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HighPointDawg

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I mean there are two monster videos on youtube of that exact play from last season yet we apparently deleted it from the playbook.
 

AlCoDog

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I mean, what was the most noticable thing(s) in that play?
 

HighPointDawg

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I guess I was really thinking more to the checkdown scenario where we would pump fake long and throw it to perk out of the backfield... no OL involved.
 

jcdawgman18

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He gets to get downhill on a LB instead of going head up against a DL, meaning it requires less strength, which seems to be the thing holding back guys like Day and Clausell. Also, you normally catch a guy totally off guard with the block, making it even easier. <div>
</div><div>If I'm totally off base on these things, please enlighten me. </div>
 

AlCoDog

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You're not totally off base, but timing is really the key, no? That and getting your assignment correct.Having that veteran line last year helped.
 

jcdawgman18

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I would think though that by this point we could have that installed. Honestly, it could even be more deceptive. Guys come free against our line so often this year that no one would even think to yell screen and get people to play it haha.
 

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A) our linemen have been beat up- getting them outside and running after defenders doesnt help that<div>
</div><div>B) You have to have good feet to be able to latch on or get a solid lick on a quick defender- we dont really have that</div><div>
</div><div>C) Screens are run best to the backside of the QB- which is to the left for RH'ed QB's- and we have had a constant problems at LT</div><div>
</div><div>D) Problems and lack of athleticism is also why we dont run the QB or TB Counter to the right hardly at all- the LG and LT dont move well- if you cant trust them to pull and run the counter, you damn well dont want to spend all that time working on screens and the timing it takes to do that</div>
 

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Essentially, it is a drop back and release for the lineman where they let their assignment have a free rush at the quarterback and they run down field to block. I think many miss what actually makes these things work, though. <div>
</div><div>You have to catch the defense in the right scheme. You have to have a pretty good idea when they are blitzing and where they are blitzing from. If you try to run a screen and you have 2 or 3 linebackers back in coverage or a couple of linebackers and a defensive lineman zone blitzing, you might as well pack your lunch and call it a day because it ain't gonna work. No way an average lineman is going to effectively match up on a good linebacker. </div><div>
</div><div>Another key is deception. You have to sell the defense on a pass play while they are blitzing and get them to commit to going after the quarterback. As with catching them in the blitz, the key is the space in the second level. If you have a tight end or RB release and start working the zone and there are 3 people directly above him waiting on the screen, you think that screen is gonna gain 5+ yards? Hell no... even if lineman get downfield to block, no way you can possibly account for every defensive player working the zone. At best, you get a yard or two. </div><div>
</div><div>That's the thing we have been running into this year. Teams KNOW Relf is gonna run the ball on them. Screens don't work against run defense because they are keying in on your RB, anyway. They also don't work when defenses are only needing to bring 4 lineman to get adequate pressure on the QB. Those are the issues we are running into. We have run several slip screens to the outside, but not many screens over the top of the line for that very reason. </div>
 

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Coach34 said:
A) our linemen have been beat up- getting them outside and running after defenders doesnt help that<div>
</div><div>B) You have to have good feet to be able to latch on or get a solid lick on a quick defender- we dont really have that</div><div>
</div><div>C) Screens are run best to the backside of the QB- which is to the left for RH'ed QB's- and we have had a constant problems at LT</div><div>
</div><div>D) Problems and lack of athleticism is also why we dont run the QB or TB Counter to the right hardly at all- the LG and LT dont move well- if you cant trust them to pull and run the counter, you damn well dont want to spend all that time working on screens and the timing it takes to do that</div>
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</div>E) Screens don't work much when a defense can pressure the QB with just 3 or 4 DL and no blitzing.
 
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rugbdawg

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he has played better than Carmon lately AND he doesn't get a false start once a half.
 

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</span></span></span>If I have to pick one play in this game (tough to pick because we smacked that ***?all day).? It has to be McCluster (their pride and joy) getting the 17 knocked out of him on the sideline.? TONE SETTER = your my ***** today.? Need that to happen early sat.?

Edited to add smack my ***** up
 

rugbdawg

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But just like Sherrod in his early years, Clausell sucks. Just like Brassell currently at corner for Ole Miss, Clausell sucks.
 

lawdawg02

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Screw the hangover and baja men. Just BLARE chuck smooth and let the players do the rest. Kenzaki Jones, oh how I miss thee (on the sidelines, at least).