So when does Mullen get his raise to 4.0 Million?
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As soon as he shows we can consistently make State a contender. He had us at #1 for several weeks this season, yet coached poorly against Alabama and basically not at all against UM with a shot at the playoffs at stake. Awesome year for the most part, well deserving of a raise, then totally AWOL in the biggest game of his tenure at State. Freeze has owned Mullen both times in Oxford. Does Dan get 4 million just because Ole Miss overpaid Freeze? We will see... My guess is a bump to 3.5 million and hopefully raises for deserving assistant coaches and funds to pursue a legit special teams coach.
If he doesn't get a raise this year, he should never get one. Guy coached us to #1 in the nation for 5 straight weeks.
Make it heavy on the incentives. Hell, I'd put in there a $100,000 bonus for Dan and a $10k bonus for each assistant if they win the Egg Bowl.
THIS all day long
Incentivize the contract heavily. Bump to the 3.5 million range with the ability to go to 4.5+ depending on results. To bump him from 3.0 million to 4.0 million just because Freeze and his agent took Ole Miss to the cleaners is reactionary and irresponsible. The latest numbers I saw show that Dan Mullen is getting 3.0 million this year. One source said 3.2, but several have said 3.0 million. Research shows that 3.5 million is more than Art Briles, Mark Richt, and Gary Pinkel are getting paid, coaches with arguably better resumes and achievements. So, in light of an unexplainable and inexcusable coaching performance in this year's battle for The Golden Egg (where we laid rotten eggs with a trip to the playoffs in the balance), I feel that 3.5 to maybe slightly higher is spot on, fair, and responsible. Incentivizing the contract so that we pay for performance is the way to go.
Incentivize the contract heavily. Bump to the 3.5 million range with the ability to go to 4.5+ depending on results. To bump him from 3.0 million to 4.0 million just because Freeze and his agent took Ole Miss to the cleaners is reactionary and irresponsible. The latest numbers I saw show that Dan Mullen is getting 3.0 million this year. One source said 3.2, but several have said 3.0 million. Research shows that 3.5 million is more than Art Briles, Mark Richt, and Gary Pinkel are getting paid, coaches with arguably better resumes and achievements. So, in light of an unexplainable and inexcusable coaching performance in this year's battle for The Golden Egg (where we laid rotten eggs with a trip to the playoffs in the balance), I feel that 3.5 to maybe slightly higher is spot on, fair, and responsible. Incentivizing the contract so that we pay for performance is the way to go.
Seems like he's a top 10 coach right now, he needs a top 15-20 salary with incentives to get him into the top 10 to top 5, depending on how we do.
He's around what, 23rd right now? Would moving him up to the 15 range base be a huge jump?
Help me understand what Briles or Pinkel has done better than Mullen (and really Richt for that matter) other than play in a worse conference or playing in the east?
Briles is currently making $4.2M and is best known for having RG3 and finishing #13 in the country in a really bad conference.
Pinkel has taken advantage of playing in a really weak east. He finished #5 last year. Is getting $3.1M plus tons of incentives that is certainly going to increase to $4M range.
Richt is getting $3.5M plus incentives that draw it up to over $4.5M. And he is easily one of the least achieving coaches in America right now with what he has.
Damn, you people are incredible. Mullen is making about $3.2M right now plus incentives that would get him to about $4M if he hit them all. That places him about 10th or 11th in the damn league. And he is doing it at freaking MSU.
Briles is currently making $4.2M and is best known for having RG3 and finishing #13 in the country in a really bad conference.
Pinkel has taken advantage of playing in a really weak east. He finished #5 last year. Is getting $3.1M plus tons of incentives that is certainly going to increase to $4M range.
Richt is getting $3.5M plus incentives that draw it up to over $4.5M. And he is easily one of the least achieving coaches in America right now with what he has.
Damn, you people are incredible. Mullen is making about $3.2M right now plus incentives that would get him to about $4M if he hit them all. That places him about 10th or 11th in the damn league. And he is doing it at freaking MSU.
The answers to your questions are yes. If that is the going rate, and we want to be a contender, then you have to pay like a contender. If you act like a pretender and wait until someone makes you a contender, then you will never retain coaches.
Neither Briles nor Pinkel has done anything better than Mullen. But even with the SEC money, I'm not sure our approach needs to be paying our HC more than the highest paid coach with a comparable resume. I'd much rather have Mullen than Sumlin, but I don't think we want to offer Mullen $5M per year for 6 years with a large buyout (which I think is what Sumlin got?).
We obviously need Mullen's pay to be competitive, and we need incentives to reward him when he really achieves like this year. I don't know if that requires a $4M base or not, but I would think it certainly requires that he have the ability to make up into the mid $4M range if he hits some of his bigger incentives (like SEC CG or top 6 bowl appearance).
Not sure how accurate these numbers are, but here: http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CFBCoachesSalaries.htm
He's tied at the 25th highest salary with 3.2. 3.75 would move him to 15th.
He's tied at the 25th highest salary with 3.2. 3.75 would move him to 15th.
After this season's contracts get done, $4M will put him in the middle of the SEC. That's where we need to be to keep things where we want them. This keeps him happy and keeps other schools away. I have no problem with incentives on top of that but we definitely need to get him in the middle to top. Hell, there are some bad coaches getting paid what he is getting right now.
Mullen has to get $4 million or it looks like we are not a competitive team in the SEC.
I don't like the salary war in the SEC with head coaches getting paid unreasonable amounts.
But we have got to show we are not a low end team in the SEC.
I don't like the salary war in the SEC with head coaches getting paid unreasonable amounts.
But we have got to show we are not a low end team in the SEC.
Mullen needs to be put on the enticement plan. He doesn't get raises but instead gets bonuses for each SEC team he beats plus a rankings related bonus and of course a bowl game bonus. 1,000,000 bonus for getting to the play-offs. What he and his coaching staff did in Oxford is inexcusable. I hope the Bulldog Club and Stricklin hold him accountable.
Bump Dan up to whatever it is where we can add $500k+ for our assistants. Is the Deshea experiment over?
I think Dan deserves to be paid at least the same as OM pays Freeze. If they can afford $4.5 million, then we can too. Dan has us in the Top Ten and looking at a major bowl, etc.
he should get that when he goes back in time a month and fixes his 17n game plan for Bama and now (!!!!!) Tsun.
a $4M man doesn't do that carp.
a $4M man doesn't do that carp.
I absolutely agree. Maybe even the paltry sum of $100K more than Freeze. Athletic contributions are supposedly up 35% this year, and as far as I know we don't have any further stadium expansions coming up (nor needed right now ... except remodeling the East side lower area under the grandstands).
Somebody please explain who were trying to uphold an image toward. Ive heard a few folks say that we need to give off an image of not being this or that. But to who? Other fans? A future coach? Recruits? Is coaching salary that important in regards to image? And does dan really care if hes making 3.2m or 3.8 or 4m? Im sure theres lots of folks that do, but i wouldnt care. Hell id rather use $ offered to me to pay top notch assistant to ensure success of the program, in turn making my job more enjoyable and easier and less stressful, and sustaining long-term seniority/job tenure. But thats just me. Maybe mullen views things similarly?