Somebody tell me if I have this right....

[DowntownDawg]

1) OM commitments get mythical bumps in star rankings when rankings were finalized recently.
2) State sheep bleat ferociously, complain about Yancy's influence.
3) Scout admin comes to State board to calm bleating
4) State people ask why Yancy is the "Recruiting Director for Mississippi" and Steve is not
5) Scout admin says that they are both "Scouts" and that Yancy basically made up the title.
6) Yancy removes the title
7) Sheep are content

Is that about right? I am not sure what is more pathetic. I think it's a tie between Yancy making up a Dwight Shrute-esque title and the State sheep crying about star rankings.

 

[DowntownDawg]

1) OM commitments get mythical bumps in star rankings when rankings were finalized recently.
2) State sheep bleat ferociously, complain about Yancy's influence.
3) Scout admin comes to State board to calm bleating
4) State people ask why Yancy is the "Recruiting Director for Mississippi" and Steve is not
5) Scout admin says that they are both "Scouts" and that Yancy basically made up the title.
6) Yancy removes the title
7) Sheep are content

Is that about right? I am not sure what is more pathetic. I think it's a tie between Yancy making up a Dwight Shrute-esque title and the State sheep crying about star rankings.

 

[patdog]

My vote for douchiest goes to Yancy though. Seriously, you made up a title for yourself? At least there at least appeared to be some basis for the MSU sheep's complaints based on Yancy's fictitious title.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...as pathetic as the whole process is, that really takes the cake.

 

[biguglyjoe]

Signed,
The Director of BadAssery

 

[DirtyLopez]

would you rather have pissed at you? State people or Hotties and Toddys? The State sheep will just moan and groan. The rebels will probably sue if their recruits aren't graded to their satisfaction. Then, one of their journalism grads will go off and make up their own independent recruiting service and declare the rebs national champions of recruiting everyother year and Scout will lose all of their subscribers.

 

[markymark.sixpack]

scout "higher-ups" basically agreed to give MSU's commits some bumps in star ratings later this week to appease the GPers. Yeah, so all you "star watchers", that should tell you what those stars are worth.

 

[mstatefan16]

I love to see us sign great prospects as much as the next person, but in the long run it might help out more than we think. It could be a factor in a potential recruits decision ever so slightly. <div>
</div><div>Prospects want a cast around them that can perform, and they might not know how good some LB from Alabama is so where do they go first..... star ratings.</div><div>
</div><div>Stars are big to these guys </div>

 

[Columbus Dawg]

Ole Miss had 4 two star players get bumped up to 3 stars one day before team rankings were released. I believe the OM site is one of the largest in the network.

Of course Scott Kennedy is in charge of this whole circus and he gave a Juco WR 4 stars last year after watching him catch 6 passes in one game. The kidended up with 14 catches all year and didn't receive any D1 offers.

 

[Dollabillz]

Get ready, you will be called a sheep for acknowledging this. It happens every year for Ole Miss. Robertson usually lobbies for one or two guys to get an extra star as well. The whole state of MS sort of gets the shaft, because they don't thoroughly rate the guys outside the top 5 or in very deep years, 10.

 

[jackstefano]

It's not that he's a sheep. Based on his posting history, he's clearly not. But there is a fundamental lack of understanding in his post. Those 2 star players who were bumped to 3 stars had not previously been evaluated. Posters had been asking for weeks when some of these kids would be evaluated, and they finally were. It happens every year this way so I'm not sure of why it's such a big deal this year. Except that there appears to be an exceptional number of bat **** crazies out this year.

 

[rugbdawg]

on his team, can't recall his name, that was much, much better and big programs were recruiting but Scott had him ranked lower.

 

[Dollabillz]

These out of state guys that Ole Miss is signing, how come nobody else but Ole Miss writers know who the hell they are? And why does the very few they do get that are legit, have some type of issues and never make it to school?

I hadn't even followed recruiting this year, but I always get sucked back in.

 

[DowntownDawg]

....but I thought 1 star meant you hadn't been evaluated, 2 stars meant that you had and you were basically at the low end of the spectrum.

 

[jackstefano]

These out of state guys that Ole Miss is signing, how come nobody else but Ole Miss writers know who the hell they are? And why does the very few they do get that are legit, have some type of issues and never make it to school?

I hadn't even followed recruiting this year, but I always get sucked back in.

Give me some examples.

 

[Dollabillz]

there's a new rating system out now, called the Ole Miss system. It says if you have a BCS offer (because there's so much difference in say, BCS Baylor and non-BCS Houston), you automatically get 2 stars.

More going on here than just normal recruiting banter.

 

[Dollabillz]

nm</p>

 

[Dollabillz]

- Everybody on your 2011 list save Chief Brown and Gerard Hollimon. Hollimon has grade problems and wasn't offered by the big 3 of Florida. Still had no clue who he was.
- Delvin Jones, grade problems, looks to not get in school.
- Ton of out of state jokers on that 2010 list too I'm never heard of, but supposedly were offered by many.
- Same with '09. Korvic Neat? Sawyer? Who the hell are these guys?

It's only been this way during Nutt. If you want to say you took other states leftovers, that's fine. But let's not kid ourselves and act like Nutt is filling your roster with elite SEC talent, because he's not.

 

[SnakePlissken]

end of everyone's wishlist and the low end of the player pool. Those 2 star playas that got bumped were bumped because of a "re-evaluation" by someone within Scout. Most probably at the urging of a certain site admin.

 

[GroveHard]

That's ridiculous.

 

[Interpol]

You're a @!!#%!@ State fan, dumbass.

That should indicate that you don't follow Ole Miss recruiting carefully enough to know about some of our lesser-known signees.

Should.

 

[rebville]

Jeebus, sometimes it seems as if we are migrating dangerously close to eggbowl.com or gp.com status here. Does your stance on recruiting hold water for state recruits?

 

[jackstefano]

Well now I'm confused as hell. You initially said that no one but OM writers know who these guys are. Go to the Scout site and look at the articles for each one. They are numerous and from different school's reporters.

As for Delvin Jones, who knows what will happen. I doubt he makes it but it's anyone's guess. The assumption on signing day was that he wouldn't make it. Sawyer and Neat both had offers from all over the country. Mike Marry had 30 offers. And I've never said that Nutt is filling the roster with elite SEC talent, although he's certainly signed a number of guys from out of state who look to be pretty good and have already contributed.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...to hear OM & MSU fan tell it, you would think assigning stars to recruits is the final obstacle to overcome, then you are set to win a conference or national championship.


I don't care how many stars an Ole Miss or MSU player has, that player (or players) will never possess the high level talent to win championships.


I think I can say this with an abundance of anecdotal evidence to back up my claim.


A 4 star player @ OM or MSU is not like a 4 star player @ Bama.


The 4 star player @ Bama is instantly subjected to better coaching & a richer football tradition.


Plus the 4 star player @ Bama has to beat out 5 star players in order to start. At OM or MSU, all a 4 star recruit has to do to start is to tell the media that "Mullen/Nutt is like a father figure to me."


This star rating dust up between OM & MSU is like watching midgets wrestle. Meaning no matter which midget wins, the winning midget is still not going to out wrestle a 6 foot tall , 200 lb wrestler.

 

[jackstefano]

Scout.com's National Director of Scouting said that the players had not been evaluated prior to their new ranking.

 

[State82]

What Ronnie said, times 10.

 

[Dollabillz]

nm

 

[Dollabillz]

Ole Miss has one of the biggest subscription bases on Scout. He doesn't want to upset you, and I don't blame him.

But you see, they had been rated. Rated 2 stars. But you and the rest of the moron sheep bought that line about BCS offers, as ridiculous as it sounds.

 

[jackstefano]

It was in response to a question about why it was taking so long to get the kids evaluated. The quote is below:

"it's about the timing. they weren't ranked going into june, and june is an evaluation period of sorts for the Scouts. Lots of camps, combines, etc... You may call it "ridiculously long" but only one of those players committed before June. the latest ranking update gets done tonight, and it includes the expansion of rankings from the managers."

 

[jackstefano]

He does about as well as the others I've seen with his predictions, which isn't saying much.

 

[formtackler.sixpack]

1 star means you have not been evaluated
2 stars is given to anyone with a BCS offer who has not been evaluated
2 stars can also be an official evaluation.

 

[patdog]

We are actually arguing about the recruiting rankings of a worthless website. The scary thing is, these are generally some of the more reasonable MSU and UM fans. Real football can't get here soon enough.</p>

 

[LewisNixon]

asdf.

 

[RebelBruiser]

- Everybody on your 2011 list save Chief Brown and Gerard Hollimon. Hollimon has grade problems and wasn't offered by the big 3 of Florida. Still had no clue who he was.
- Delvin Jones, grade problems, looks to not get in school.
- Ton of out of state jokers on that 2010 list too I'm never heard of, but supposedly were offered by many.
- Same with '09. Korvic Neat? Sawyer? Who the hell are these guys?

It's only been this way during Nutt. If you want to say you took other states leftovers, that's fine. But let's not kid ourselves and act like Nutt is filling your roster with elite SEC talent, because he's not.

So all we take out of state are leftovers? Is that better than taking a bunch of in-state leftovers like Mullen did last class?

On your comments, there is a decent chance Delvin Jones will be on campus next month.

You'll see Neat and Sawyer a good bit this fall, so then you can pass judgement on whether they were good signees. Just to name a couple other out of state 'jokers' that you probably hadn't heard of before, we beat out UT for DT Shackelford. He's a pretty good player. We beat out Auburn for Joel Kight. He's a pretty good player. We beat out Arkansas for Jesse Grandy, another pretty good player. Rodney Scott wasn't too bad as a true freshman either. Tim Simon was doing well before his injury, another out of stater. Most of our 2009 class redshirted, so you'll see more of them this year, so this fall will be the first time you'll see them. The guys you saw last year were pretty good though. Guys like Mike Marry, Corey Gaines, Frank Crawford, Ja-Mes Logan, Neat, and Sawyer will get their first crack in a few months.

You know that in the state of Florida, there is a load of talent that the Big 3 schools can't sign, right? The same can be said for some other states as well. Great players come out of Florida every year without an offer from FSU, Miami, or Florida. In fact, I'd say there are probably more BCS-caliber players in Florida that don't get a Big 3 offer than there are BCS-caliber players in Mississippi period most years.

And why should we expect you to know our out of state recruits? Mullen doesn't recruit much out of state, and he doesn't recruit the same areas out of state that we do when he does go out of state, so why would you know much about our signees? In 2009, we tied Michigan for the program outside of the Big 3 to sign the most Top 100 players in Florida. They all had other major programs coming after them. I'm sure you didn't know any of them, since Mullen doesn't recruit Florida for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean they weren't heavily recruited by other schools. We have a heavy emphasis on Florida. Mullen has zero emphasis on Florida. So I'd get used to the idea of not knowing much about who our out of state recruits are.

 

[KurtRambis4]

unbelievable that people get worked up this much over this big of a joke.</p>