So...who's going to admit

[GTAdawg]

that regardless of the endless amount of debate on our lineup, defensive placements, and b****** philosophies our baseball team just isn't a top 20 team and our non conference schedule was basically a pillow fight.

Admission is the first step towards acceptance of the truth.

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

Uh huh. UCA, PU, and Samford (all of who will most likely make a regional) was just one big pillow fight.***

I will say that I don't think we're a top 20 team...RIGHT NOW. We're THE MOST talented team in the SEC (debatable, I know), so the potential is definitely there.

 

[Will James]

We're THE MOST talented team in the SEC (debatable, I know), so the potential is definitely there.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

Ok. Argue with me. What part of our team is out-talented BY FAR by another team?

 

[msstate7]

Well not having a batter behind renfroe cost him an at bat in the 9th. That's a talent issue

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

Disagree. Rea or Detz could do the job. They just haven't been executing. Just like everyone else on the team (except for Renfroe).

 

[msstate7]

If someone would step it up behind renfroe or guys would start getting on in front of renfroe, we'd stop having all these what went wrong discussions.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Well, Samford is 15-11, 5-5 in their own conference, and Portland is 10-16 overall. So you're argument seems to be lacking. UCA is pretty damn good though.

ETA: If you meant Purdue, well they are a stunning 7-14 on the season.

Uh huh. UCA, PU, and Samford (all of who will most likely make a regional) was just one big pillow fight.***

I will say that I don't think we're a top 20 team...RIGHT NOW. We're THE MOST talented team in the SEC (debatable, I know), so the potential is definitely there.

 

[RougeDawg]

Rea's swing makes him easy to pitch to...

Disagree. Rea or Detz could do the job. They just haven't been executing. Just like everyone else on the team (except for Renfroe).

he has such a huge looping swing, you throw him off-speed away and then bust him inside after you've softened him up. His swing is the type of swing that ball and bat have the shortest distance for change of contact. As opposed to a hitter that has a short swing that remains flat and straignt through the hitting zone.

Short and flat through hitting zone maximizes chance that ball and bat make contact. Rae and most of our hitters have yet to figure that out. Maybe of our coaches should ensure that memo gets out at some point in their 4 year careers. Just a thought.

 

[GTAdawg]

Your defense is laughable. Obviously you're having trouble with the acceptance portion.

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

Look, my arguement is simply this: when playing at a high, consistent level, there is not another team in the SEC that outtalents us. Not one.

 

[msstate7]

I'd take Nola and eades over our two best starters. I'd take wahl and mayers over our two best starters. Who are our best two starters BTW?

 

[Steakonastick]

Rea is Adam Dunn without the power. That is what a scout said the lsu weekend. He will never hit over .260 or hit double digit homeruns.

detz is a good player but he is not a middle of the lineup guy. He's a obp type of player.

I'd say we are middle of the road talent wise. We are lacking big time at 1b, DH, and LF.

 

[engie]

that regardless of the endless amount of debate on our lineup, defensive placements, and b****** philosophies our baseball team just isn't a top 20 team and our non conference schedule was basically a pillow fight.

Admission is the first step towards acceptance of the truth.

Not I.

This is still a team with endless potential. Going 6-7 in the last 13 against 12 teams that are/have been in the top 25 has not changed what I think we are or can be. Let's face the facts -- we've got a meat grinder of a schedule from Central Arky on -- and we've had a chance to win almost every game. Yes, I'm f'n pissed about the results overall -- just like everyone else. But it's baseball. We get to play 2 more against a great team this weekend on the road, and I still think we can beat them...

Disappointed? Sure. Giving up? Not even close. A couple small adjustments -- a few pitchers stepping up -- and this team can and will go on a run...

Worth noting that the SEC teams that have beaten us are now 5-2, 5-2, 6-1 in conference right now. Arky and LSU are 2 of the top 5 teams in the country(despite Ark's early struggles). Central Ark would be top 20 right now without one bad weekend. UK continues winning at a very high level. ETC...

RPI now sits at #17 -- 5th in the SEC. Dropped 4 spots with that road loss -- and still on schedule to finish right around RPI #12(4th in SEC) -- which the predictor requires we go 13-10 in the SEC the rest of the way(15-15 overall) and 2-2 in midweeks. Anything better than that will be gravy.

At the end of this weekend just last year, we were 3-6 in the SEC, 18-11 overall -- with an RPI of 49. Just for comparison purposes(of course the expectation level for this team is much, MUCH higher)...

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Yes, it sounds 'better' when you say we've only lost to top 25 teams but if we want to be where we think we should be we have to beat those 17in teams. I haven't have up on the coach or team by a long shot but its getting really 17in old seeing the same **** over and over.

 

[chew1095]

Still on schedule to finish 4th in the SEC in RPI? Is that what you are saying?

At what point do actual wins matter more than RPI? This is a serious question, because while yes, we have played LSU, UK and are playing Ark right now, we are on the verge of being in last place in the SECW.

 

[Dawg1976]

Mirror image to the football season, except we are not getting beat as bad.

 

[skb124]

We are not as good as everyone was hyping us up to be, but we also are nowhere near as bad as some on here are making us out to be. We are a good team. 4 of our 5 SEC losses have come by 1 run against top 11 teams. If we were as good as we had thought we were, we would have won some of those so far. However, if we werent a good team, we would not be competing in the ninth inning of these games.

 

[engie]

Still on schedule to finish 4th in the SEC in RPI? Is that what you are saying?

At what point do actual wins matter more than RPI? This is a serious question, because while yes, we have played LSU, UK and are playing Ark right now, we are on the verge of being in last place in the SECW.

If we win 10 -- it won't matter. If we win 15 with the schedule, we will be in the hosting conversation. Win 16 and we are almost locks to host. Particularly if we take 3 of the final 4 OOC or perhaps even all 4...

 

[engie]

Mirror image to the football season, except we are not getting beat as bad.

Ridiculous...

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

I'd take Nola and eades over our two best starters. I'd take wahl and mayers over our two best starters. Who are our best two starters BTW?

Your 17in tellin me that Lindgren and Woodruff, when playing at a consistent high level like they should be, aren't better than Nola and Eades? A big 17 you to you sir. You're a total ******** if you think that.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Haha he's a ******** for having an opinion? You are stating the way you think things should be. You can't deal in what ifs. Woodruff isn't playing at a high level, so no, you can't say that he is better than Nola or Eades.

 

[GOOD_DAWG2.0]

Haha he's a ******** for having an opinion? You are stating the way you think things should be. You can't deal in what ifs. Woodruff isn't playing at a high level, so no, you can't say that he is better than Nola or Eades.

Maybe you'd like to reread the post that he originally responded to. When I posed this:

Look, my arguement is simply this: WHEN PLAYING AT A HIGH, CONSISTENT LEVEL there is not another team in the SEC that outtalents us. Not one.

 

[msstate7]

I'd rather have them in reality. After all that's where games are decided not in fantasy land

 

[chew1095]

We are in 6th place in our own division and you believe we are the most talented team in the conference? Thanks John. Now, try to get your guys to remove their heads from their assess long enough to close someone out.

 

[patdog]

Not sure we're not a top 20 team, but we're in the 15-20 range. Which is about where I expcted us to be from the beginning. We're playing a killer schedule right now and having some bad luck (helped by some bad coaching decisions), but we're still a pretty good team. We'll turn it around, but right now we're looking more like a #2 seed than a non-national seed regional host.

 

[engie]

Not sure we're not a top 20 team, but we're in the 15-20 range. Which is about where I expcted us to be from the beginning. We're playing a killer schedule right now and having some bad luck (helped by some bad coaching decisions), but we're still a pretty good team. We'll turn it around, but right now we're looking more like a #2 seed than a non-national seed regional host.

Yep -- agree with this...

Should be noted that at the same point last year, it was a real question whether we would make the SEC tournament and regionals...

This is what we've got to do going forward(to host)...
-win 1 of remaining 2 against Arky
-win midweek @ South Alabama(RPI #14)
-win 2 of 3 from struggling Florida at home
-win Governor's Cup
-win 2 of 3 @ aTm
-win 2 of 3 or sweep pretty bad Auburn team @ home
-beat Memphis at AutoZone
-win 1 of 3 @ Vandy
-win 2 of 3 or sweep against a pretty bad Alabama @ home
-win 2 of 3 @ Ole Miss(Cohen has beat Bianco in 7 of last 8 series -- several of which he was a major underdog and on the road)
-beat Oral Roberts
-win 2 of 3 against South Carolina guarantees a host spot. 1 of 3 gives us a "pretty good" chance, especially if we sweep the midweeks like I've got here(RPI projections still have us taking 2 of 4)...

At this point, I'm really not willing to give the SEC tourney much credence toward hosting...but the RPI boost possibilities there COULD make a difference with a couple of wins...

Now, looking at it as taking 2 of 3 or dropping 2 of 3, this seems a bit excessive to win 6 of the final 7 series. Sweep 2 teams though and we are in the game...and can then go 4-3 in the final 7 series as long as we don't get swept ourselves...

 

[Will James]

Sweeping the midweeks going forward, with no credible midweek starter left, will be a very difficult task.