So why would Nix turn down UF to stay at OM?

[Irondawg]

Is it the Mississippi ties? Does he feel he's next in line to be HC at OM and feels Nutt won't stay much longer?

Or was he maybe never actually offered the job? I also state that b/c for years several MSU people have sworn he was never offered the MSU DC job when he "turned it down" a few years back.

Just curious.

 

[Irondawg]

Is it the Mississippi ties? Does he feel he's next in line to be HC at OM and feels Nutt won't stay much longer?

Or was he maybe never actually offered the job? I also state that b/c for years several MSU people have sworn he was never offered the MSU DC job when he "turned it down" a few years back.

Just curious.

 

[graddawg]

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Or was he maybe never actually offered the job?</span> I also state that b/c for years several MSU people have sworn he was never offered the MSU DC job when he "turned it down" a few years back.

This is the theory being thrown around by the Florida guys in my office. I'm not sure I believe that since their sense of entitlement is off the charts at this point.

 

[Shmuley]

I'm sure he appreciates Florida letting him bow out.

 

[Lion O]

He'll get a little raise.

Probably has a little to do with his brother being on staff as well. I think he also just bought a house recently.

Word was he was offered (maybe not a true offer) and he counter offered UF. If that's true, they probably just decided to move on after the counter offer.

 

[GloryDawg]

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">That would be a lateral move just asks you local Ole Miss Fan.</p>

 

[ckDOG]

I'd stay at OM as well assuming the discrepancy in pay wasn't enormous. He has more wiggle room at OM to have a crappy season here an there. Plus, Nutt may either a) leave or b) do something stupid and be forced out. Nix would be low hanging fruit during the next coaching search.

There could be more upside to being a DC at Florida, but there is more risk involved as well. One ****** season and you could be out...

 

[dawgstudent]

is that true? It might been pure BS.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Next question.

ETA: Seriously, I would guess some of it might have to do with the freedom he has at Ole Miss. I don't know what the situation would be like at UF, but I know that he definitely has free reign over the defense with no interference from Nutt. Sometimes that can be more important than money. That's also why when Nutt says in the postgame press conference that he didn't know who Relf was, it's probably true. He probably didn't even watch tape of MSU's offense. He literally puts the defense entirely in Nix's hands, and he stays out of the way. That's not always the case.

 

[Lion O]

That's from the horse's mouth (second hand for me, but from someone who talked to him).

Funny how things get turned around.

 

[8dog]

"That's from the horse's mouth (second hand for me, but from someone who talked to him)."

great stuff.

 

[Lion O]

He told someone that I know that he wasn't leaving if Tyrone left. It could be pure, unadultered BS, it could be true.

 

[Foronce]

so when you rate OM DC and FL DC you wonder what happens if you have a crappy season?

/like i said this weekend... he didn't turned down FL, why would you turn down a top 3 college in America... he wasn't offered

what kind of job does OM DC get vs. FL DC get?

 

[8dog]

I don't have any idea about the substance. It was just funny that you said it was "from the horse's mouth" and then you said that you actually didn't hear that from his mouth.

 

[TR.sixpack]

nm

 

[lawdawg02]

/an all time favorite...

 

[Shmuley]

to the other end of the horse.

 

[Mr Meoff]

....Oh, uh, not that anyone offered me the job. I just thought I should clarify my position.

/off to meet with my boss about that raise.

 

[ckDOG]

I'll take a stab at responding though...

so when you rate OM DC and FL DC you wonder what happens if you have a crappy season?

Yes. Expectations should be evaluated in any job you take. Expectations at Florida are inherently higher than at Ole Miss. There are benefits that go along with those expectations in the form of compensation and more exposure. But, the trade off is less tolerance for a crappy performance.

what kind of job does OM DC get vs. FL DC get?

It depends on how you look at it. On one hand, you have more upside at Florida in that other schools could more likely be willing to recruit you as HC should you have success. Strong to Louisville is the obvious current example. But along with that return, you have more risk. Florida may boot your *** out the door after one sub-par season. You have to take that into consideration. So, the answer to what kind of job does the OM DC get vs. the FL DC get may be: "they get to keep it".

Combine all that with a possibility of being the HC at OM down the road, and you could make a case for turning down the FL DC job**.

**I have no clue if he was offered or not, nor do I care. I'm just tossing out possibilities at why he could have turned down the Florida job if he was offered it.

 

[patdog]

I think LionO's theory is probably closest to the truth.

Word was he was offered (maybe not a true offer) and he counter offered UF. If that's true, they probably just decided to move on after the counter offer.

I can also partially see Nutt being an easier coach to work for than Meyer, he's got his brother on staff at UM but wouldn't at UF, etc. But Florida has had 2 coordinators land BCS head coaching jobs in 2 years. The last Mississippi coach to land a major conference coaching job was probably Bob Tyler. I can't believe a coach with any ambition at all would have just turned that down.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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[DerHntr]

</p>

 

[Foronce]

you make valid points

if nutt was fired/left that doesn't hand the job to Nix... who's to say they wouldn't come get Nix at FL next year.

that is kind of like thinking you are going to have a crappy season.
I don't think a guy FL is looking for would even consider having a crappy year. Therefore, if OM had a #1 rank def in the SEC or you were at FL with the #1 ranked def... who would get a better job offer.

I feel like FL DC is on another tier than OM DC.
Talent ... FL
Money ... FL
Pub/Recognition ... FL
job stabil... OM.. you can be ranked #4 and end up like last year with a cotton bowl bid and nothing accomplished and still keep your job there.

 

[lawdawg02]

...

 

[DerHntr]

it is riskier to be at Florida but the reward can be great.

 

[MedDawg]

nm

 

[thatsbaseball]

Do ya think Ole Miss could afford to let this happen even if the two events(and TSWRA etc) are not related ? Duh ...He probably got a raise and a promise of strong consideration for HC when Nutt dumps their ***.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...he must not want to be a head coach. You don't go from DC at OM or State to a major head coaching gig unless you have lights out defenses, and you're just simply not going to have the talent there consistently to do that. Dumb move on his part if he wants to be a head man someday. Maybe he doesn't.

However, it's fine with me that he stayed. He sure as hell hasn't figured out how to stop a spread offense. I give credit to Bruiser on that. He called it.

 

[patdog]

is going to take that risk every time.

 

[DerHntr]

[No message]

 

[patdog]

I'm perfectly fine with him staying.

 

[GloryDawg]

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">After the *** whipping his defense took from State and his inability to figure out how to stop it, why would they? </p>

 

[Mr Meoff]

*

 

[lawdawg02]

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[RebelBruiser]

The spread option is the only offense that gave Nix trouble all year, scheme-wise. That, and really any spread running attack.

UF doesn't really face any spread option teams or that many spread teams period in the East. Plus, I'd imagine UF's defenses, regardless of the coach would do fairly well against spread option teams or spread running attacks, since that's what they see all spring and all fall camp every year.