since he became head coach of Ole Miss. They might have gotten away with this wholesale cheating system a little longer with a different coach.
The three things that Freeze did that 17'd it up for them:
1.) He sent the infamous tweet asking anyone with information about cheating to step forward, which was a middle finger to all who knew that there is no way an unproven coach from Arkansas State was pulling in a top 5 class with three of the #1 players at their position to a SEC school that was in the cellar and had one SEC win in two years. Freeze's fault.
2. He immidiately held a press conference after the Tunsil-stepfather incident and said, "That boy was defending his mother." In that ill-advised instant he called the stepfather a wife-beater. The investigation was basically over at that point. Everyone knows that the only way to really get burned in dirty recruiting is if a family member talks, and talk he did. Had Freeze been a wiser, more experienced coach, he would have said what Saban or Mullen would say in that situation, "We are looking into it." and ended the press conference there. Freeze's fault.
3.) On draft night after the leaked social media info came out on Tunsil, Freeze took the Falwell/Swaggert approach to advising a protege and said, "Laramey, just go tell the truth." I am sure what he meant was to go tell the press that-- if asked-- that someone had hacked his account. Though when he was asked, "Did you accept money from a coach?" Tunsil thought back to what his coach had just told him and said, "Yes." Freeze's fault.
Yet they are mad at a rival journalist who has been correct at every turn, disproving the lies, misrepresentations, and falsehoods that have come from the head coach and AD. That is a special kind of stupid.
The hammer is coming soon, and when that day comes, they are going to be so much more pissed off and disappointed because they have been blatantly lied to. Betrayal is a rough emotion, and way worse than frustration or anger.
The entire fanbase are lemmings. Grab a box of popcorn. It's only going to get better from here.
If this was happening at MSU, we would have been ready to run Mullen and Stricklin out on a rail months ago.
The entire mess that Ole Miss is in can be traced directly to Hugh Freeze's three biggest mistakes since he became head coach of Ole Miss. They might have gotten away with this wholesale cheating system a little longer with a different coach.
The three things that Freeze did that 17'd it up for them:
1.) He sent the infamous tweet asking anyone with information about cheating to step forward, which was a middle finger to all who knew that there is no way an unproven coach from Arkansas State was pulling in a top 5 class with three of the #1 players at their position to a SEC school that was in the cellar and had one SEC win in two years. Freeze's fault.
2. He immidiately held a press conference after the Tunsil-stepfather incident and said, "That boy was defending his mother." In that ill-advised instant he called the stepfather a wife-beater. The investigation was basically over at that point. Everyone knows that the only way to really get burned in dirty recruiting is if a family member talks, and talk he did. Had Freeze been a wiser, more experienced coach, he would have said what Saban or Mullen would say in that situation, "We are looking into it." and ended the press conference there. Freeze's fault.
3.) On draft night after the leaked social media info came out on Tunsil, Freeze took the Falwell/Swaggert approach to advising a protege and said, "Laramey, just go tell the truth." I am sure what he meant was to go tell the press that-- if asked-- that someone had hacked his account. Though when he was asked, "Did you accept money from a coach?" Tunsil thought back to what his coach had just told him and said, "Yes." Freeze's fault.
Yet they are mad at a rival journalist who has been correct at every turn, disproving the lies, misrepresentations, and falsehoods that have come from the head coach and AD. That is a special kind of stupid.
The hammer is coming soon, and when that day comes, they are going to be so much more pissed off and disappointed because they have been blatantly lied to. Betrayal is a rough emotion, and way worse than frustration or anger.
The entire fanbase are lemmings. Grab a box of popcorn. It's only going to get better from here.
They know they are shady and cheat. They just aren't going to act like it. Deny, deflect, spin. A lot of the way they act is to deny us or anyone else satisfaction in their 17ed situation. Image is everything to this crew. But they know. And I assure they are fine with it, which ensures nothing will change.
They liars, cheaters and are morally bankrupt people.
They liars, cheaters and are morally bankrupt people.
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