So who wins 8A?
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I need to see the draws and brackets first. I also want to see which teams make 7A and which make 8A. And I also want to hear about the LWE/BB results;....But I like the initial 5 favorites MS4 listed.
It will be interesting to see Marist first round game. The past several years the Redhawks have seemed to either lose in the first round after a great regular season or make an awesome semi or final run. It will be interesting to see who they draw and how they do.
LWE, Loyola, MS, and Marist are the top four. MS, though, is the team that always finds a way in the playoffs. Last year they had three losses but made the tweaks (as the season progressed) to put them over the top. They are better this year, so my $ is on them. LWE is probably the best , but the best team doesn't always win.
Jarvis was a beast last year. When they made the switch to him playing both ways and getting in on the Defense side - that was a game changer. Not sure they have that type of guy this year....
Gotta see the brackets. Right now the favorite has to be East. But I like Marist, they certainly pass the eye test. As always the matchups will be key.
Because they should only play in the championship or it's a conspiracy
Which already happened once btw.
Because they should only play in the championship or it's a conspiracy
Which already happened once btw.
I don't believe in a conspiracy, but I think the IHSA Board only has two private school principals and they elect the IHSA directors. As we know, the directors rule the roost and also understand the direction the public school principals, who put them in place, prefer. This is a reality and common sense. Getting the private big dogs to play each other early will happen. LA will probably play Glenbrook South or some other public in the first round then Marist. Third round will be either LWE , Homewood F, or MS. I may be wrong, but highly doubt it. Either way, its all good because LA will be happy to get in and compete. " The little engine that could. "
This is absurd. How about the year the IHSA did that weird North/South split and a 6-3 MC got a 1st Rd "away" game against Simeon at Gately? You ever hear of confirmation bias?
I do believe in conspiracy but if they play 1-32 and don't play with the brackets than so be it if the privates all play each other. It's only if they play games with the scheduling that makes people despise the IHSA.
The little engine that could? LA is huge, well coached and very talented and.....
How can they play with the brackets when seeding 1-32? The formula is set before the season start. What changes have been made to brackets seeded 1-32?
Does LA get an asterisk if they win 8A since they couldn't beat the 5A champ
I use the little engine that could only in the context of whomever they play from the big 5, LWE, Marist, Barrington, MS and possibly HF, LA will not be favored to win the game. They will be the underdog. In terms of size, Marist 1700, LA 2150, LWE 2200, MS 2600, HF 2900 and Barrington at a whopping 3100. Yes LA is big compared to Marist, but side by side with the publics, well, I'll let you decide.
Does LA get an asterisk if they win 8A since they couldn't beat the 5A champ
I have been saying all along that I will not take anything away from Phillips. They deserved that victory. You need to know though that LA treats the two preseason games every year as prep games for the real season.
I've seen both teams this year & LA will beat Marist by 2 TD's no matter what round they play them. Was not overly impressed by the Redhawks. Let's not forget that our soon to be 2-7 Crusaders were tied at 14 with them in the 4th quarter at Marist before we imploded with mistakes.
LWE has to be the favorite. Griffins have only let up more than two scores once all season (MS-28). 75 points allowed in 8 games.
Ramblers have only let up 78 points. LA vs LWE would be a blood bath. Neither team rely's on a future division 1 star to carry them. Two very balanced, great programs.
Maine South is next in line. They have the play-off mojo to make a run and knock off anyone.
Marist doesn't have it this year. Lack star-power and don't have a high-powered offense. Would likely lose big to any of the three above.
Ramblers have only let up 78 points. LA vs LWE would be a blood bath. Neither team rely's on a future division 1 star to carry them. Two very balanced, great programs.
Maine South is next in line. They have the play-off mojo to make a run and knock off anyone.
Marist doesn't have it this year. Lack star-power and don't have a high-powered offense. Would likely lose big to any of the three above.
The brackets weren't always 1-32. Some years 1-16 North and South. Some years they went quads 1-8. That's when they played games. I forget the term they used but they had some bs reason and they had a term for it. They never announced how the brackets were going to be until after they saw who was in. That's were the mistrust came from.
But if they schedule 1-32 and the privates all play each other than so be it. Even public schools may have to play each other a second time in a matter of a few weeks.
But even with 1-32 it's not perfect. We can see the two best teams public or private play each other in the quarters because play off points are not equal. Every year we see CPS teams with great records get mauled by 5-4 teams. But if they stay with 1-32 than it's not perfect but at least it's an attempt to keep bias out of it.
Yeah right. How many times have DVC teams been pitted against each other in the playoffs? Often in multiple rounds. You think there is a DVC conspiracy too? Perhaps it is that the more teams there are from a certain conference increases the likelihood of them playing one another?
Please don't offend anyone. Can't pull anyone's leg anymore. I was going to comment about the cake eaters comment that would be insensitive on my part.
Weinstein is going to the Clinton addiction center. I'm looking for a a sarcasm addiction center with an aarp dscount.
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Point being there was never a conspiracy only strong imaginations. People complaining of the conspiracy against privates refuse to address the MC situation I described earlier. They refuse to acknowledge the times The Brook lost to Sandburg during the season then the IHSA conspired to get us out by playing them again Rd 1. Or the conspiracy to eliminate us by having us play DGS in the 2nd or 3rd Rd. Or the "holding" call against PC to set up the PC/MC rematch for the championship.
The notion is looney and nothing more than seeing what you want to see.
The notion is looney and nothing more than seeing what you want to see.
While I agree that Loyola may beat Marist no matter what round, Marist is a totally different team then they were week 1 versus Crusaders. Since that Rice game Marist has outscored opponents on average score of 47-14 since that game with a 42-0 win over previously undefeated Nazareth who is a 6A contender. May not have played toughest schedule but I am telling you Red hawks are good.
Totally agree with your analysis of Marist. They have grown exponentially since Game 1. They are not the same team and should be favored against LA. They are strong on the D line and the Ramblers will need to find a way to handle those beasts should they play one another.
I would improve as well if I was going against Bartlett, East Aurora, etc etc. in Upstate 8 instead of Napervile North, Naperville Central, Etc etc in DVC or Neuqua and WV when they were in the Upstate - But to their credit - they scheduling some good non conference matchups to compensate.
I think they will be a middle seed around 17 to 24 depending on if they go 7-2 or 6-3.
For a team you don't consider a rival you seem to spend an awful lot of your posts bashing them.
Best move they ever made was going to the Upstate 8. That reset button allowed them to build their program to a competitive level. That said the S Elgin game took some of that 2016 luster off.
Totally agree. They are now a solid program with solid participation numbers, a good infrastructure, etc etc. when that happens though - you need to be looking for "what's next" for your program (in my opinion anyways).
Perpetually staying the in remains of the Upstate will never prepare them for any real run in the playoffs from a football perspective and also in other sports and one must think of the lower levels - fresh, sopj, JV etc).
I think that's one of the reasons NV, WV, MV left Upstate and went to DVC when they were invited. I think they would have stayed in Upstate though, if they knew the tablecloth would be pulled before the main dish was served!
I didn’t know that giving an opinion on the strength of 2 teams I’ve seen play was bashing. If they meet & my prediction comes true I’ll expect your apology.