*** Soccer Post***
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If they know anything at all about soccer, even Stans's harshest critics would say he's a better basketball coach than Bradley is a soccer coach. It's a damn shame the US Federation cares more about propping up MLS than they do about doing what's best for our national team.</p>
When a team plays with the fundamentals of a 10-year-old girls soccer team, that is on the coach. Our defenders stand around and watch the pretty ball and lose focus on closing out and staying with their man. The lack of midfield control is also a big deal from the standpoint of substitutions. We have some really solid midfielders that can slow an attack, but he continues to put guys in there that have more caps. I want the best player out there not the guys who 'earned' it because he has been around forever.
We do need to prop up MLS some, as the only way we become better is if soccer becomes more popular here and our better athletes play it instead.
Something I have been noticing since we came back from the Confed Cup and all of us were blowing Bradley for the win over Spain. We should have dominated CONCACAF and yet we were pushed by every team in the division. Honestly the only CONCACAF team that should be able to play with us, player for player, is Mexico. But alas, we let T&T push us around.
But we should never, ever do it at the expense of the national team, which we have consistently done. We need to use MSL money to keep players who are in Europe sitting on the bench for their club teams in MLS where they could be playing instead of spending it on players like Landon Donovan, who should be starting in Europe. Not to mention wasting millions to bring David Beckham to MLS on a part-time basis.
but I agree we need someone else.
I think it needs to be a foreigner too. If we had any formerly great american players that played most of their career overseas, I would be cool with that too, but none come to mind.
I think it needs to be a foreigner too. If we had any formerly great american players that played most of their career overseas, I would be cool with that too, but none come to mind.
Denmark is at even less strength than we are. And I don't care if we lose if we played good soccer. But we are playing with a lack of fundamentals, which only leads me to look at the coach.
I can't think of a coach from Europe that is available that we would want. If you guys can think of one, let me know.
He's done well enough to be given the opportunity to prove it at the World Cup, and at worst he's maintained the growth in popularity of US Soccer, which only means it will get better. The more popular US Soccer is, the more popular MLS will become. The more popular MLS becomes, the more money the players will make. The more money the players make, the more kids will keep their soccer ball instead of their basketball or football. Then hopefully a few little Chris Paul's, Dwayne Wades, and Steve Smiths will become MLS players, it will explode into a relevant international league, and our World Cup team will be a serious threat to win it.
I'll remain patient and give Bradley some more time to operate. But WTF do I know? I think Stansbury is a good coach.
I'll remain patient and give Bradley some more time to operate. But WTF do I know? I think Stansbury is a good coach.
Wouldnt be a bad choice. If I could take anyone it would probably be Mourinho. I like Arsene Wenger too. That at least is my "Chris Petersen" list.
And by that I mean we are strengthening our National team and that will trickle down success to the MLS, which then will get stronger and trickle back up to the National team... rinse, lather, repeat.
I'll admit, I have a limited knowledge of developing the fundamentals of soccer, so I can't really comment on how well Bradley does that. However, we're better than we were a few years ago. That's progress, and he's earned the right to lead this team into the World Cup. After that, we'll see.
I'll admit, I have a limited knowledge of developing the fundamentals of soccer, so I can't really comment on how well Bradley does that. However, we're better than we were a few years ago. That's progress, and he's earned the right to lead this team into the World Cup. After that, we'll see.
I look at it like this. The fundamentals of Alabama football were not very good before Nick Saban got there. But look at it now. They rarely make a fundamental mistake, which allows their superior athletes to really run free.
I'll look at this way. He recruited well and got better athletes. Better athletes are not just more talented, but smarter and play with better fundamentals naturally. As US soccer grows in popularity, better athletes will play it. Bradley has maintained the growth in the sport, and thus is doing what he needs to do.msudogsrule01 said:
Think of this as our recruitment phase, only the big payoff will be 12-20 years down the road instead of 2-3 years. You can't just take ok athletes and win international competitions. The problem with the US has always been the quality of athlete playing soccer. Years ago, it was just a bunch of ****. Now, we have some pretty good athletes. Down the road, as I've said, hopefully Dwyane Wade grows up to play soccer.
there's not a whole lot he can do about the fundamentals of our players. He only has them for a week or so at a time for most of the year. They spend the vast bulk of their time with their club teams. He does do a terrible job of picking the right players to play and coming up with the right schemes for them to play in.
And as to Seshomoru's comment about US soccer improving under Bradley, this is just not true. In qualification for the 2006 World Cup we finished with 22 points (7-2-1) and a +10 goal differential. The play-in team finished 9 points behind us. In qualification for the 2010 World Cup we finished with 20 points (6-2-2) and a +6 goal differential. The play-in team finished 4 points behind us.
And as to Seshomoru's comment about US soccer improving under Bradley, this is just not true. In qualification for the 2006 World Cup we finished with 22 points (7-2-1) and a +10 goal differential. The play-in team finished 9 points behind us. In qualification for the 2010 World Cup we finished with 20 points (6-2-2) and a +6 goal differential. The play-in team finished 4 points behind us.
I'm not saying we won't have any success before then, but at the rate soccer is growing here, the U.S. is going to be able to have sustained success in 15-20 years. When I say sustained success, I mean we will come into any international competition as one of the favorites.
and qualified
and we're having a lengthy thread on US Soccer in the middle of NCAA football season
and we made the finals of the Confederations Cup
The popularity and results are better. So we finished with two less points in qualifying. We're there. We had major success at an international tourney. The momentum of soccer is sticking finally, and that's good. I actually think it's FANTASTIC that people are questioning our national team coach. 10 years ago, who would have given two ***** about it?
and we're having a lengthy thread on US Soccer in the middle of NCAA football season
and we made the finals of the Confederations Cup
The popularity and results are better. So we finished with two less points in qualifying. We're there. We had major success at an international tourney. The momentum of soccer is sticking finally, and that's good. I actually think it's FANTASTIC that people are questioning our national team coach. 10 years ago, who would have given two ***** about it?
Or Mourinho, I would think. Of course he isn't doing so well at Inter the last time I checked. But I don't keep up with it. Folks still want him back in the EPL though. Scolari is possible. We can beat out Uzbekistan. At least I hope so. He would be a good get.
Arsene will probably die on the sidelines at the Emirates, and if not, he'll go to France. I'm an Arsenal fan, so I switch between watching Wenger's beautiful football and whatever scrap the US plays. It would be a dream to have Wenger or a Wenger-esque coach for the US. Our hideous football would become watchable. I usually have trouble getting into a standalone US game, just because I'm not used to our style of play. It takes a tournament to get me really pumped for US soccer, because after a game or so I don't mind the way we play anymore. So sure, we can add him to my "Chris Petersen" list too. After he wins a Champion's League in London he can come win us a World Cup. Or at least teach us to pass the ball into the net.
I'm somewhat mixed towards Bradley. He hasn't done a terrible job, in my opinion, but he hasn't done a great one either. He fluctuates too much. Early this year we were ready to fire him, for good reason, then he pulls the Confed Cup out of nowhere and he looks great, then we slump again and no one expects anything out of South Africa next year. We do need a gangbusters of a coach. Dunno who he is or where he'd come from though.
Arsene will probably die on the sidelines at the Emirates, and if not, he'll go to France. I'm an Arsenal fan, so I switch between watching Wenger's beautiful football and whatever scrap the US plays. It would be a dream to have Wenger or a Wenger-esque coach for the US. Our hideous football would become watchable. I usually have trouble getting into a standalone US game, just because I'm not used to our style of play. It takes a tournament to get me really pumped for US soccer, because after a game or so I don't mind the way we play anymore. So sure, we can add him to my "Chris Petersen" list too. After he wins a Champion's League in London he can come win us a World Cup. Or at least teach us to pass the ball into the net.
I'm somewhat mixed towards Bradley. He hasn't done a terrible job, in my opinion, but he hasn't done a great one either. He fluctuates too much. Early this year we were ready to fire him, for good reason, then he pulls the Confed Cup out of nowhere and he looks great, then we slump again and no one expects anything out of South Africa next year. We do need a gangbusters of a coach. Dunno who he is or where he'd come from though.
i'd say guus hiddink will probably be looking for a job. sadly, he'll probably go to the premier league. it would be awesome to pick him up, but the chances of bradley being let go before july 2010 are next to none.
klinsmann is still out of a job after bayern did their (idiotic) thing again. i wouldn't mind him either.
klinsmann is still out of a job after bayern did their (idiotic) thing again. i wouldn't mind him either.