Some of you need to realize it's not 1999 anymore

[Coach34]

Miss State has fallen to being a bottom half SEC baseball program. We cant lose almost all of our position player starters and keep on rolling like we used to. I dont like where we are either, and I'm hopeful Cohen can get us more consistent. We havent won the SEC since 1989. We havent won the West since the 1990's. We did make a Super Regional last season- it seems some of you forgot that.

We're a young team at the plate this season- you cant change that fact. We went toe-to-toe with a top 15 team last night and lost a helluva game. You guys are acting as if we lost by 10 runs. We cant reload right now after the years of neglect and letting our history carry us- we have to rebuild. We'll get there

Many of you bitched alot early in the season last year and ended up looking real dumb by season's end. Let it play out. Afterall, just like a team of ours played it's way out of the NCAA Tourney down the stretch, we can also play our way into the Tourney down the stretch like last season.

 

[Coach34]

Miss State has fallen to being a bottom half SEC baseball program. We cant lose almost all of our position player starters and keep on rolling like we used to. I dont like where we are either, and I'm hopeful Cohen can get us more consistent. We havent won the SEC since 1989. We havent won the West since the 1990's. We did make a Super Regional last season- it seems some of you forgot that.

We're a young team at the plate this season- you cant change that fact. We went toe-to-toe with a top 15 team last night and lost a helluva game. You guys are acting as if we lost by 10 runs. We cant reload right now after the years of neglect and letting our history carry us- we have to rebuild. We'll get there

Many of you bitched alot early in the season last year and ended up looking real dumb by season's end. Let it play out. Afterall, just like a team of ours played it's way out of the NCAA Tourney down the stretch, we can also play our way into the Tourney down the stretch like last season.

 

[Coach34]

Miss State has fallen to being a bottom half SEC baseball program. We cant lose almost all of our position player starters and keep on rolling like we used to. I dont like where we are either, and I'm hopeful Cohen can get us more consistent. We havent won the SEC since 1989. We havent won the West since the 1990's. We did make a Super Regional last season- it seems some of you forgot that.

We're a young team at the plate this season- you cant change that fact. We went toe-to-toe with a top 15 team last night and lost a helluva game. You guys are acting as if we lost by 10 runs. We cant reload right now after the years of neglect and letting our history carry us- we have to rebuild. We'll get there

Many of you bitched alot early in the season last year and ended up looking real dumb by season's end. Let it play out. Afterall, just like a team of ours played it's way out of the NCAA Tourney down the stretch, we can also play our way into the Tourney down the stretch like last season.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

You can't have 4 injured starting position players and 1 weekend starter injured and expect to win consistently. All you can hope for is to compete and hope that you have a chance to get the win at the end of the game. I mean we are pulling players(fullerton) from spring break trips to fill starting positions...that's how thin we are right now. On to Cohen though, he needs to just sit back and let the game play out sometimes. He tries to make things happen on the base paths too much which takes the bat out of players hands(not that we could hit anyway). I don't mind being aggressive on the base paths but I would argue that he's a little too aggressive and that takes away opportunities. We are being thrown out stealing or trying to take the extra base WAY too often.

 

[BillBraskyDOG]

Jeez we get it, you love the guy.

 

[bobthecavemonkey]

why everyone is jumping ship. We have basically an all new infield and we lost 4 guys and we are supposed to win all our games. I don't understand that reasoning. I think last nights game should be symbol of hope not a death omen for the season. At least Stratton didn't get screwed in the head as soon as we started SEC play. That should be a good sign if nothing else is.

 

[weblow]

We lose a game and the season is over, it is just how a lot of people respond. Everyone, myself included, makes fun of Polk constantly saying "that's baseball," but in all truth, a lot of time he was right.

The injuries are just a stroke of bad luck for us and have really knocked us down. Once everyone is back healthy, I feel like we will be a good team. Even once everyone is back and healthy we will still win some and lose some and "that's baseball."

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I'm will admit I'm not a big college baseball fan but I do follow our team (somewhat), but I know enough not to flip out this early in the season. Cohen is a great coach, and I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't end up in a regional either. Give him some time to work with the young players, and we should imrpove. Also, it is great to see Stratton pitching like he waswhen he wasa freshman. When he is on; he is one of the best in the SEC.

 

[patdog]

There were 50 teams that could have won that regional with the draw we got. At the time we played them, USM wasn't even one of the best 80 teams in the country, much less a #2 seed caliber team. For all the injury excuses we're hearing right now for our team, USM was hit just as hard with injuries when we played them. What Cohen did is the basketball equivalent of coming into the NCAA tournament as an 11 seed and finding out that the #6 seed has just lost their best 2 players to injury and another starter is in a bad slump. Then after you win that game, the 14 seed upsets #3 and you just drew into a sweet and easy round of 16. Yes, it's great that you got there, and you do deserve credit for winning the games you're supposed to win. But a lot of things that were completely out of your control just fell into your lap to get you there.

I see you haven't replied to my post about Cohen's postseason record. 9 postseason tournament, 4 as the #1 seed, and only1 win. Seems to me that's the kind of record you can't stand.</p>

 

[Repeat Offender]

lack of depth? MSU has a great tradition in baseball, recruiting a complete roster of solid players should not be very difficult. We have been to 3 CWS in the past 15 years, the latest being just 5 years ago, most coaches would give their left nut to get the opportunity to run a program of our stature. I loved the Cohen hire, but he has been underwhelming so far during his tenure at State.

 

[Coach34]

when the SEC was its weakest in our lifetimes- with the highest seed from the SEC being an 8, and only 3 SEC teams out of 12 making the NCAA Tourney...and it would have only been 2 teams had we not won the SEC Tourney....

BUT

We should apologize for winning a regional on the road against a nationally ranked team?????


ok then

 

[Coach34]

that's our tradition for ya

 

[patdog]

John Cohen had 3 good chances to get to an NCAA tournament when he finished 1st, 1st and 2nd in the Southland Conference. But he never made it to one. I'd say what Stans did in 2009 is a hell of a lot better than that.

 

[Coach34]

and it's dumb to even suggest it isnt

 

[BriantheDawg]

Got it.

 

[patdog]

But Cohen's overall postseason record isn't that good. It's just not. And I'd a lot rather not have to rely on a very fortunate draw as a #3 seed to win a regional. I can guarantee you Cohen won't be winning many regionals as a #3 seed.</p>

 

[Moonlight Graham]

and scholarship limits in baseball. There's your answer.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Didn't know you finally found the interwebs.

I guess those scholarship limitations only apply to one school. That, of course, being the unlucky Mississippi State University.

 

[Repeat Offender]

dumbass(C34). Everytime that we play baseball on tv, they mention 4 or 5 former players that have had great MLB careers. We hold basically every attendance record in NCAA baseball history, and made the equivalent of the elite 8 as recently as 5 years ago(8 total), we are known for baseball, period. Oh yeah, SI named us as one of the best places to experience a baseball game. Stans is gone, you can nowstop making up **** to support your agenda. Is there anyone else on this board that believes that our bball tradition is better than that of our baseball program?? Damn.

 

[Repeat Offender]

I never was a big fan of Polk even when we were winning. I greatly appreciate what he did at MSU, but I never personally cared for him. He had little man syndrome and I didn't care for his "that's baseball"BS) and even worse was the excuse about the pressurethat playing in front of huge home crowds puts on the players. I just think that Cohen should be held to the same standard as the rest of our coaches, not have ******** excuses given to justify the product that he is putting on the field. We have one of the best baseball traditions in the country, it should not take 5 or more years to get us back to winning consistently.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

The LSU announcers even acknowledged the roster limitations last as the problem and said that LSU would be in the same shape had they had 5 starters hurt. Relax, I know your butt hurt bc stans lost his job cause he couldn't win or even make it to the post season but Cohen made the sweet 16 in his 3rd year and will be in a regional again this year.

 

[Repeat Offender]

nfm

 

[BriantheDawg]

Are we worse now because of them? Of course. We were struggling to beat the likes of Mississippi Valley before they got hurt though.

This team will be very lucky to make a Regional this year. In year 4, that's pretty f'n sad.

 

[Repeat Offender]

but I wouldn't be so confident on the making a regional guarantee. During year4 of a "good" coach's tenureat a baseball school like MSU, a regional invite should be a given(even with a few injuries).

 

[Moonlight Graham]

Sure we weren't winning by large margins but hey all things considered a win is a win. We were in really good shape to make some noise in the SEC had we not had those injuries. Am I thrilled with 14-6 in his fourth year...nope but he has a legitimate pass this year. If you are so dense that don't see the effect that 5 injured starters have on a team there's really nothing else I can say.

 

[ScaldedDawg]

Our history shows that we were pretty good in baseball. Not many other schools gave 2 ***** about college baseball, and pretty much resigned us to being "a baseball school". I think we are all wanting us to be good again like in the Palmeiro and Clark days.

I am sure Notre Dame wants to be relevant in football again (like their tradition)<span style="font-style: italic;">
</span>I am sure Michigan want to be relevant in football again (like their tradition)
Etc. Penn State. etc.

I bet LSU "tradition" wants to find the next Skip Bertman (It wasn't Smoke Lavall and probably not Maineri)

 

[BriantheDawg]

I'm not on here to bash our coach. But he certainly hasn't met or exceeded expectations by any stretch of the imagination. We're not that much better off than when he first got here, whether you want to accept that or not.

If you would have told me in year 4 that we'd be still losing to teams like Mercer, getting swept by SELA (that's 5 in a row now we've lost to them by the way), struggling to beat Valley, and will 'probably' make a Regional, I'd have said you're crazy. We should be HOSTING Regionals by now, not hoping to just get in one.

What's going to be the excuse next year when we're young again.....after Reed, Stratton and Routt are all gone?

 

[Dawgbreeze]

until the day they die. Cohen is great, Stans is ******. Patdog said it correctly, coach changes colors depending on his agenda. He has set the precedent for posting about coaches on here and he will now reap what he sowed. He better hope the new basketball coach succeeds because God forbid, he is going to hear about every day just like he blasted our coach every momeent he typed.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

LSU has the guy they want. You're right in comparing Cohen to Lavall. They're in similar situations in trying to replace a long time coach that had a lot of success. Polk didn't have Berkman's success but you can't deny he put MSU baseball on the map and is now being replaced by a guy who isn't capable of getting the job done for the expectations we have for the program...and as for the Michigan football comment, they also just played in the Sugar bowl after replacing the coach (Rich Rod) that replaced a long time coach.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

We lose Routt, Reed and Brownlee because they're Seniors. We have potential to lose Stratton (especially if he keeps that up), Graveman, and Bracewell to the draft (maybe others). Will our excuse next year be "well you can't lose your weekend rotation and best reliever and expect to win in the SEC"? There comes a time where you have face reality and win with what you have. 2008 was Polk's worst season but I haven't heard anybody make excuses that they played the majority of the conference that year with Brandon Turner (hamstring), Aaron Weatherford (shoulder), Justin Pigott (shoulder), Chad Crosswhite (quad), Cody Freeman (labrum surgery), Ryan Collins (labrum surgery), Connor Powers (hamstring), and Russ Sneed (hip labrum) all on the DL. All that after losing from the previous years Omaha team: Jeffrey Rea, Brian LaNinfa, Mitch Moreland, Joseph McCaskill, Ed Easley, and Josh Johnson. But hey, let's keep blaming Polk for starting this mess. He intentionally screwed the program and is sitting in his ivory tower at the UAB coaching offices laughing hysterically at our misery.<div>
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[Hector.sixpack]

Ppl lose games in baseball..UNC and LSU have lost to teams that make you go ummm. Ive only seen the team play once this year..but ai think this is Cohens most talented team, i fully expect a good run in the SEC.

 

[Coach34]

we dont know what this one has in store for us yet

 

[Coach34]

Didnt Stansbury teach you anything the other day????

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

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[DawgatAuburn]

Granted, that's not very often.

If you knew how to use the search feature, I would challenge you to find one post where I said we should fire Stans. Those worthless assistants, yes. Stans, no.

 

[Coach34]

next year or I'll be for finding a new coach.

What I'm saying is that I'm not worried about where he finishes in the SEC so much as I want to see us in Supers and in the CWS. Obviously, the better we do in the SEC, the better our chances- but NCAA play trumps all. Thats why people have expectations for a program with 8 losing SEC records the last 10 seasons- because we perform in the postseason in baseball

 

[cytubb]

ones that cannot bounce back, or is it just a convenient excuse. Everyone has one by the way.

 

[Dubs.sixpack]

Postseason is much more important than regular season play. However, the SEC has sent 4 different teams to the championship round in Omaha in the past four years (UGA, LSU, USC-twice, and FL) and they've all been SEC regular season champs or in the case of last year, FL and USC tied for first. You can't completely write off the regular season when winning it has the potential to translate into a national championship and can dictate how tough your postseason can be. If you want to host, you better show up the first 56 games.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[Coach34]

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