Could you help me understand our chances at getting some of these really good guys from Mississippi, or just some of these highly rated recruts in general for the 2011 class? I know Stansbury is a good recruiter, but I haven't heard much about these guys being interested in State.
Somebody who knows about our basketball recruiting.
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Could you help me understand our chances at getting some of these really good guys from Mississippi, or just some of these highly rated recruts in general for the 2011 class? I know Stansbury is a good recruiter, but I haven't heard much about these guys being interested in State.
OBryant (5 star from Cleveland, MS)- Pretty decent chance. I know we are going hard after him. He has offers from basically every big program in the nation. I'd say 50% chance at him.
Hood (4 star from Meridian, MS)- Dad played hoops at MSU. It's a Florida/Wake/MSU battle from what I've heard. I'd say 70% of Hood if we press him hard. For some reason, I don't think he's as high up on our board as many would think. I still think MSU gets him because of the MSU connection. Also, Osby is from Meridian, but NE Lauderdale HS. They probably know each other and I don't like the fact that Osby isn't getting enough minutes. For some reason, I see Osby's situation hurting our chances with Hood with the Meridian connection.
Deville Smith (3-4 star from Jackson, MS)- This guy put up 38 at Rupp against Oak Hill Academy with Calipari watching. He will have offers from big time programs. I know that we want him to be our PG after Bost. I've also heard that Smith is our number 1 guard prospect, without a doubt. 50% on "The Truth".
Tyler Adams (3-4 star from Brandon, MS)- MSU lean. I've heard from people close to our program that they feel that Adams has a higher ceiling than OBryant. Has offers from major programs. I'd put MSU's chances at 90% for Adams.
LaQuinton Ross (5 star from Murrah, Jackson, MS)- Grades. Prep school for a year and re-evaluate our situation. He's another Renardo Sidney/Walter Sharpe/ Ben Hansbrough/ etc wrapped all into one. I don't give a damn about him.
The top 3 players on our board, from what I've heard, are OBryant, Deville Smith and Tyler Adams. Hood would be fourth.
Hood (4 star from Meridian, MS)- Dad played hoops at MSU. It's a Florida/Wake/MSU battle from what I've heard. I'd say 70% of Hood if we press him hard. For some reason, I don't think he's as high up on our board as many would think. I still think MSU gets him because of the MSU connection. Also, Osby is from Meridian, but NE Lauderdale HS. They probably know each other and I don't like the fact that Osby isn't getting enough minutes. For some reason, I see Osby's situation hurting our chances with Hood with the Meridian connection.
Deville Smith (3-4 star from Jackson, MS)- This guy put up 38 at Rupp against Oak Hill Academy with Calipari watching. He will have offers from big time programs. I know that we want him to be our PG after Bost. I've also heard that Smith is our number 1 guard prospect, without a doubt. 50% on "The Truth".
Tyler Adams (3-4 star from Brandon, MS)- MSU lean. I've heard from people close to our program that they feel that Adams has a higher ceiling than OBryant. Has offers from major programs. I'd put MSU's chances at 90% for Adams.
LaQuinton Ross (5 star from Murrah, Jackson, MS)- Grades. Prep school for a year and re-evaluate our situation. He's another Renardo Sidney/Walter Sharpe/ Ben Hansbrough/ etc wrapped all into one. I don't give a damn about him.
The top 3 players on our board, from what I've heard, are OBryant, Deville Smith and Tyler Adams. Hood would be fourth.
JacksonDevilDog said:
So you have at least a 50% chance of getting all of them except Ross? Ok. State thinking they are a national player is like Ole Miss fans thinking we are. We are both players in the SEC, and that is about it.
That sounds like some Yancy or Rosebowl ****.
difference is stans has proven to get the top guys from ms, over and over and over. to say we have no shot at these kids is a joke. this isn't ole miss.
I didn't say State had no shot. Of course you have a shot. But, so does Ole Miss. On everyone except Adams, that is. That doesn't mean that either are going to get them.KurtRambis4 said:
My point wasn't that neither school has a shot, but to call either school a better than 50% chance on ALL of them is crazy.
And to whomever compared Adams to O'Bryant, you obviously haven't seen them play. Adams to Bryant is like Riek to Varnado. It isn't even close. Hell, Im not sure Adams is a legitimate SEC type player.
06- Jajuan Brown only 4 star playerjcdawgman18 said:
07...Ravern and Malcolm White were the only two 4 star players.
08--Rashanti Harris, Latavious Williams, and Osby. 1 5 star, and two 4 stars. You got one of the three.
09--no 4 star rated players.
10-- no 4 star rated players.
So in the last 5 years, there have been six, and you have gotten two. These are using Rivals rankings, but to say you own MS with highly rated players simply isn't true.
One, there isn't that many highly rated players to come from MS most years. Two, half don't qualify. Last, they tend to go out of state just as much as staying here.
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Until Stans gets beat in Mississippi, I'm pretty confident on these kids. I think State can sign Smith, Hood and Adams. Obryant is a wildcard. MSU has historically done well in Mississippi and they have known about some of these guys when Rod Barnes was on the UM sideline.
LeAntwan Luckett - 4 star guard from Ridgeland
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, and LSU
Mychal Ammons - 4 star forward from Vicksburg
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU, and that's it
David Gardner - 3 star guard from Okolona
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU and Ole Miss
Brian Bryant will replace Randy's scholly next year, but Ravern, Riley, Kodi, and Phil will all be leaving after next year, and Sidney certainly won't be around for year 3, so we'll have room to bring in at least 5 guys in the class of 2011.
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, and LSU
Mychal Ammons - 4 star forward from Vicksburg
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU, and that's it
David Gardner - 3 star guard from Okolona
Rivals lists medium interest in MSU and Ole Miss
Brian Bryant will replace Randy's scholly next year, but Ravern, Riley, Kodi, and Phil will all be leaving after next year, and Sidney certainly won't be around for year 3, so we'll have room to bring in at least 5 guys in the class of 2011.
Stans mentioned these guys a couple of months ago at the Starkville QB club. He stated that we have a great shot at most of them. He didn't mentioned names, which of course, he isn't allowed to do. But, he said that this years' recruiting class would be small (1) to set up for the 2011 class. His exact words were " we've been on these guys a long time and someone else is going to have to come in a take them from us if we don't get them". I feel very confident about his ability in the state. He has proven that he can get just about who he wants from the state of MS. I am unsure which ones specifically he wants, but he is excited about this class and confident that we will land the ones we want.
He very well may land as many as three of them. That being said, he isn't the only one setting up his scholarship allotment for that class. Ole Miss is, as well. \
I don't know how long Ole Miss has been on them, but I know for sure they have known about O'Bryant, Ross, and Smith since they were 7th graders. Im not sure how much longer State could have known about them, but I do know this much is true.
Again, Im not saying he won't get them. What I am saying is that to say you have a better than 50% shot at getting most of them simply isn't true.
I don't know how long Ole Miss has been on them, but I know for sure they have known about O'Bryant, Ross, and Smith since they were 7th graders. Im not sure how much longer State could have known about them, but I do know this much is true.
Again, Im not saying he won't get them. What I am saying is that to say you have a better than 50% shot at getting most of them simply isn't true.
There are a few problems with your argument.independencebowlmainstay said:
1) We didn't want Brown.
2) White was going to come to State, but LT wouldn't let Stans sign him because of his grades.
3) Harris and Williams would never have qualified.
You can call us sheep if you want, but we have at least a fifty percent chance to sign three of the guys in the 2011 class. Adams and Smith are supposedly heavy State leans ( some people think Smith is already a done deal), Hood comes from a State family, and Luckett and Ammons are high on us as well. O'Bryant is th biggest longshot.
Like it or not, Kennedy has yet to beat Stans head to head for any MS recruit that we want. Until that changes there will not be any State fans worried about losing an in-state BB recruit to Ole Miss. And don't bring up Nelson or Cox, because we didn't want either one. Ole Miss isn't going to get Hood, Smith, Ammons, or Adams( and he is an SEC player), and O'Bryant sure as hell is going to play in the Tad Pad in front of 31 people. I think he is the most likely to go out of state.
I think we get Hood from Meridian simply because of his dad, and everyone seems to think Adams is all but ours. I think we get at least one more and probably two. Luckett and Deville Smith are the two I would lean towards . I could see O Bryant going to a Kentucky, Kansas,etc and I think Ole Miss gets a least one .
I agree, Tyler Adams is awful, I saw him play agaisnt Tupelo and he looked primed to be another Marcus Campbell. Absolutely atrocious.
studentdawg87 said:
White was coming to State? Ok. If you say so. </p>
I never said you wanted Brown. The initial post said you get all of the highly regarded players from the state. According to Rivals, he was highly regarded. Im not a star gazer by any means, I was jjust using the same qualifications(stars), that the initial poster used.
I know those kids weren't going to qualify. Again, that wasn't the point. The point was not ALL of the top rated players come to Starkville.
As for Smith, again, the argument began with highly regarded players. If Smith is a highly regarded player, then so are Cox and Nelson. They are as highly rated as him, with offers on the table as good, or better.
Last, I will give you 5:1 odds right now that Ole Miss is a player for O'Bryant. I don't know if State is or not....I have no idea. What I do KNOW is that Ole Miss is. Doesn't mean we get him, but we certainly are a player.
The funny thing is that you guys are talking about the class of 2011 like it is a big deal to get a commitment from those guys, but there is another thread on the front page here laughing about Ole Miss getting a commitment for 2012. Now, IMO, both are ridiculous. These kids change thier minds daily. I worry about the kids that sign. Not the one's that commit. Hell, I just hope we hange on to our 2010 football commitments.</p>
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studentdawg87 said:
White was coming to State? Ok. If you say so. </p>
I never said you wanted Brown. The initial post said you get all of the highly regarded players from the state. According to Rivals, he was highly regarded. Im not a star gazer by any means, I was jjust using the same qualifications(stars), that the initial poster used.
I know those kids weren't going to qualify. Again, that wasn't the point. The point was not ALL of the top rated players come to Starkville.
As for Smith, again, the argument began with highly regarded players. If Smith is a highly regarded player, then so are Cox and Nelson. They are as highly rated as him, with offers on the table as good, or better.
Last, I will give you 5:1 odds right now that Ole Miss is a player for O'Bryant. I don't know if State is or not....I have no idea. What I do KNOW is that Ole Miss is. Doesn't mean we get him, but we certainly are a player.
The funny thing is that you guys are talking about the class of 2011 like it is a big deal to get a commitment from those guys, but there is another thread on the front page here laughing about Ole Miss getting a commitment for 2012. Now, IMO, both are ridiculous. These kids change thier minds daily. I worry about the kids that sign. Not the one's that commit. Hell, I just hope we hange on to our 2010 football commitments.</p>
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Fresno, I agree completely. Right now, he is Memphis' to lose. But two years is a long time, and anything can happen.
O'Bryant and the Harvard thing crack me the hell up.....Johnny, you ain't going to Harvard, bro. I don't imagine you could get in, but your future lies in putting the ball in the basket. Not Astrophysics.
O'Bryant and the Harvard thing crack me the hell up.....Johnny, you ain't going to Harvard, bro. I don't imagine you could get in, but your future lies in putting the ball in the basket. Not Astrophysics.
O'Bryant has since stated that he didn't understand the question asked. Harvard isn't in the top 3, so that was obviously not an accurate list. State is very much a player for him, and he and Adams have both stated numerous times that they'd love to play together. They have a good relationship, and I think landing Adams would seriously improve our already good chances at landing O'Bryant. We'll get Hood and probably Ammons, too, and that leaves Deville Smith. It's pretty tough to think that if we landed these other guys that we couldn't get Smith. Ole Miss can set up their scholarships for that class all they want, but it's a mistake because they're going to have to fill most of the slots with 2- and 3-star players.
smootness said:
Please explain this logic.
Are you just assuming we will sign nothing but the remaining MS players?
Of course, its not like that hurts my feelings, because Warren, Graham, and Holloway were 3 star players. Terrico White was a 2-star with hardly any offers when he committed. He was upgraded to a 4-star later. Polyniece was a 1-star.
I'm not worried at all about Andy Kennedy's recruiting. I'm worried shitless about his ability to motivate his players properly as a coach (instead of being their "friends") as well as his ability to coach defense.