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The Cooterpoot

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Can't wait for the Baptists in the senate to kill it but at least people are trying. And a 15.5% tax on orders? Jesus
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Willow Grove Dawg

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Maybe they just need to write a provision that all liquor stores open on Sunday must enable back door access for the baptists.
When I was a kid in Pontotoc (dry town & county in the 80's), there were convenience (BEER) stores on Highway 6 at the Pontotoc/Lee County line & I had a family acquaintance that owned a similar store on the county line on the Black Zion/Palmetto Road which was a backroad that basically ran parallel with Highway 6 maybe 2 miles south. The owner of the store on the Palmetto Road said that he had the Baptist Beer Store because everyone driving between Pontotoc & Tupelo would see your vehicle at the stores on Highway 6. I grew up Southern Baptist, so I really enjoy his humor.
 

Dawgbite

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Y’all know the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist? A Methodist will speak to you in the beer store on Friday afternoon!
 

The Peeper

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When I lived in Rankin County area we attended Pine Lake Church. On the 2nd row at Pinelake, every Sunday, there was a family that was big into the reaching for the ceiling and waving of the arms, real nice folks too. I stopped in at 'The Quarter' liquor store on Lakeland after work pretty frequently. I started noticing the lady of the house from the 2nd row pulling up to The Quarter Liquor store frequently. She would pull in, a clerk would come outside w/ a liquor box case of something and put in the back seat of her car (she had obviously called ahead and ordered). She would hand over the credit card (presumably), clerk would take card back inside and run it and bring it back outside and she would sign the receipt. She never went in, they always brought it out to her so she didn't have to go in.

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Lowdog

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Back in the day convenience stores that sold beer always wanted to put your beer in a bag.

Me my biddy rolled up to a store and purchased a six pack of beer. The lady behind the counter asked if we wanted a bag. My buddy stoned faced said naw it is alright don’t need a bag I am not Baptist.
 

GloryDawg

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Help a Mormon out with a question. Why is it okay to drink Monday through Saturday but not on Sunday. If it's a sin shouldn't be a sin 24/7? Sin is a sin regardless of the day. If it is not sinful during the week then the Baptist should not care if they get it on Sunday.
 

TaleofTwoDogs

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Be carefully with Mississippi alcoholic beverage laws. The recent online wine purchase law is a joke. The statute permits internet purchases only on wine selections that are not available in the ABC warehouse. In addition, and this is the biggest block, internet purchases have to be direct with the winery not through retail shops or distributors. Very few wineries , especially in Europe have direct to consumer sales. US based internet sellers do not ship to Mississippi because of this restriction. Classic political bait and switch.
 

ETK99

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Help a Mormon out with a question. Why is it okay to drink Monday through Saturday but not on Sunday. If it's a sin shouldn't be a sin 24/7? Sin is a sin regardless of the day. If it is not sinful during the week then the Baptist should not care if they get it on Sunday.
Drinking isn't the sin per se, anyway
 
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Villagedawg

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When I was a kid in Pontotoc (dry town & county in the 80's), there were convenience (BEER) stores on Highway 6 at the Pontotoc/Lee County line & I had a family acquaintance that owned a similar store on the county line on the Black Zion/Palmetto Road which was a backroad that basically ran parallel with Highway 6 maybe 2 miles south. The owner of the store on the Palmetto Road said that he had the Baptist Beer Store because everyone driving between Pontotoc & Tupelo would see your vehicle at the stores on Highway 6. I grew up Southern Baptist, so I really enjoy his humor.
Used to catch a bunch of fish in a small lake just northwest of the Hwy 6 store, and I've bought plenty of beer at all of the above said locations especially when my cousin lived out in Black Zion. Had to pick it up on my way.
 

Villagedawg

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Help a Mormon out with a question. Why is it okay to drink Monday through Saturday but not on Sunday. If it's a sin shouldn't be a sin 24/7? Sin is a sin regardless of the day. If it is not sinful during the week then the Baptist should not care if they get it on Sunday.
Consistency is not their strong suit. Now self-righteous guffawing, on the other hand. . .

ETA: Seriously, though, it's not that it's a sin to buy or drink, but it is more of honoring a Sunday. Sunday's are reserved for rest and pious activities. That is the idea. Same reason that when I was growing up almost all stores were closed on Sunday. If you needed gas or milk, you better get it Saturday afternoon. You weren't finding a small town store open on Sunday. I also wasn't allowed to fish, hunt, or do any yardwork etc. on Sunday. But for some reason we would go out to eat for others to work. On second thought, as I was saying about consistency. . .
 
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greenbean.sixpack

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Be carefully with Mississippi alcoholic beverage laws. The recent online wine purchase law is a joke. The statute permits internet purchases only on wine selections that are not available in the ABC warehouse. In addition, and this is the biggest block, internet purchases have to be direct with the winery not through retail shops or distributors. Very few wineries , especially in Europe have direct to consumer sales. US based internet sellers do not ship to Mississippi because of this restriction. Classic political bait and switch.
The wineries in Germany know to which state they can ship. There are many wineries in Germany that sell direct to consumer (and ship to the US) at least they did 10 years ago.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Help a Mormon out with a question. Why is it okay to drink Monday through Saturday but not on Sunday. If it's a sin shouldn't be a sin 24/7? Sin is a sin regardless of the day. If it is not sinful during the week then the Baptist should not care if they get it on Sunday.
Left over relic of the “blue laws” days.
 

SoJxnVol

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In today’s world, Baptists and other congregants of other churches mainly mega churches are worse hypocrites than the people who occasionally attend or don’t attend at all so I don’t see where they should be allowed to complain. Count me in as one who doesn’t attend and welcomes this change.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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Help a Mormon out with a question. Why is it okay to drink Monday through Saturday but not on Sunday. If it's a sin shouldn't be a sin 24/7? Sin is a sin regardless of the day. If it is not sinful during the week then the Baptist should not care if they get it on Sunday.
Correct. And it being a sin is a pretty hard assertion given that Jesus turned water into wine so that the wedding host would NOT be embarrassed about running out of wine...alcohol is a toxin however and should be enjoyed responsibly like our fine posters on SPS demonstrate regularly...
 
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horshack.sixpack

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Consistency is not their strong suit. Now self-righteous guffawing, on the other hand. . .

ETA: Seriously, though, it's not that it's a sin to buy or drink, but it is more of honoring a Sunday. Sunday's are reserved for rest and pious activities. That is the idea. Same reason that when I was growing up almost all stores were closed on Sunday. If you needed gas or milk, you better get it Saturday afternoon. You weren't finding a small town store open on Sunday. I also wasn't allowed to fish, hunt, or do any yardwork etc. on Sunday. But for some reason we would go out to eat for others to work. On second thought, as I was saying about consistency. . .
and if you ask waiters church people are the worst tippers
 

Muttley

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Back in the 60's to the mid 80's my grandmother owned a liquor store in Meridian. She would have cases bagged up for a bootlegger coming from DeKalb since Kemper was dry. The guy was terrified when he was loading into his car because, at that time, you were limited on the amount you could purchase at once. It was comical watching him.
 

GloryDawg

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Correct. And it being a sin is a pretty hard assertion given that Jesus turned water into wine so that the wedding host would NOT be embarrassed about running out of wine...alcohol is a toxin however and should be enjoyed responsibly like our fine posters on SPS demonstrate regularly...
Not to get into debate because as a Mormon we believe if you live your religion you can get into heaven. But wine is not whisky or Vodka. During that time a lot of the water was bad, and whine was a safe alternative. Yeah, I know Jesus could fix the water as well but would have anyone believe it was safe? But seeing the water turn to wine show them he was the man and it is safe to drink. Today the water is safe and no need for wine. However, my mom grew her own grapes and use to turn them into whine to keep around house in case water went bad. Up until 1920 Mormons could drink beer and wine and they did. I got a lot of photos of my Great Granddad and Grand Dad with beer.
 

The Peeper

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Back in the day convenience stores that sold beer always wanted to put your beer in a bag.

Me my biddy rolled up to a store and purchased a six pack of beer. The lady behind the counter asked if we wanted a bag. My buddy stoned faced said naw it is alright don’t need a bag I am not Baptist.
It's still a law in MS that they are supposed to bag it. If its in a cardboard wrap type containment they don't have to but if its just the classic plastic 6pack holder they do. If its a 6 pack of bottles in a cardboard carton that holds 6 they don't have to.

Also, its illegal for a check out clerk that is a minor to scan the beer during checkout. They have to stop and call someone over that is old enough just to push the 6 pack across the scanner, how damn stupid is that? A minor can legally stock it on the shelves, they can bag it, they can wheel it out to your car in a buggy and put it in the car, but they can't run it across a scanner if they aren't old enough.

Thanks MS Legislature for your infinite wisdom.
 

Dawg Raid

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Not to get into debate because as a Mormon we believe if you live your religion you can get into heaven. But wine is not whisky or Vodka. During that time a lot of the water was bad, and whine was a safe alternative. Yeah, I know Jesus could fix the water as well but would have anyone believe it was safe? But seeing the water turn to wine show them he was the man and it is safe to drink. Today the water is safe and no need for wine. However, my mom grew her own grapes and use to turn them into whine to keep around house in case water went bad. Up until 1920 Mormons could drink beer and wine and they did. I got a lot of photos of my Great Granddad and Grand Dad with beer.
curious. Why did it change in the 20s?
 

cowboydawg

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When I lived in Rankin County area we attended Pine Lake Church. On the 2nd row at Pinelake, every Sunday, there was a family that was big into the reaching for the ceiling and waving of the arms, real nice folks too. I stopped in at 'The Quarter' liquor store on Lakeland after work pretty frequently. I started noticing the lady of the house from the 2nd row pulling up to The Quarter Liquor store frequently. She would pull in, a clerk would come outside w/ a liquor box case of something and put in the back seat of her car (she had obviously called ahead and ordered). She would hand over the credit card (presumably), clerk would take card back inside and run it and bring it back outside and she would sign the receipt. She never went in, they always brought it out to her so she didn't have to go in.

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Does Pine Lake Church preach that drinking is a sin?
 

GloryDawg

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curious. Why did it change in the 20s?
In 1833 the Doctrine and Convenance 89 became part of Mormon doctrine. It was called the Word of Wisdom and if you lived by it, you would have good health and a long life. This is where we get no tea, no coffee, no tobacco, no alcohol, need to let your food cool before eating and a few other things. It was custom at the time to smoke and drink alcohol, and most of the male members partook so it was not mandatory. In 1851 Brigham Young pushed it but it still was not mandatory to hold callings in the church and hold a temple recommend. We take sacrament every Sunday. In 1860 Brigham Young change it from wine to water. In 1901 many of the church leaders still consumed beer and smoked. With the passing of the Volstead act in 1919 Herbert J Grant the current President of the Church decreed it would mandatorily be beginning in 1920 that all members would have to live by the Word of Wisdom to hold a calling in the church or to hold a temple recommend.

I always joked it was because polygamy was still church doctrine up until 1895 and having 15 wives just drove you to drink and we had a bunch of drunks.
 

onewoof

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that state line ABC tax is EXPENSIVE. Gotta get money for nothing to give to lobbyists.
 

FreeDawg

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There have been spots for years to grab a pint on Sunday if you know where to go. There is one on Megar Evers where you can get a bonus delicious plate of food…. Or could 15 years ago (allegedly)
 

horshack.sixpack

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Not to get into debate because as a Mormon we believe if you live your religion you can get into heaven. But wine is not whisky or Vodka. During that time a lot of the water was bad, and whine was a safe alternative. Yeah, I know Jesus could fix the water as well but would have anyone believe it was safe? But seeing the water turn to wine show them he was the man and it is safe to drink. Today the water is safe and no need for wine. However, my mom grew her own grapes and use to turn them into whine to keep around house in case water went bad. Up until 1920 Mormons could drink beer and wine and they did. I got a lot of photos of my Great Granddad and Grand Dad with beer.
If it were sinful, by the definition of Jesus being fully God, he could not participate. He most assuredly could have used that as an opportunity to change some minds about wine, turned the water into something else, etc. but he did not.
 
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The Cooterpoot

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Until the state stops protecting little stores at the expense of its citizens, it's all just a charade. Wild taxes to order, limited availability of things in state, and higher prices. I've started driving over state lines to buy cheaper and to get a better selection.
 

GloryDawg

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If it were sinful, by the definition of Jesus being fully God, he could not participate. He most assuredly could have used that as an opportunity to change some minds about wine, turned the water into something else, etc. but he did not.
If wasn't a sin back, then because it was needed. They used wine because it was safe. Mormons can decide not to live by the word of wisdom, but they will never be able to hold a calling in the church or hold a temple recommend. Those things are important to members. Look at Mike Leach. He was a member of the church. I believed he partook. You can still be a member and not be excommunicated for it.
 

idog

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In today’s world, Baptists and other congregants of other churches mainly mega churches are worse hypocrites than the people who occasionally attend or don’t attend at all so I don’t see where they should be allowed to complain. Count me in as one who doesn’t attend and welcomes this change.
there isn't a person alive that isn't a hypocrit. human problem...but it sounds like you don't believe in sin and therefore right/wrong/good/evil so what anyone does really shouldn't matter. if i'm wrong then you do have a belief system whether you like it or not.
 

SoJxnVol

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there isn't a person alive that isn't a hypocrit. human problem...but it sounds like you don't believe in sin and therefore right/wrong/good/evil so what anyone does really shouldn't matter. if i'm wrong then you do have a belief system whether you like it or not.
I don’t know how you got I don’t believe in sin out of what I posted but okie dokie. 🙄
 

Villagedawg

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Not to get into debate because as a Mormon we believe if you live your religion you can get into heaven. But wine is not whisky or Vodka. During that time a lot of the water was bad, and whine was a safe alternative. Yeah, I know Jesus could fix the water as well but would have anyone believe it was safe? But seeing the water turn to wine show them he was the man and it is safe to drink. Today the water is safe and no need for wine. However, my mom grew her own grapes and use to turn them into whine to keep around house in case water went bad. Up until 1920 Mormons could drink beer and wine and they did. I got a lot of photos of my Great Granddad and Grand Dad with beer.
Up until the Temperance movement, so could Baptists and nearly every other Christian sect.
 
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Villagedawg

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there isn't a person alive that isn't a hypocrit. human problem...but it sounds like you don't believe in sin and therefore right/wrong/good/evil so what anyone does really shouldn't matter. if i'm wrong then you do have a belief system whether you like it or not.
Sin and right/wrong are two completely different things.