So thinking about the Ben Davis start tonight.

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If it goes right & we win, obviously we’re in great shape pitching going forward. But if it goes wrong & we lose, I don’t think the downside is awful. Pitch McPherson or Sullivan vs Bethune and we still need to take 3 straight from Northeastern & FSU, but we’re actually in better shape pitching with all 3 of our weekend starters still available.
 

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If it goes right & we win, obviously we’re in great shape pitching going forward. But if it goes wrong & we lose, I don’t think the downside is awful. Pitch McPherson or Sullivan vs Bethune and we still need to take 3 straight from Northeastern & FSU, but we’re actually in better shape pitching with all 3 of our weekend starters still available.

I agree. Pitching should be in good shape after game one anyway, and worst case is we're throwing our 1/2 against someone else's 3/4 after beating Bethune Cookman tomorrow. And if we can't beat BC with a non-weekend starter we don't deserve to be there.

Of course I may feel differently tonight when were down 7-0 in the fourth and Northeastern's crafty southpaw who throws 86 is carving us up.
 

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If it goes right & we win, obviously we’re in great shape pitching going forward. But if it goes wrong & we lose, I don’t think the downside is awful. Pitch McPherson or Sullivan vs Bethune and we still need to take 3 straight from Northeastern & FSU, but we’re actually in better shape pitching with all 3 of our weekend starters still available.
No time to second guess or show nerves now. The plan is set.
 
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As long as we have the guts to start Sullivan against BC in a loser's bracket game tomorrow, agreed.
This. It'll aggravate the hell out of us if we throw Davis today, somehow lose, then panic and throw Pico at Bethune Cookman and waste him in what should be a blowout win no matter what.
 
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This. It'll aggravate the hell out of us if we throw Davis today, somehow lose, then panic and throw Pico at Bethune Cookman and waste him in what should be a blowout win no matter what.
Yep, if it doesn't go according to plan, everyone will second guess the shitt outta JP. But if it works and we have our Friday night starter in a winners bracket game... it's a GREAT call.
 

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This. It'll aggravate the hell out of us if we throw Davis today, somehow lose, then panic and throw Pico at Bethune Cookman and waste him in what should be a blowout win no matter what.

Absolutely. I gotta believe Parker's got a set plan. Win and play FSU and you go to the weekend rotation. Lose and play BC and you whole staff minus the weekend starters and get the win with your weekend rotation ready for 3 more games.

BC hasn't given up less than 6 runs to anybody inside the RPI Top 150 all year. We should put up 10+ if we're awake.
 

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This is Lane Kiffin going for it on 4th & 5 at the opponents 18 yard line on the first drive of the game against LSU. He is a genius if he makes & a moron if he doesn't.

I disagree. Whether it works or not, it is still the right decision. It is the best option to win the regional not just one game. Now, whether, we can pull it off is another question.
 

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If it goes right & we win, obviously we’re in great shape pitching going forward. But if it goes wrong & we lose, I don’t think the downside is awful. Pitch McPherson or Sullivan vs Bethune and we still need to take 3 straight from Northeastern & FSU, but we’re actually in better shape pitching with all 3 of our weekend starters still available.
Yeah, I can't figure out how to think about it. On one hand, winning Gm 1 with Davis would be massive, but then again... doing everything you can to win the first two games is also a massive advantage in a regional, and I guess I just still don't get Parker's thought process with not going with one of your top 2 or even 3 guys against a 2 seed.

In a 1 vs 4 situation, I understand it a lot more, but this seems like a bet it all on black spin of the roulette wheel
 
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Yeah, I can't figure out how to think about it. On one hand, winning Gm 1 with Davis would be massive, but then again... doing everything you can to win the first two games is also a massive advantage in a regional, and I guess I just still don't get Parker's thought process with not going with one of your top 2 or even 3 guys against a 2 seed.

In a 1 vs 4 situation, I understand it a lot more, but this seems like a bet it all on black spin of the roulette wheel
In this regional, you have to win best 2 out of 3 vs Florida State. It’s that simple. Either FSU or MSU will win this regional. So what’s the best way to win 2 of 3 from FSU is the way you need to approach this.
 

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We lost that home regional to North Carolina because we threw our ace against a bad Middle Tennessee team that any of our midweek guys could have beaten. If we would have had a 2 seed from the ACC or Big 12, you probably have to throw Pico, but something tells me Northeastern doesn't have a lot of bite and we roll.
 

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Its just hard to judge a team like Northeastern because you have almost no evidence of how they will do against tourney caliber teams since they really only played one and that was at home and that team was a bottom tier at large.

They've won a lot of games against bad teams. We'll know soon enough how they handle much better talent.
 

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Its just hard to judge a team like Northeastern because you have almost no evidence of how they will do against tourney caliber teams since they really only played one and that was at home and that team was a bottom tier at large.

They've won a lot of games against bad teams. We'll know soon enough how they handle much better talent.
I just started to listen to today's Out of Left Field, and Charlie is outlining the stats very well. He confirmed what I had guessed earlier - they have a good record but haven't seen any 94+ two-seamers with sink. Like, I think he said literally they have seen 2 (!) of those pitches all season. That's a crazy stat.

Now he's saying they hit a lot worse down in the zone, which is what Davis does. After hearing all this, it makes a lot of sense.
 

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In this regional, you have to win best 2 out of 3 vs Florida State. It’s that simple. Either FSU or MSU will win this regional. So what’s the best way to win 2 of 3 from FSU is the way you need to approach this.
Right, but that quickly turns into needing 4 out of 4 against FSU, NE, and Bethune if we lose tonight. In that scenario, I get that we'd then have our top arms left to try to get us through it, but if you believe that your staff is capable of all of that, why wouldn't you be confident in one of those guys simply beating FSU tomorrow after tossing a more proven arm tonight?

In this scenario, I feel like Parker is either extremely unimpressed with Northeastern or else he's throwing a hail mary because he thinks it's our only shot
 
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Right, but that quickly turns into needing 4 out of 4 against FSU, NE, and Bethune if we lose tonight. In that scenario, I get that we'd then have our top arms left to try to get us through it, but if you believe that your staff is capable of all of that, why wouldn't you be confident in one of those guys simply beating FSU tomorrow after tossing a more proven arm tonight?

In this scenario, I feel like Parker is either extremely unimpressed with Northeastern or else he's throwing a hail mary because he thinks it's our only shot
Bethune is a gimme win without wasting any top line pitching, so now it’s 3-0 vs NE with their #3 starter and FSU twice. If you can’t beat NE #3 starter with your #3, you weren’t going any further no matter how you pitch it.
 

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That’s a great way to finish 2nd in the regional. Worked out great for Polk in 2004(?).
I guess we lose tonight we will still have our three guys. I think we win tonight regardless. Our bats are going to light them up.
 
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I guess we lose tonight we will still have our three guys. I think we win tonight regardless. Our bats are going to light them up.
I hope so. Soft throwing lefty has me a bit concerned. But even if we lose, we’re in good shape for pitching if we don’t panic & throw a weekend starter vs Bethune Cookman.
 
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