Some numbers in reference to the OM capital campaign

[DudyDog]

Currently, OM reaches official capacity 2 out of every 10 home games, since the last expansion in 2002 to 60,580. This coming from information provided byhttp://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/ole-m-footbl-stats.html<div>
</div><div>61 home games have been played in VHS since 2002, with 13 of those 61 being announced at capacity or above.</div><div>
</div><div>Not surprisingly, the LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Tenn. games have led the way with 10 of the 13 being played against one of these teams. Florida, Arkansas and Memphis round out the 13 sold out games over the past 9 seasons. </div><div>
</div><div>Season attendance averages have been 57,217 / 56,509 / 58,373 / 54,225 / 53,801 / 49,704 / 53,005 / 55,767 / 55,898 over the same time span. Average attendance over the past 9 years has been 54,944.</div><div>
</div><div>I just thought some actual numbers needed to be displayed since this was such a hot topic in threads below. </div><div>
</div><div>Do I think they need to expand? Of course I do. I hope they spend 150 million on a stadium upgrade. Tie it up in concrete and it can't be spent anywhere else. Besides, LSU, Auburn and Bama will appreciate the extra tickets every other year.</div><div>
</div><div>And as Bruiser has stated, "It's ludicrous to pretend we're unable to somehow pack a stadium, just because we're announcing an expansion. We hit over the 60,000 mark plenty".</div><div>
</div><div>I happen to agree with him. 2 out of every 10 games is plenty.</div><div>
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[DudyDog]

Currently, OM reaches official capacity 2 out of every 10 home games, since the last expansion in 2002 to 60,580. This coming from information provided byhttp://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/ole-m-footbl-stats.html<div>
</div><div>61 home games have been played in VHS since 2002, with 13 of those 61 being announced at capacity or above.</div><div>
</div><div>Not surprisingly, the LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Tenn. games have led the way with 10 of the 13 being played against one of these teams. Florida, Arkansas and Memphis round out the 13 sold out games over the past 9 seasons. </div><div>
</div><div>Season attendance averages have been 57,217 / 56,509 / 58,373 / 54,225 / 53,801 / 49,704 / 53,005 / 55,767 / 55,898 over the same time span. Average attendance over the past 9 years has been 54,944.</div><div>
</div><div>I just thought some actual numbers needed to be displayed since this was such a hot topic in threads below. </div><div>
</div><div>Do I think they need to expand? Of course I do. I hope they spend 150 million on a stadium upgrade. Tie it up in concrete and it can't be spent anywhere else. Besides, LSU, Auburn and Bama will appreciate the extra tickets every other year.</div><div>
</div><div>And as Bruiser has stated, "It's ludicrous to pretend we're unable to somehow pack a stadium, just because we're announcing an expansion. We hit over the 60,000 mark plenty".</div><div>
</div><div>I happen to agree with him. 2 out of every 10 games is plenty.</div><div>
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[aTotal360]

lol

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

...Delta State will never be able to help fill a 75,000 seat stadium every other year.

 

[AssEndDawg]

Ole Miss has been ridiculed in the Clarion-Ledger and, of course, online for their ridiculous attendance figures. Most of the time they report tickets sold instead of actual attendance. Now maybe tickets sold is the important thing, but they don't actually pack the stadium even with a sell out. Ole Miss should definitely make improvements to the stadium but to expand right now is pretty silly. It will be interesting to see how their campaign goes, I know my Ole miss friends said they won't be contributing until Boone is gone.

 

[elmsurfer1]

In 2008, State averaged 43,453 and totaled 260,716 in a six-game home schedule.

 

[Dental Dawg]

Because this freshman class will probably win a national championship in 2014.

Edited to add******************************************

 

[RebelBruiser]

Run the numbers for State's last 9 years. Why again are you expanding?

That's my point. By the way, I think you're late in doing this expansion.

I can tell it really burns you, and well a whole lot of you, up that we're expanding. Given the way your fans reacted over having the largest video board, I think I know why that is. It's because you're measuring against us, and you don't want to be on the short end of that measurement.

Our season ticket sales the last 4-5 years have been very high. We've either sold out of season tickets or we've been really close. I think that's reason enough to consider expansion. Plus, the student body is continuing to grow. We've had record freshman enrollments the last two years, and that means it could help if we could add a few thousand more student tickets as well.

Prior to the SEZ expansion, we had roughly 5000 student tickets available. Now we have 7500 available. I'm sure with this expansion, we'll have 10,000 or so available, which will help meet some of that demand as well as the demand we still have for luxury suites and club level seating.

 

[mjh94]

2009 we averaged 53,792 and 2010 we average 54,999... 83 shy of capacity. which is 99.84% capacity. that's why we're expanding

last year mississippi average 92% capacity

 

[croomsgone]

i am ecstatic to watch this shitshow unfold. y'all will get the money, you always do but it won't come as easily this time after another record low year in the big 3 and the dilemma on whether or not you can afford to fire all three coaches and expand. we actually think it is hilarious that you are expanding. yes if you ran our 10 year numbers they would be low - because of croom and the end of sherrill - but they would be "on the rise" and not on the downslope. we have also been OVER capacity numerous times in the past 2 years. late? we would've been absolutely idiotic to expand with croom here. the most telling numbers are the ones someone ran a few months ago that show percentage of capacity filled and state was in the 98th percentile i believe and like third behind alabama (at 105) and someone else in the SEC.

 

[topdawg.sixpack]

nm

 

[EAVdog]

I've heard tons how awesome your IPF is in the last few years. Of course it's always in reference to the fact we don't have one. (even though we do) And I've also been told many times that your new Jumbotron while technically smaller has higher resolution than ours.

So pissng match aside, what's the logic on holding off on the tad Pad in lieu of charging ahead with the Stadium Expansion? Are they really holding off 4 years before they move forward with it or is too early to tell?

 

[shsdawg]

you. I really don't know or care what UM's needs are so I can't comment. As long as we take care if ours I'm happy. We need to expand the stadium at this point. That's the first time I've said that in a long time.

 

[dawgstudent]

it doesn't bother me either way. I just think it's worth commenting on that you are announcing an expansion coming off a 4-8 season and basically saying we can't pay for a basketball arena unless we throw in the idea of a football expansion so people can give. It's funny but at the same time - smart because no Ole Miss fan is going to give for basketball only.

 

[BehrDawg]

Of course we are trying to beat UM out on everything, you are our rival. We do not try and say otherwise (unlike your fanbase, ya'll try to focus it around the Magnolia bowl?)

I thinkUM fansare getting tired of MSU catching your toes and running over you with a bulldozer.

Record Enrollment this fall
*** spanking last two years in Football
Final 4
CWS-Multiple Appearances
Super Regional Last year
Excellent basketball facilities
HUGE plan for stadium expansion
Building one of the nicest indoor practice facilitiesin the SEC
Hot chicks everywhere (3 in a row)
edited to add this: $37 million in private donations to athletics in a single year (sets a record). Ole Miss has never touched this number

So what if we don't have a Maison Weiss and use real china at picnics...that's gay. I think the problem is, UM is afraid and worried that MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY IS OUTDOING YOUR ASSES.

Not hard to see...

 

[RebelBruiser]

It's not just the basketball arena. It's other sports upgrades that we need that are getting lumped in as well.

And yes, they did debate doing them as separate fundraisers, but they determined that it would be better to do them as a lump fundraiser, so that you get money for the other sports on the back of football and to a lesser extent, basketball.

The basketball arena, to my understanding, is a roughly $70M endeavor. It's smart to include that with a package that includes football, so that it's sure to generate the momentum for the giving.

Our basketball arena deal is WAY past due. I think it should've come well before the basketball practice facility, but that's neither here nor there now.

Ultimately, it's the smart thing to do to lump all of these projects together and get them done under one umbrella, so that we don't have any major glaring shortfalls in facilities in really any sport. It's smart, and if MSU were doing it, this board would be sucking Stricklin off for being so savvy. Since Ole Miss is doing it, it's stupid. You didn't say that, but that's the general reaction. Just pointing out the hypocrisy in it all. By the way, UT did essentially the same thing with a fundraiser, lumping in the basketball practice facility and Neyland upgrades with other sports to help generate funds for the sports that have a tougher time attracting the giving.

On another note, I think the fact that we're close to selling out season tickets coming off a 4-8 season is a pretty good reason to consider an expansion. Obviously when things turn around, the demand will be even greater, and hopefully we'll have the project complete in time to accommodate most of that demand.

 

[EAVdog]

Both Universities are very good bargains for the level of education and as costs rise elsewhere more students will stay in state and more out of state students will continue to pour in. I think lumping the Basketball and Football facilities is good if that's what it takes to raise money. I probably would have done it in a way that when the money is raised for the Basketball Facility it could move forward independently. But maybe I like basketball more than the average Ole Miss donor.
And whether or not you're plan has anything to do with our expenasion your administration would be stupid not to strategically time it appropriately. People who have the money to buy construction bonds will buy them as an investment. It doesn't matter where they went to school. I'm sure a good number of Ole Miss Alumni will invest in some 'Bulldog Bonds' if the return is enough. There is only so much free capital to go around theses days so you have to scrap over what's out there.

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

Over the last 9 years, UM has reached capacity for 13 of 61 games (21%). In the same time, MSU has reached capacity for 8 of 58 games (14%).</p>

However, where you see that change is more recently...</p>

In the last 4 years, UM has reached capacity for 6 of 28 games (21%). MSU has reached capacity for 8 of 26 games (31%). UM's average here is 88% of capacity. MSU's is 92%.</p>

In the last 2 years, UM has reached capacity for 5 of 14 games (36%). MSU has reached capacity for 7 of 14 games (50%). UM's average here is 92% of capacity. MSU's is 99%.</p>

UM has averaged in excess of 95% capacity for a season once in the last 9 years, and it was 7 years ago. MSU has averaged in excess of 95% capacity for two seasons in the same period--the last two.</p>

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Auburn's cost $92 million and seats less than 10k. Way to lowball it Bears.

 

[GloryDawg]

bd

 

[GloryDawg]

Every year they when the rankings come out they let you know about it.</p> Ask this guys opinion about it.

</p>

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

Auburn's cost $92 million and seats less than 10k. Way to lowball it Bears.

I'm interested as well. I think the main difference is Auburn's has luxury suits and ours wont. Not sure though. We'll all know in about 4 hours, but I'm not worried. It should he nice

 

[EAVdog]

That's not low balling. One thing that Auburn did that Mr White referenced yesterday in his radio time with Head-to-Head was Auburn's use of selling luxury boxes to fund the construction of the basketball arena. The reason their arena has so many luxury boxes is because they open to the outdoors and are used (and were sold) as luxury tailgaiting spaces during football season. Basketball is really not much of a draw at Auburn but my including a football related use into the facility they could sell the project. I'm a bit curious as to how selling luxury/prime seats in a future VH expansion will generate enough funds for the time frame when it comes to the basketball arena. Just curious, not doubting.

I know everyone is hyping the 'renderings' but I expect them to be very fuzzy on the details. Lots of watercolor-ish looking images with ghost people and blurry crowds etc... AEcom was only hired 4 months ago so unless y'all hired some other designers it'll be some nice 'atmoshperics'. Which is perfectly normal at this stage. I could be wrong though, maybe they hired some Chinese renderers and have full blown eye candy. (chinese renderers are cheap and pretty good)

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

Of course we are trying to beat UM out on everything, you are our rival. We do not try and say otherwise (unlike your fanbase, ya'll try to focus it around the Magnolia bowl?)

I thinkUM fansare getting tired of MSU catching your toes and running over you with a bulldozer.

Record Enrollment this fall
*** spanking last two years in Football
Final 4
CWS-Multiple Appearances
Super Regional Last year
Excellent basketball facilities
HUGE plan for stadium expansion
Building one of the nicest indoor practice facilitiesin the SEC
Hot chicks everywhere (3 in a row)
edited to add this: $37 million in private donations to athletics in a single year (sets a record). Ole Miss has never touched this number

So what if we don't have a Maison Weiss and use real china at picnics...that's gay. I think the problem is, UM is afraid and worried that MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY IS OUTDOING YOUR ASSES.

Not hard to see...

Do you really think we care about your college world series apperance or final four appearance? I was 9 when that happened. We certainly aren't jealous of your women or your super regional. Whether we are right or wrong, OM fans feel like we have better facilities in 2 of the 3 sports and soon will have all three. Whether we are right or wrong, we think our baseball program is better than yours. And once again, whether we are right or wrong we think our football program will bounce back and be the better program in any way you want to measure it whether thas facilities, total wins, total bowl wins, wins over the past decade, bowl wins over the past decade, etc. Whether all that is right or wrong, that's what we believe. We are very very upset about the past two egg bowls, but the rest of the **** you mentioned doesn't pop into our heads, whether it should or shouldn't.

 

[ElectroSpanish]

So you're saying the delusions of the OM fan base show no signs of abatement and your distance from reality continues to increase. Got it thanks.

 

[hotdigitydog]

100K........Woe is me........We can't keep up witha school that has a 70K capacitystadium compared to our 55K..........Now, if they need to expand anything it's the grove........That's where their fans go anyway........</p>

 

[champ.sixpack]

Holy 17, that was the dumbest response I've ever read. At least you are finally embracing your stupidity.

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

So you're saying the delusions of the OM fan base show no signs of abatement and your distance from reality continues to increase. Got it thanks.

Well you need to make your mind up. Either everything we do is because of Mullen and we are scared shitless or we are delusional and have no idea about your take over.

 

[dawgstudent]

a Final Four from 15 years ago when 99% of Ole Miss fans will reference 1963.

 

[ElectroSpanish]

Actually it's pretty easy to have it both ways. Your fan base is delusional. Everything the OM athletic department is doing at the moment is completely reactionary and dependent upon MSU.

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

Holy 17, that was the dumbest response I've ever read. At least you are finally embracing your stupidity.

So I should be obsessed with state?

 

[Dental Dawg]

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[whereisomaha.sixpack]

Actually it's pretty easy to have it both ways. Your fan base is delusional. Everything the OM athletic department is doing at the moment is completely reactionary and dependent upon MSU.

So the fact that we have the worst basketball arena for the past 20 years has nothing to do with this campaign. The football aspect is attached to the campaign to increase funds and interest. I doubt we could raise 70 mil just with us asking for basketball money. Most people do this. Tennessee did this three years ago. This is a basketball driven campaign with football improvements to attract more money. Everything our administration is doing is fan driven because Boone is out if he doesn't do something to prove he will do what it takes to win championships, not biggest stadium in MS. The fact that us improving our facilities is bothering you all so much is insane

 

[dawgstudent]

I've never seen a school coming off a 4-8 season announce a football stadium expansion. It's pretty amazing to me. That's a testament to your fanbase and your Ath Dept.

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

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Ummm because of all the OM topics. Is Dawgstudent or other posters who post on Nafoom obsessed with OM?

 

[Dental Dawg]

Why else would someone go to Nafoom?

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

a Final Four from 15 years ago when 99% of Ole Miss fans will reference 1963.

Did you not read the quote I was replying to? He referenced it. I was responding to his refrenece. And did I mention what we did 50 years ago? No. It has nothing to do with today. Same with 80's baseball or one year in the 90's in football and basketball

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

We aren't obsessed with summer recruiting or pre season position rankings. And we don't obsess over two teams. Do y'all have a quota for OM threads a day? Now that the season is getting closer Nafoom has turned back into a sports board. There's only one thread on the front page that isn't sports related. And we even have a Mullen thread.

 

[Dental Dawg]

I'm just (17)'n with you. Have fun on our board. I could care less if you come over here.