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rem101

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Get beckerman out of there.

his old *** is getting worked and he's on a yellow card.
 
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Just a disappointing tournament all around. We played like **** in all matches except Cuba. It will be interesting to see where and when the one game playoff to see if we go to the Confederations Cup.
 

esplanade91

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JK did a bad job of naming a roster. He out-coached himself. He's known for purposely shifting lineups to screw with future opponents, but he ended up underestimating everyone on the way to Mexico.

I want to put a lot of blame on MLS, namely the timing of the season and the fact that our best players leave their Euro teams for ridiculous contracts here in America, but we just got hosed by a Jamaican team full of middling MLS players.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Sorry. Forgot my **

It was a frustrating match to watch. We had lots of chances in the last 20 minutes but couldn't cash in. I will say that Jamaican coach looked like he was about to lose it when the game didn't end precisely after 3 minutes of injury time.
 

Bulldogg31

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I do like Klinsman a lot and I think we've come a long way in the last few years on offense, but we've perhaps regressed defensively.

I am also amazed at how bad some of our first touches are. I've seen U16 teams with better touches it seems. We also seem
To give away possession unnecessarily at times. Disconnected passes, hopeful crosses into the box, etc...we seem really rushed at times.
 

esplanade91

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I'm with you there, but Bradley looked like a defensive genius because our teams had no offense and just kicked the ball around the backfield the whole game.

There's no chemistry anywhere on the field, and it's especially evident in the midfield where dinosaurs who were never very good in the first place (LOOKING AT YOU BECKERMAN!) can't run up to the ball.

I wanted to win the Gold Cup, and I don't mean to downplay its significance, but it's not a big loss in the grand scheme of things. Will still take the same amount of games to qualify for the Confederations against the same team we'd have to beat in the final. This time we can bring a better roster without $50,000/yr veteran MLS players.
 

rem101

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We probably played like **** then too, but they're just so, well, Cuba that you couldn't tell.

Our game plan today was kick a long ball that lands just outside the 18 against a guy who's a good in-air defender. And late they were coming from straight upfield, not even swinging out wide.
 

KurtRambis4

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Beckerman

was pretty solid in our last gold cup and qualifying, as well as the WC. He's obviously still in there to bridge the gap, until we can find another defensive/holding mid.

Klinsmann used this this tournament as a tryout for some players, building up to qualifying. I'm not ok w losing, but I understand that it didn't really matter.
 

fishwater99

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Soccer had been growing for years.
Our problem is that our best athletes aren't pkaying soccer like in other countries.
 

esplanade91

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This is true, but it's not the big countries that are good at soccer. Population wise we should be dominating. It's a university model issue for me.
 
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With more and more research being done about concussions and mental health expect youth soccer participation to rise where youth football falls.
 

esplanade91

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I'm a big fan of Title 9, I just wish more universities decided it was worth adding a few extra sports to account for men's soccer. I'd be interested to see how MSU stacks up against the rest of the SEC in total scholarships.

Between gymnastics, swimming, equestrian, and a few having men's soccer, I'd think the MS schools would be last.
 

aTotal360

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Interesting to hear that Sharknado 3 "out trended" USMNT last night. I think that tells you how seriously we take soccer. It's definitely a growing sport, but it still has a long way to go. #flameaway
 

GhostOfJackie

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I actually disagree with most people in this thread. I thought we played pretty good as a whole. We had a few very costly lapses on defense and one was on the keeper. That's what cost us 2 goals. Other than that, Jamaica did not have many chances to score the entire game.

WE had 60% of possession and we just simply could not put the ball in the back of the net. That was a game that we should have won but stupid mistakes might cost us a trip to Russia for confed. I don't like our chances against Mexico with the way they are playing now.
 

Seinfeld

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I don't know why I find it to be so funny, but as far as internet sports talk goes, there is little that I find more hysterical that people trolling soccer fans. There are times when I think that you could threaten a guy's family and he wouldn't react as harshly as when you tell him that no one cares about soccer.

Anyway, for me, I'm one of those guys that will watch the big matches if they're on, but I'm not going to go out of my way to find them. It's tough when there's no college connection, it's not consistently played, you have guys seemingly bouncing from one league/team to another on a monthly basis, and let's be honest... we've just never been all that good.
 

aTotal360

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I've noticed that too and have a theory why. And I'll get flamed by those exact people you are talking about here in a second. It's pretty clear that the biggest ground swell of soccer fans in this country is coming from middle to upper class, white suburbanites. All of which are tech savvy and make great internet trolls. The reason why I think that demographic is attracted to soccer is because it's more relatable to them. There aren't that many 6'4'', 230 lbs soccer players that look like they belong in 300 or in the UFC. They do exists. But that's the exception, not the rule. Joe in accounting can sees a bunch of 5'10'', 180 lb guys running around and simply relates to it a little easier. Just a theory...
 
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It has more to do with people who don't care for soccer constantly interjecting their distaste for it into conversations about it. If you don't care that's fine but why do some feel the need to say that damn near every time it discussed. Another thing crazy theories about it's lack of popularity...like oh sharknado out-trended it so that shows how seriously we take soccer.
 

DudyDawg

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I actually disagree with most people in this thread. I thought we played pretty good as a whole. We had a few very costly lapses on defense and one was on the keeper. That's what cost us 2 goals. Other than that, Jamaica did not have many chances to score the entire game.

WE had 60% of possession and we just simply could not put the ball in the back of the net. That was a game that we should have won but stupid mistakes might cost us a trip to Russia for confed. I don't like our chances against Mexico with the way they are playing now.

Agree with most of that but the last sentence. Mexico should've been out in the quarters
 

esplanade91

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If that was the case, why wouldn't they also be baseball fans? Baseball players are notoriously the most out of shape athletes in sports.

I don't care if the guy aligns with how I look, I just like watching 45 minutes plus 45 minutes of commercial free, skilled sport. It takes a backseat to almost every other sport besides baseball when those sports are in season though.

As far as the college connection, I agree to an extent. I'm not very much into club soccer because I can't just pick a team. My NFL and NBA teams are from nearby my hometown. There isn't a soccer team near my hometown, and I think randomly picking an English team isn't genuine. I DO have an emotional connection to the U.S. though, and FIFA soccer is highly entertaining for that reason.
 

aTotal360

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They can be baseball fans as well. And I agree the format is a breath of air compared to our traditional sports. I grew up a soccer fan. I've been fortunate enough to travel oversees and see several matches, including UEFA cup games. And just like you, I only care to watch USMNT and FIFA games. I feel like MLS=XFL in terms of talent.

And I cheated with the demo profiles. I have a client that sponsors MLS soccer and they shared their market research data with us not too long ago. The raw data I saw look almost identical to these charts on The Atlantic.


http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-have-the-whitest-richest-oldest-fans/283626/
 
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I watch some UEFA matches and watched the Champions League. Obviously it's incredibly high level soccer but I like you just can't pick a random team in Europe to root for.
 

esplanade91

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I think it's going to take an American who is a world class striker going overseas and dominating in order for me to pick a club. OR for the MLS to move their season to run during normal soccer months and ups its pay so that it starts attracting Turkish/Portuguese league level talent.
 

aTotal360

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Money is the only answer. The influx of Arab money in the Premier League and La Liga shows that.
 

Seinfeld

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Yeah, I hear ya. I have a couple friends that like rattle my cage every now and then about how awful or boring they think that Seinfeld is because they know it gets to me. I'm the same way in that if it's not your type of humor, that's fine. But don't tell me that one of the most popular sitcoms in this nation's history is awful.

Of course, a bit of irony in all of this is that one of these same friends also happens to think that Madea is 17ing hysterical
 

Bulldogg31

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Just got to watch the replay of the USA/JAM match and you are correct, Jamaica was VERY fortunate to win that game. They had three or four decent chances and converted twice. USA had maybe a dozen really good looks at the goal and just couldn't convert.

It's like a good football team that rolls up 400 yards of offense but loses because they give up 2 long pick-6's. Sometimes that stuff just happens.
 
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