somebody explain the media's thing for D. Nkemdeche ...

futaba.79

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the guy had 17 solo tackles last year and he is a 2nd team pick. I know he missed some games but, when he played, he didn't do much. I don't get it at all.
 

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the guy had 17 solo tackles last year and he is a 2nd team pick. I know he missed some games but, when he played, he didn't do much. I don't get it at all.

He's 2nd team Ole Miss, though most of that is attitude related, but I don't get 2nd team All-SEC when you're 2nd team on your own team's depth chart.

I have heard rumors that even Robert says that Denzel is a bad influence for him. That's just good rumor though.

He did play most of last year injured and/or missed games. Plus, I think he spent some time in the coaches' dog house, so that impacts his stats. If he has his mind right, he can be an exceptional player. The numbers he put up as a redshirt freshman were stat-book filling. He was all over everywhere, intercepting passes, forcing fumbles, getting tackles, you name it.

I wouldn't have voted him All-SEC though based on the assumption that he's going to get his mind right, because that's no guarantee, and he's going into the season playing behind Bird Bryant, who has proven to be quite a player himself.
 

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He's 2nd team Ole Miss, though most of that is attitude related, but I don't get 2nd team All-SEC when you're 2nd team on your own team's depth chart.

I have heard rumors that even Robert says that Denzel is a bad influence for him. That's just good rumor though.

He did play most of last year injured and/or missed games. Plus, I think he spent some time in the coaches' dog house, so that impacts his stats. If he has his mind right, he can be an exceptional player. The numbers he put up as a redshirt freshman were stat-book filling. He was all over everywhere, intercepting passes, forcing fumbles, getting tackles, you name it.

I wouldn't have voted him All-SEC though based on the assumption that he's going to get his mind right, because that's no guarantee, and he's going into the season playing behind Bird Bryant, who has proven to be quite a player himself.
Agreed. The potential is there for him to be great but he's one of those guys that feels entitled to do whatever he wants. I remember waiting in line to get in a bar a few months ago and Denzel walked right up to the front door and was let in without having to show ID or pay a cover charge. He looked back at us poor folks and just smiled as he was walking in. I turned around and left because I was so disgusted.
 

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his brothers recruitment was a media circus and was the number 1 recruit in the nation...hence the attention. plus, he is a certified psychopath and a lightning rod of contention.
 

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I remember waiting in line to get in a bar a few months ago and Denzel walked right up to the front door and was let in without having to show ID or pay a cover charge. He looked back at us poor folks and just smiled as he was walking in. I turned around and left because I was so disgusted.[/QUOTE]

He acts this way because the good people of Oxford allow this **** to go on. No one to blame but yourselves.
 

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He had some free drinks he needed to get to before the ice started melting.
 

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Would you be against allowing a popular MSU player to cut to the front of the line at a Starkville bar?

Do you not follow MSU sports? The most popular player in the history of our school was kicked out of the line to get into our shittiest bar recently, and the next day that bar tweeted that he was a thug.
 

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Do you not follow MSU sports? The most popular player in the history of our school was kicked out of the line to get into our shittiest bar recently, and the next day that bar tweeted that he was a thug.

Yeah, that's kind of my point. When Dixon wasn't allowed to cut to the front of the line, almost everyone here was outraged and ready to boycott Cowbells for daring to treat him that way. But Dental Dawg's acting like there's some moral deficiency of Oxford residents that allows such outrageous conduct to transpire.
 

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Do you not follow MSU sports? The most popular player in the history of our school was kicked out of the line to get into our shittiest bar recently, and the next day that bar tweeted that he was a thug.

I remember that. Makes me wonder if you're doing it wrong...or we're doing it wrong.

I could make arguments for both.

But yes, I've heard from some students that Denzel thinks he's God's gift. Robert has his own issues too, but from what I've heard, Denzel's influence makes him worse. I'm assuming that it didn't help that he blew up on the field during the same season when his brother was the No. 1 recruit in every publication.

Whoever from Coach34's gang poked the bear to get Denzel into a cussing rage at the beach at Spring Break must have had a clue about his personality, because he's easily riled. That was low-hanging fruit to go after him, and by doing that, it means more PT for Bird Bryant.

Both Nkemdiche boys can flat out play if they want to go about it the right way. Denzel doesn't have an NFL future, because he would have to play corner at his size in the NFL these days most likely, and he's not that kind of athlete, but he's certainly a play-maker when healthy and focused.
 

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You're kidding, right? How long have you been a student? That happens with all of the football players. ALL of them. That's been going on for as long as I can remember.
 

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Do you not follow MSU sports? The most popular player in the history of our school was kicked out of the line to get into our shittiest bar recently, and the next day that bar tweeted that he was a thug.

He didn't ask about the intelligence of your fans.
 

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Isn't that a recruiting violation? Should you let Freezus know?

Edit: NCAA, not recruiting.
 

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Would you be against allowing a popular MSU player to cut to the front of the line at a Starkville bar?

No, but the typical popular MSU player is a good person who splits his time off the field and out of the weight room between class, church, and volunterring for the less fortunate whereas the typical popular UM player is a classless thug that spits there off field time between drugs, battery, and sexual assaults.
 

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He's 2nd team Ole Miss, though most of that is attitude related, but I don't get 2nd team All-SEC when you're 2nd team on your own team's depth chart.

I have heard rumors that even Robert says that Denzel is a bad influence for him. That's just good rumor though.

He did play most of last year injured and/or missed games. Plus, I think he spent some time in the coaches' dog house, so that impacts his stats. If he has his mind right, he can be an exceptional player. The numbers he put up as a redshirt freshman were stat-book filling. He was all over everywhere, intercepting passes, forcing fumbles, getting tackles, you name it.

I wouldn't have voted him All-SEC though based on the assumption that he's going to get his mind right, because that's no guarantee, and he's going into the season playing behind Bird Bryant, who has proven to be quite a player himself.

You would figure a pot smoker would be more laid back.
 

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Yeah, that's kind of my point. When Dixon wasn't allowed to cut to the front of the line, almost everyone here was outraged and ready to boycott Cowbells for daring to treat him that way. But Dental Dawg's acting like there's some moral deficiency of Oxford residents that allows such outrageous conduct to transpire.

The only player I ever saw get special treatment like what you're talking about was Quay, and aside from that working out wonderfully, I remember a large portion of the chatterboxes there that night being pissed at him for acting pompous.

To be completely fair, Starkville doesn't have the type of bar scene Oxford has. 90% of our bars don't have covers or promote a "club" scene. You have to join a fraternity and go to swaps and things to achieve that type of nightlife. I'm sure if there were a Lyric and Rooster's and blah blah blah in a strip in town we'd have the same type of issues... But even then I still can't see many of our starters the last couple of seasons demanding entry into the VIP section of places. They'd get heckled out of town by older guys. Maybe that's the issue here. No one is there to beat the **** out of Denzel because he's been top dog since he started his first game.
 

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While we are on the subject of the Nkemdeche's ...

I have heard rumors that even Robert says that Denzel is a bad influence for him. That's just good rumor though.

How is the lawsuit progressing?

CL OM beat writer, Kellenberger, has been too busy dissing the State QB in print and apparently just can't find the time to give out an update.**
 

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I'm just not sure what point you're trying to make. I was simply attempting to illustrate that when your beloved Booby was denied entry into Cowbells, the consensus here was that Cowbells was stupid and should've allowed him to jump to the front of the line, which apparently is exactly what a bar in Oxford did for Denzel, much to the consternation of Dental Dawg, apparently.

But I'm sure you're correct that MSU's humble, salt-of-the-earth players would never patronize a bar, much less engage in criminal behavior such as trying to cut to the front of the line. And if an MSU player DID have the audacity to do such a thing, he would totally get his *** kicked by the older players, I think is your point there at the end. (And I don't really know about this VIP section business. I wasn't aware we had such places.)
 

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You would figure a pot smoker would be more laid back.

Pot? He hung out with Marshall Henderson. I would assume white girl is more of his drug of choice...at least that's what I've heard.

Honestly, Denzel is likely destined to just be a member of Robert's posse. He'll be the one that all Robert's future coaches in the NFL hate, because he'll always be distracting Robert and getting him into trouble.

I just hope as a fan that he gets his act together well enough to be awesome for a couple years. Then he can get on with acting a fool all he wants.
 

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I'm just not sure what point you're trying to make. I was simply attempting to illustrate that when your beloved Booby was denied entry into Cowbells, the consensus here was that Cowbells was stupid and should've allowed him to jump to the front of the line, which apparently is exactly what a bar in Oxford did for Denzel, much to the consternation of Dental Dawg, apparently.

But I'm sure you're correct that MSU's humble, salt-of-the-earth players would never patronize a bar, much less engage in criminal behavior such as trying to cut to the front of the line. And if an MSU player DID have the audacity to do such a thing, he would totally get his *** kicked by the older players, I think is your point there at the end. (And I don't really know about this VIP section business. I wasn't aware we had such places.)

Booby is a professional athlete. If Run DMC got into a twitter fight with any local business y'all would boycott that too.

And when Booby was being a little **** BEFORE he started getting paid to play a game, he had to shave his head, lose 30 pounds, and sit out a game to win back everyone's good graces.

My point isn't that MSU is salt-of-the-earth and Ole Miss isn't, it's that there's zero accountability anywhere so people who were given the keys to the kingdom in exchange for his brother's signature are going to do whatever the 17 they want and it's a downward spiral.

I think Denzel is an exceptional talent and by all means could be a starting linebacker in the NFL one day... But he won't if nothing changes.

As far as our players clubbing, you can't have it both ways. Oxford can't be the best college town and not have shenanigans while Starkville sucks but somehow they party just as hard as Ole Miss players. Pick your poison. When you recruit players by having them get on stage while everyone chants their names, you get that.

ETA: I was never able to be at every bar at the same time, so excuse me if I never remember seeing a blatant walk to the front of the line, and I'm sorry if my hyperbole about the velvet roped off section in the back of Bin 612 was missed on you. I'm 1000% confident that type of **** happens at MSU, but I can't remember during my stay at State a specific player who had a problem doing it. This thing comes up every couple of years with y'all. Are you denying that? And are you going to tell me it has nothing to do with the lack of maturity from the top down?

EETA: Stansbury's players were out every ******* day and night and when I was a freshman (because that's the only time people go to Rick's) I used to watch all those guys go straight to the front every time I ever went to Rick's. It's the same damn thing. We had NBA talent almost everywhere but it was a train wreck.
 
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Again, Dixon is a professional athlete, and somewhat of a celebrity to a lot of State fans. Denzel is still a college player who has not proven anything just yet. When or if he makes it to the NFL, then I don't think anyone would have a problem. Just like if Eli showed up in oxford, I would expect any bar to let him in as soon as he arrived.
 

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Pot? He hung out with Marshall Henderson. I would assume white girl is more of his drug of choice...at least that's what I've heard.

Honestly, Denzel is likely destined to just be a member of Robert's posse. He'll be the one that all Robert's future coaches in the NFL hate, because he'll always be distracting Robert and getting him into trouble.

I just hope as a fan that he gets his act together well enough to be awesome for a couple years. Then he can get on with acting a fool all he wants.

Henderson was a pot smoking thug.
 
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No, but the typical popular MSU player is a good person who splits his time off the field and out of the weight room between class, church, and volunterring for the less fortunate whereas the typical popular UM player is a classless thug that spits there off field time between drugs, battery, and sexual assaults.

The sad thing is I'm convinced you actually believe this.
 

RebelAlumnus

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So, Denzel shouldn't be able to just walk in, but it's cool if the rest of the team does it? Because all of them do it. And only little bitches give a single ****.
 

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And prostitute-daughters of alumni. Please don't forget the prostitute-daughters of alumni.

thank you, that was a pretty boneheaded omission on my part. We all know the only two types of UM players are (1) players who have sexually assaulted somebody and (2) players who would have sexually assaulted someone if it were not the constant supply of prostitute-daughters of alumni between them and the nearest non-consenting female.
 

Shamoan

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that is a very liberal definition of popular especially considering this past season. more like infamous, but your point still stands. had it been a msu long snapper, i still probably would just wear it and take it for the team.