So the SEC says...
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Explain to me then, Mr. Shaw, why our entire defense started jumping up & down with excitement when you put the stake in its final position? That is until, of course, your crew mysteriously signaled first down at which point you could see the shock & disbelief on their faces.
but that one was very bad, the ball never touched the marker pole...I have it recorded and have looked at it several times.
We got beat and it sucks but the officials definitely hindered our game, best example was the official on the last time out when #%% had to sprint to the endzone to get his attention.....he was intentionally trying to run the time out and ignoring Mullen.
We got beat and it sucks but the officials definitely hindered our game, best example was the official on the last time out when #%% had to sprint to the endzone to get his attention.....he was intentionally trying to run the time out and ignoring Mullen.
It doesn't surprise me though. I didn't expect him to admit that they missed the call. The head ref ALWAYS, I repeat ALWAYS, covers his inept crews. Have you ever heard a SEC ref admit that they made a mistake? These refs were Conference USA-quality refs. Steve is forced to cover for their missed call. Behind the scences, he will probably chew them out. Meanwhile, the offering plates will overflow tomorrow on the Plains.
Maybe my minds playing tricks on me but I could swear I remember Auburn having a measurement last weekend with the exact same measurement where they gave Auburn a first down when they were clearly short...
not really. When one object is that close to another object and slightly behind it or in front of it you can make the gap appearand disappear by slightly changing the camera angle. The stick in that shot is behind the ball, you can't stretch the chain directly over the ball. I deal with this principle evey day at work, it's somethingI have to know to do one particular proceedure I do. If you wanted to make a gap appear there you shoot from slightly behind the nose of the ball. That appears to be the angle that is from. From that shot all you can say is that he either was JUST short or he JUST made it. A shot from above would be needed to say 100% for sure.
EDIT TO SAY: It sure looks short, but you can't really say from that angle. The "touching" explanation is pure BS. If they did that the ball was rolled over the chain. You can't stretch the chain directly over the ball.
EDIT TO SAY: It sure looks short, but you can't really say from that angle. The "touching" explanation is pure BS. If they did that the ball was rolled over the chain. You can't stretch the chain directly over the ball.
wouldn't that mean that the chain link is parallel somehow to the ball, thus defying the laws of physics?
I'm not questioning your autohority- I'm sure you know way more than I do about this type of stuff- but I'm not buying that in this age of HD TV where they attempt to make things as real as possible that the camera is somehow making it look shorter than it actually was. And if it did, you would think that the announcers would mention that to the audience.
I'm not questioning your autohority- I'm sure you know way more than I do about this type of stuff- but I'm not buying that in this age of HD TV where they attempt to make things as real as possible that the camera is somehow making it look shorter than it actually was. And if it did, you would think that the announcers would mention that to the audience.
1) The obvious missed FD by Auburn
2) The obvious TD by Ballard in the air
3) The called back INT by Mitchell...yes it was facemask..but I guess you can do what you want since it was a penalty on the D
4) The ref standing back turned to Mullen and letting time run off
I'm sure there's more
2) The obvious TD by Ballard in the air
3) The called back INT by Mitchell...yes it was facemask..but I guess you can do what you want since it was a penalty on the D
4) The ref standing back turned to Mullen and letting time run off
I'm sure there's more
and your index finger of your other hand. The remote is the ball and your finger is the stick. Hold your fingerthe width of a football behind the remote. Make sure the nose of the remote is just overlaping the edge of your finger when you look at it at 90 degrees. Then vary your angle of view. You can do the opposite too, make the remote just short of the finger. Notice how the gap appears and dissapears. This also applies to the refs view. What HE sees depends on his angle as well. I actually saw some NFL refs break out a card to check one time. Perhaps these should have.
came on our final drive.It was a 2nd down play. I thought it was clear that we had a first down or at least close enough for a measurement. But the officials didn't give us the first down or stop the clock for a measurement. The clock just continued to run. We picked up the first down on the next play, but it cost us about 10 seconds.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">1) The obvious missed FD by Auburn</span>.
I'm not saying it was a first down, but I don't think it was all that obvious, either. Possible missed call.
<br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">2) The obvious TD by Ballard in the air</span>
They changed the rule this year. Since Ballard did not touch the pylon, or the ground in the endzone, the refs properly placed the ball where it crossed the out of bounds line.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">3) The called back INT by Mitchell...yes it was facemask..but I guess you can do what you want since it was a penalty on the D</span>
Sure looked like a facemask to me, but that just would have mean offsetting penalties and replay the down. It would have saved us 5 yards, but didn't Auburn wind up kicking the FG anyway? Maybe I have my possessions confused.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">4) The ref standing back turned to Mullen and letting time run off</span>
That sucked.....but they gave us the time back.
I'm not saying it was a first down, but I don't think it was all that obvious, either. Possible missed call.
<br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">2) The obvious TD by Ballard in the air</span>
They changed the rule this year. Since Ballard did not touch the pylon, or the ground in the endzone, the refs properly placed the ball where it crossed the out of bounds line.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">3) The called back INT by Mitchell...yes it was facemask..but I guess you can do what you want since it was a penalty on the D</span>
Sure looked like a facemask to me, but that just would have mean offsetting penalties and replay the down. It would have saved us 5 yards, but didn't Auburn wind up kicking the FG anyway? Maybe I have my possessions confused.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">4) The ref standing back turned to Mullen and letting time run off</span>
That sucked.....but they gave us the time back.
So, let me get this right... Wouldn't the stake have been FARTHER from the ball at it's "final position" not closer??? If they stretch the chain fully, then what Shaw said makes absolutely no sense. More SEC CYA ******** from a mediocre officiating crew. It's SEC football season now.
I would love to see that same decision go against Bama. Steve Shaw would drive to Tuscaloosa and personally rub aloe vera on Saban's balls to try and heal the pain.
17 it! Let's go to the Pac 12! ha!
I would love to see that same decision go against Bama. Steve Shaw would drive to Tuscaloosa and personally rub aloe vera on Saban's balls to try and heal the pain.
17 it! Let's go to the Pac 12! ha!
The refs can "hustle it up" when they want to, but in that case, hell yeah, they could have easily called for a measurement. It looked like a first down, but it was easily worth stopping play. ****, I'm sitting there hollaring, but the play clock is ticking. Sux.
The SEC office quickly defended the Conference USA refs when they incorrectly said that Tyson Lee passed the ball beyond the line of scrimmage (despite video evidence that the ball was 10 yards down field when he crossed the line). The SEC is wrong again, but they are consistent.
need to be on the 20 yard line unless the chain was about five feet from the ball.......and of course neither occurred.
I was about to go into a pure rage during that episode, I could prob list 15 questionable to undeniable ref screw ups that all went in Auburn's favor. Did anyone notice our player getting BLASTED after the whistle had blown on one of the kickoffs? At first, it looked like it was also a block in the back, but upon replay I noticed that it was a legal hit by the slimmest of margins IF the damn play had not already been blown dead. There was no way that the refs didn't see it, it was close to where the tackle was made but in wide open view for all to see. I noticed a ref running up from around the 20 to the 35(where the foul was commited) a few seconds after the collision. Unless he had a mini stroke on the jog back to the area of the spot after the kick, he saw it. Several things were "seen", My bllod pressure is still rising, I just need to leave the subject of theofficiating alone for a while. #25 pushing Carmon while he was getting rolled up from behind actually caused the injury to be more severe, watch the replay, our ball carrier was on the ground, the play is dead. Then #25 from Auburn comes up and pushes him after the whistle which every ref had to have noticed, it is hard to spot the ball if you are not watching the runner and the runner was right behind his back legs.